why drop hints? say it directly to the one you are talking about.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Take a look at what skyline63 posted on 14/4 and 15/4. From "all sg girls no more spring chicken", "Sporeman go vietnam bride", "SDU, is it effective", "SG girls a challenge to lovers", to "Discrimination against man", he left posts condemning all sg girls. Sounds like a young man had just been rejected. Most forumites here know who has gone berserk but interesting some can take a ride on his posts.
I think we shd FORGIVE, But we must never FORGET!! Why we shd not forget is simple,we must remind ourself to be prepared if any think similar were to happen.Learn from HistoryOriginally posted by skyline63:Japan is a place where earthquake, and someday they will sink down to the bottem of the sea. With lot of land but lot of it is wasteland ! Loose soil.
They now are trying to make a come back. First to be friendly with Singapore !
Then they are trying to start a war again !
DOWN THE JAPANESE ! REMEMBER HOW THEY RAPE THE WOMAN ! KILL YOUR PEOPLE ! CHOP CHILDREN INTO HALF ! THROW BABY INTO THE SKY AND CUT THEM DOWN ONE BY ONE. SHOOTING AT CHANGI BENCH 50,000 OF THEM DIED JUST THAT LIKE !
HOW CAN YOU FORGIVE AND FORGET WHAT IS DONE ?
there's no protest in KLOriginally posted by skyline63:Then you continue to be Japanese lover loh. Just because they give you some AV stars, Cartoons. And show. You love them so much they you forget they kill your grandfather.
In Malaysia. Japanese go to some village better don't open their mouth. Some of the family members have been murder by the Japanese. Grandmother rape by the Japanese !
Originally posted by sgdiehard:Take a look at what skyline63 posted on 14/4 and 15/4. From "all sg girls no more spring chicken", "Sporeman go vietnam bride", "SDU, is it effective", "SG girls a challenge to lovers", to "Discrimination against man", he left posts condemning all sg girls. Sounds like a young man had just been rejected. Most forumites here know who has gone berserk but interesting some can take a ride on his posts.
Looking at all the protests around the world, there are to be some violence involved. I hope u know that in Japan itself, ethnic Chinese and Korean and their properties are frequently subjected to unprovoked death threats and attacks from Japanese nationalists. Look at these two articles:Originally posted by LazerLordz:See who's the real villain here? It's the Chinese protestors who hurt the Japanese.It's fine to protest, but when you strike a blow, you have crossed the line.
newspaper always report what they think people wants to read. that is how they improve circulation. it cannot be fully trusted.Originally posted by Blueray:Looking at all the protests around the world, there are to be some violence involved. I hope u know that in Japan itself, ethnic Chinese and Korean and their properties are frequently subjected to unprovoked death threats and attacks from Japanese nationalists. Look at these two articles:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-04/23/content_325864.htm
http://210.145.168.243/pk/066th_issue/98102107.htm
Looking at the above two articles really show how dangerous Japanese nationalists are... What have the japanese government been teaching their younger generations anyway? Why do they have so much hatred towards Chinese and Koreans when China and Korea have never done anything ill towards Japan?
Newspaper choose what they want to report and readers read only what they want to read for their own reason. Nobody can be trusted.Originally posted by dragg:newspaper always report what they think people wants to read. that is how they improve circulation. it cannot be fully trusted.
i am sure that in chinese, korea as well as japan there are people who can't wait to stir the pot of shit. people do it for different reasons. it is like a domino effect, one thing leads to another.
dont contradict for the sake of contradictingOriginally posted by sgdiehard:Newspaper choose what they want to report and readers read only what they want to read for their own reason. Nobody can be trusted.
+1000Originally posted by alexkusu:isnt Skyline a japanese car model? lame loser~
Aggression of the mind and aggression of the physical.What is your side.Originally posted by robertteh:Japanese is very persistent in :
(1) claiming islands that belong to Koreas and China
(2) Re-writing their war crimes and atrocities in school textbooks,
After starting these two aggressive incidents, now peoples in these countries are not happy and taking to the streets. What is wrong with this protests. But instead of behaving civilly, the Japs continue to pursue aggressions by demanding apologies from the respective governments.
Forumers, just consider these acts in perspective and objectively, is the Japanese aggressive and trying to start war. Do we have to wait till they start a war again in the name of their emperor before knowing the fact. Think!!! If there is any gentlemen or thinking power in us, our next action will be to boycott their products e.g. stop buying Japanese cars or electronics. After all government may dislike anyone going to the street![]()
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The Japanese invasion of China was not prompted by defence of its nation against any aggressors but solely by the aggressive in-born nature of its people.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Aggression of the mind and aggression of the physical.What is your side.
are you saying that you experienced that?Originally posted by baderange:Why is it that the pm must visit the shrine of those war criminals? Why do they leave out mention of the atrocities committed in the past? Yes, the present generation cannot be blamed for the crimes of their forefathers BUT they cannot sweep aside the fact of their forefathers' inhumanity their depravity!
IF one day this happens again, say your wife kena raped in front of yr children or your father have his head chopped off, will you, in 60 years time, not be angry if they try to hide this fact? Well if you say you don't mind, than I say Hope this happens to you!![]()
you are writing like a military analyst. do you think that after having gone through so many wars (including the pearl harbour attack) the americans will be so stupid to allow japan to re-arm and start imperialism all over again? it is exactly your bias against the japanese that you see everything as a conspiracy.Originally posted by robertteh:The Japanese invasion of China was not prompted by defence of its nation against any aggressors but solely by the aggressive in-born nature of its people.
Their ambitions to invade other countries were carried out with systematic planning to encourage its people to be aggressors and conquorers.
History provided sufficient evidence of their aggressions. First, they started a long term preparation whereby students were systematically taught in schools to desire China's ShanTong Pears. The students were asked : Do you want Shanton pears. Psychologically, the whole generation were prepared to start a war ending with their fated invasion of China in WW II.
If one is to observe what has happened recently, their leaders' visiting of the war hero's shrine was not a chance occurrence. Re-writing of the textbook is a confirmation of the same nationalism to revive their military power.
Their active participation as an ally of US in the Iraq war is not an incidental act as well. This time, the Japanese will use both their economic power and with the help of US its military power to rule the world. The grand design of neo-Japanese Imperialism is unveiling...
All these moves are made subtly but steadily carried out. Let the US beware that the Japanese is on the war path slowly planning out the whole revival with their unwitting assistance and encouragement. Lately encouraged by US who needed Japan as partner in tackling terrorism, it is beginning to flex its military with more physical aggression.
If one is to care the Japanese actions in claiming islands in the China Sea, one will see more evidence of more deliberate attempt to use the war heros as rallying point to revive their past military aggressions.
This aggressive minds among their leaders are unspoken. Minds have now sharp and focused to manipulate their population in the Koitsumi era to shed their post war restraints. It is the unspoken minds of their leaders now that one can find all the future aggression and imperialism.![]()
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What the Americans are or are not thinking is speculative. What the Japanese mind is like is clearly seen in their acts as posted. To the Asian peoples who had suffered from Japanese war and atrocities, they just have to stay alert. If Japanese is so benign and peaceful, these recent acts would not have taken place. Or are these acts my imagination. I am surprised at your naivety. It is such naivety according to Rummerl's Law that people are slaughtered and murdered.Originally posted by dragg:you are writing like a military analyst. do you think that after having gone through so many wars (including the pearl harbour attack) the americans will be so stupid to allow japan to re-arm and start imperialism all over again? it is exactly your bias against the japanese that you see everything as a conspiracy.
i am surprise at your imagination tooOriginally posted by robertteh:What the Americans are or are not thinking is speculative. What the Japanese mind is like is clearly seen in their acts as posted. To the Asian peoples who had suffered from Japanese war and atrocities, they just have to stay alert. If Japanese is so benign and peaceful, these recent acts would not have taken place. Or are these acts my imagination. I am surprised at your naivety. It is such naivety according to Rummerl's Law that people are slaughtered and murdered.![]()
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I will have to leave it to your imagination of my imagination.Originally posted by dragg:i am surprise at your imagination too
if everybody thinks like you we will have a cold war in asia.
nobody is giving special assistance to defend the japanese. what is your purpose of posting here if non-japanese cannot say things that contradict your views? you might as well post in a japanese forum so they can defend themselves. you are a paranoid and a rumourmonger. i am surprised you can give an objective view when your postings are all so bias. we should instead have to make sure that we do not have people who try to stir the s h i t pot and create unnecessary problems.Originally posted by robertteh:I will have to leave it to your imagination of my imagination.
Japanese people are not like you think so peaceful and full of manners.
what did the japanese do to you that we dont know about?![]()
I don't know the actual closer or personal reasons or circumstances for your pro-Japanese stand.
i have no japanese interest or any relations to the japanese. what i have said is also not pro-japanese. so do i have to agree with you so that i wont be branded 'pro-japanese'? so do everyone who disagree with your stand is branded 'pro-japanese' too. come up with a better argument.
But I will not ask further as you may say what you like too.
what kind of statement is that!!? i thought only kids say such a thing. are you not also saying what you like? or am i suppose to say what you like instead?
Singaporeans have to understand what is going on in Japan and how it affects our national survival. Japanese people are very united inside. If you work in their companies you will see that unlike other foreign companies, Singaporeans will not be able to get promotion over their key men or women. That is another fact about Japanese. So it is not my imagination but fact that they are nationalistic and full of ambitions to expand or take over others.
this i fully agree. but what has this got to do with our national survival?
We need them for certain economic or material benefits and some of us might be married to their people or working in their companies here in Singapore. But whatever the actual stands or reasons for saying pro-Japanese things, all will have to take political views as well and be matured.
this has nothing to do with maturity.
We cannot let our self-preservation or survival instinct as Singaporeans go down as well. In a crunch the Japanese people for whom you are speaking may drop all pretences against us because we are a majority-Chinese country. All of us may become their target even if some of us may praise or speak for them because of associations or economic interests.
In order that we will be easily taken over or controlled by them due to their in-born aggressive instincts, I am giving an objective view to explain to all to be more aware. It is not my imagination. Surely the Japanese can defend their stand and do not need your special assistance to do so for them. We have to make sure too that no Singaporean work from within to defend them should the situation get worse one day ?![]()
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I agree with your objective view !!! I am only trying to balance someone's ove-anxious defending of any views against Japanese's recent spats with its neighbouring countries but now I am being accused of stirring up things. Who was so anxious and put in the most views to fend off criticisms on Japanese recent aggressions every body should be able to see.Originally posted by LazerLordz:The only thing people here are trying to do is to offer a balanced counter-argument.No country's viewpoints are totally perfect.