GOOD got guts ! China never say "SORRY" TO THE JAP !
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Japan foreign minister leaves China after failing to get apology
Japanese Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura ended a two-day visit to China during which he failed to get an apology for widespread anti-Japanese protests.
"Japanese Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura concluded his visit to China and left here Tuesday morning," the Xinhua news agency reported.
China said Monday its ties with Japan were at a 30-year low and repeated it would not apologise for the series of protests after a second day of talks between Machimura and Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing.
Li had told Machimura that China hoped Japan would take "concrete actions" to face up to its history of aggression in China to improve bilateral relations.
Machimura retorted by expressing "deep regret" over the rallies, which caused damage to Japanese diplomatic missions, restaurants and businesses in major Chinese cities.
Ties between East Asia's two most powerful nations have rapidly approached a nadir after Japan approved a nationalist textbook that glossed over wartime atrocities.
They have been further ruffled by Japan's bid for a permanent seat on the UN Security Council.
Amid the tension a Japanese court Tuesday rejected a compensation lawsuit filed by 10 Chinese survivors of Japanese atrocities including the 1937 Nanjing massacre.
The decision by the Tokyo High Court is consistent with repeated rulings in Japan, which says any compensation for World War II crimes is a bilateral issue between countries rather than a case an individual can bring before the courts.
The Tokyo High Court refused to hear an appeal by the women, whose case had already been dismissed by a district court. They can still go to the Supreme Court.
Plaintiffs left the courtroom holding a banner that read, "Unjust verdict."
The plaintiffs had sought 100 million yen (930,000 dollars) for atrocities including the Nanjing massacre, bombings by Japanese forces and the "Unit 731" that performed medical experiments on humans.
Meanwhile Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi on Tuesday defended his visits to a Tokyo war shrine that have infuriated China and called for the two countries to understand each other's views amid a heated row.
Since taking office in 2001, Koizumi has made four pilgrimages to the Yasukuni shrine, which honors 2.5 million Japanese war dead including seven World War II leaders hanged for war crimes.
Asked if his visits to the Shinto sanctuary were a reason for the massive anti-Japanese protests this month in China, Koizumi said: "I don't think so."
"I have been visiting in order to pledge not to have war and to mourn the war dead," Koizumi told reporters.
"Respective countries have respective histories and traditions and have different opinions," Koizumi said. "It is necessary to deepen mutual understanding."
Chinese State Councillor Tang Jiaxuan, a former foreign minister, has said Japanese leaders' visits to the Yasukuni shrine were at the heart of bilateral problems.
Koizumi has visited the shrine annually since taking office, each time prompting protests by China and South Korea, which were victims of Japanese aggression.
Koizumi has not yet gone this year or said clearly if he will. His last pilgrimage was on January 1, 2004. -
Not happy. Don't sell your product to China loh. Go and sell to the rest of the world and see how much profit you lost ! How are you going to deal with the rising unemployment in Japan ! Why not ? It's a good idea. If you Jap want to stop import your product. China can survive for so many years without import market. Who scare you ? JAP ?
Rising star ? SHAME yourself ? KIDDING ME ! IT's HONOR TO HATE JAPANESE ! And a greatest honor in the world.
Trying to change your history books ? Go loh ! Try loh ! War you want also can.
BLOODLY JAP ! CUT your head and chop the babies into half when throwing in the air just like what you did in world war 2 ! And not just it. OPIUM WAR AS WELL !
You are only be a laughing stock of the world when you think what is over is over. And they can change their history books anyhow.
If Japan did not lose. I bet the Malays and INDIANS in Malaysia and Indonesia will be second-class citizen to the Japanese loh ! Are you willing to give your land to the JAPANESE NOW ? Why not right ? Since you love them so much ? What is over is over right ? Give them now loh. -
STFU and cool down.Hothead behavior makes you look worse than the Japs.Originally posted by skyline63:Not happy. Don't sell your product to China loh. Go and sell to the rest of the world and see how much profit you lost ! How are you going to deal with the rising unemployment in Japan ! Why not ? It's a good idea. If you Jap want to stop import your product. China can survive for so many years without import market. Who scare you ? JAP ?
Rising star ? SHAME yourself ? KIDDING ME ! IT's HONOR TO HATE JAPANESE ! And a greatest honor in the world.
Trying to change your history books ? Go loh ! Try loh ! War you want also can.
BLOODLY JAP ! CUT your head and chop the babies into half when throwing in the air just like what you did in world war 2 ! And not just it. OPIUM WAR AS WELL !
You are only be a laughing stock of the world when you think what is over is over. And they can change their history books anyhow.
If Japan did not lose. I bet the Malays and INDIANS in Malaysia and Indonesia will be second-class citizen to the Japanese loh ! Are you willing to give your land to the JAPANESE NOW ? Why not right ? Since you love them so much ? What is over is over right ? Give them now loh. -
China has made her point. Now it is time to calm her population down. Japan will never get a seat in the UN among the permanent five unless China allows her. China has a veto vote she can use anytime.
It is in China's interest to grow stronger economically, militarily and politically, whilst not arousing too much suspicion or fear from the Americans or the Japanese. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, they made the mistake of waking up the sleeping giant. China is the giant that is just arousing from her sleep. It is in her interest to avoid major conflicts before she becomes fully ready to take on the world. -
Then you kneel down to the JAP loh. Since you love them so much !
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Hello, there is really no need for statement like that. Argue on facts and avoid emotional diarrhea, or you loose your credibility of your argument.Originally posted by skyline63:Then you kneel down to the JAP loh. Since you love them so much ! -
Calm down. The last thing we need is anger clouding the current situation. Already, enraged chinese protesters have resorted to physical show of force through stone pelting, material boycotts of Japanese products to make their point. I believe that a blockade of their front gate is a more effective and stronger statement: not only does it convey a picture of self-control despite great dissatisfaction, it also make it even easier to emphasis their points.Originally posted by skyline63:Then you kneel down to the JAP loh. Since you love them so much !
For me, the current status quo should not stay: they have obscured their own World War II history to such an extent that come a decade or two, the young Japanese would look at us in incredulity whenever we mention Japan's unapologetic stand.
We need to assert our rights to a public apology, not only to China and South Korea, but to all the other nations Japan has transgressed during its wartime aggression: to do justice to all the suffering our grandparents (parents to some of us) have suffered, we must demand that the Japanese education ministry rewrite their history books to adhere to facts. This is something I feel isn't hard achieve, and is the right thing to do. After all, History is about facts, not some nationalistic propaganda to whitewash the past. -
People teach their children. World war 2 is a honor. And they should start a new war. And do you think things is the same ?
Educated to the world war 2 ? hahahh!!!!!!!! Singapore LKY talk leh ! They know more Chinese history then LKY who study in ENGLAND ONE LEH !
I tell you Chinese in China hate Singaporean ! And Hate LKY ! Say he is a double head snake. And every Singaporean is that way. That is the way. -
If they choose to hate us, so be it.We are not PRC anyway, and if they think we should behave and think like them, then they are just deluded.Originally posted by skyline63:People teach their children. World war 2 is a honor. And they should start a new war. And do you think things is the same ?
Educated to the world war 2 ? hahahh!!!!!!!! Singapore LKY talk leh ! They know more Chinese history then LKY who study in ENGLAND ONE LEH !
I tell you Chinese in China hate Singaporean ! And Hate LKY ! Say he is a double head snake. And every Singaporean is that way. That is the way.
I can sympathise with their anti-Japanese protests but to assume that we must think like them is just pure arrogance.Don't get me wrong, if it was China who was rampaging down S.E.A, I would not hold back from shooting them just because they are Chinese.
There is a limit to what blood ties can do.I am a Singaporean, not a PRC guy.Though I dislike LKY's style, it doesn't mean we will sympathise with their attitudes. -
eh but think about it.... if jap didn't attack pearl harbour, they wouldn't get thier ass whacked... and if that didn't happen, the bloody americans wont loan them a single cent neverthelest teach them mass production techinque... now thier like the kings of mass presicion production.... only downside is its exp.... china can copy any one for less than half the price.... thier labours so cheap if it goes any lower, it'll be considered slave labour.... but have you guys seen recent social studies textbooks?? moe is askin us to follow how morden jap lives thier lives... they one us to care for the elderly like how they do and want us to take thier post-war workin attitude for exaple.... so we cant say thier all bad... i mean there must be sth good in everything bad....Originally posted by oxford mushroom:China has made her point. Now it is time to calm her population down. Japan will never get a seat in the UN among the permanent five unless China allows her. China has a veto vote she can use anytime.
It is in China's interest to grow stronger economically, militarily and politically, whilst not arousing too much suspicion or fear from the Americans or the Japanese. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, they made the mistake of waking up the sleeping giant. China is the giant that is just arousing from her sleep. It is in her interest to avoid major conflicts before she becomes fully ready to take on the world. -
I think it's already morally wrong to do pelting and burning of other countries' flags and defacing govt property -shrugz-
Some person trying to rant when he cant show action? Talk only, more action pls
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Since Jap already said sorry, why China just cant forget everything!
Isit still bcuz of pride?
Y things always turn out to be nasty bcuz of China?
Do u noe why their ppl on their streets demonstratin?
They are brought up this way. -
They've been raised this way by Mao's cronies and descendants.Originally posted by suGaR:Since Jap already said sorry, why China just cant forget everything!
Isit still bcuz of pride?
Y things always turn out to be nasty bcuz of China?
Do u noe why their ppl on their streets demonstratin?
They are brought up this way. -
Take "bao ji yuan" two bottles immediately, then two bottles after every 4 hours. Take also 4 Ultracarbon together with "bao ji yuan" and drink lots of water.Originally posted by skyline63:People teach their children. World war 2 is a honor. And they should start a new war. And do you think things is the same ?
Educated to the world war 2 ? hahahh!!!!!!!! Singapore LKY talk leh ! They know more Chinese history then LKY who study in ENGLAND ONE LEH !
I tell you Chinese in China hate Singaporean ! And Hate LKY ! Say he is a double head snake. And every Singaporean is that way. That is the way.
If the urge persists after 6 bottles of "bao ji yuan", take 2 imodium or equivalent consisting of loperamide hydrocholoride 2 mg and 1 tablet after every 4 hours.
If urge to purge continues, see the doctor.
Your shits is making people vomitting rubbish.
This place stinks!! -
read today's straits times. LKY share some insights.
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what sporeans need is their own mind.Originally posted by dragg:read today's straits times. LKY share some insights.
not everything their government said is correct.