Fair increase again?
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Yar right,paid well then the ministers wont corrupt,what kind of stupid logic is that?By having such a high salary,those ministers are actually "corrupt openly",even Malaysia also look down on our ministers,F**k those blood sucking ministers!!!Originally posted by Medicated Oil:SMRT and SBS transit MUST increase their profit every year so that they can pay the board directors (MPs) handsomely so as to prevent Corruption.
So, as MM Lee have stated, if the Singapore Citizens want a Corruption-free singapore, the MINISTERS MUST BE PAID WELL.
The Malaysia have a dig at the Singapore ministers as they have said that the Malaysia ministers dun need to be paid well as they are governed by integrity.
Please understand the New Fare Calculation Formula was IMPLEMENTED after the Economy "RECOVERED".
So, the SBS and SMRT have the RIGHT to increase their fares according to the Fare Calculation Formula.
When it is PRINTED on the FRONT PAGE of the ST, it is CONFIRMED that the increase is ON !!!! -
the question and english is so simple and i wonder why you need to dodge the issue.Originally posted by kingofbeholder:my english so simple also cannot understand meh?
if you think SMRT really earn that much, you can buy their share to earn divide CD every year. -
& da circle line... what a waste of civilian's money building that redundent thingy.. SG's so small... e.g it's like only 5 to 10 mins bus ride from Kallang stadium to Kallang MRT and they're gonna build a station at the stadium... no logic at all...
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Agree.Originally posted by lotus999:Hey smart alec
not many ppl can afford to buy shares and these are the ones most affected by any fare hike. -
Not to mention that there are always malfunction readers that seems to always over deduct the fare. Wonder how much extra money was deducted everyday from malfunctioning readers...Originally posted by silv3rgal:& da circle line... what a waste of civilian's money building that redundent thingy.. SG's so small... e.g it's like only 5 to 10 mins bus ride from Kallang stadium to Kallang MRT and they're gonna build a station at the stadium... no logic at all...
And its freakin unfair if they are increasin our transport fares coz of that....
About the readers, anyone realise that they are always better positioned at the entrace compared to the exit where they are so darn low. They thought that 1.7m passengers walk in and 1.5m passengers walk out. The readers at the exit are very hard to read to check if the fare deducted is correct.
Also note that the deduction now is very accurate. The readers are only on when the bus is very near to the bus stop, I even experience one that will on only when its 5 metres or so away from the bus stop! This caused major inconvenience to the alighting passengers as it is easier to tap the reader when the bus is moving at a constant speed than when it is slowing down as it approaching the bus stop.
My 2 questions:
What happened to the "profits" earned by the meters?
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Not to mention that there are always malfunction readers that seems to always over deduct the fare. Wonder how much extra money was deducted everyday from malfunctioning readers...Originally posted by silv3rgal:& da circle line... what a waste of civilian's money building that redundent thingy.. SG's so small... e.g it's like only 5 to 10 mins bus ride from Kallang stadium to Kallang MRT and they're gonna build a station at the stadium... no logic at all...
And its freakin unfair if they are increasin our transport fares coz of that....
About the readers, anyone realise that they are always better positioned at the entrace compared to the exit where they are so darn low. They thought that 1.7m passengers walk in and 1.5m passengers walk out. The readers at the exit are very hard to read to check if the fare deducted is correct.
Also note that the deduction now is very accurate. The readers are only on when the bus is very near to the bus stop, I even experience one that will on only when its 5 metres or so away from the bus stop! This caused major inconvenience to the alighting passengers as it is easier to tap the reader when the bus is moving at a constant speed than when it is slowing down as it approaching the bus stop.
My 2 questions:
What happened to the "profits" earned by the meters?
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i dont mean to be discourage ..but what actaully can we do?
who can go againt the rise ? if push to govt, they surely CB say govt will not and cannot affect the management of the SMRT.
if blame the SMRT blah blah blah...their spokeman will tell you:"wei, singapore having +8% last year. my pay also need increase mah. 10-20cent per travel si simi money? we singaporean already so rich to donate so much this year NKF, so i take it this year singaporean have too much money and have no place to spend. we(SMRT) helping you dude."
*who tell LHL happily say singapore is doing well last year and getting better the next few year.
*who ask all the singaporean(maybe inc you) to donate so much money to NKF. so high until the taiwan media also reporting.
*who tell all the dumb people who like to jump from the SMRT railway. make SMRT add more guard and camera.
sian AR...
if got the choice , i also want to throw stone at mrt station, but i scare later they rise another 10-20cent to prevent stone-thrower like me
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you are right! sometimes i wonder if they are reading from a standard script?Originally posted by kingofbeholder:i dont mean to be discourage ..but what actaully can we do?
who can go againt the rise ? if push to govt, they surely CB say govt will not and cannot affect the management of the SMRT.
if blame the SMRT blah blah blah...their spokeman will tell you:"wei, singapore having +8% last year. my pay also need increase mah. 10-20cent per travel si simi money? we singaporean already so rich to donate so much this year NKF, so i take it this year singaporean have too much money and have no place to spend. we(SMRT) helping you dude." -
Not too sure where does the 8% growth go into... to the rich or the poor...
I never donate to NKF this year. At least NKF donation is by choice. Something Interesting to note that when donating to NKF by phone, you need to pay the telecos. Compare to in US, you vote for the American Idols toll-free... Guess who the owns the local telcos? .... hmmmm
Since I am at NKF, why can't they just give a bank number for people to internet bank-in? -
everything go back to basic... you can choose, want ,or not to donate using the phone (with paying to telecom).Originally posted by Cindyfeh:Not too sure where does the 8% growth go into... to the rich or the poor...
I never donate to NKF this year. At least NKF donation is by choice. Something Interesting to note that when donating to NKF by phone, you need to pay the telecos. Compare to in US, you vote for the American Idols toll-free... Guess who the owns the local telcos? .... hmmmm
Since I am at NKF, why can't they just give a bank number for people to internet bank-in? -
Agree. Thats why I choose not to donate to the telcos.Originally posted by kingofbeholder:everything go back to basic... you can choose, want ,or not to donate using the phone (with paying to telecom). -
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walk or cycle - keep fit and develop good legsOriginally posted by www:two letters.
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interesting read.. lets see who are profiteering the most..
http://www.smrt.com.sg/statisticesofshareholders.pdf
or
http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc139&image=567_image002.jpg
TWENTY LARGEST SHAREHOLDERS
No. Name No. of Shares %
1 Temasek Holdings (Private) Limited 934,400,030 62.29
2 Raffles Nominees Pte Ltd 116,793,414 7.79
3 DBS Nominees Pte Ltd 59,297,922 3.95
4 Citibank Nominees Singapore Pte Ltd 21,302,375 1.42
5 HSBC (Singapore) Nominees Pte Ltd 19,942,440 1.33
6 United Overseas Bank Nominees Pte Ltd 17,884,000 1.19
7 Oversea-Chinese Bank Nominees Pte Ltd 8,011,000 0.53
8 Quah Wee Lai 3,000,000 0.20
9 Choo Si Sen 2,150,000 0.14
10 The Asia Life Assurance Society Ltd
- Singapore Life Fund 1,769,000 0.12
11 UOB Kay Hian Pte Ltd 1,768,000 0.12
12 Chen Siong Seng 1,699,000 0.11
13 Lee Pineapple Company Pte Ltd 1,550,000 0.10
14 Kim Eng Securities Pte Ltd 1,512,000 0.10
15 Phillip Securities Pte Ltd 1,303,000 0.09
16 Yap Wai Ying Theresa 1,262,000 0.08
17 Chong Yean Fong 1,200,000 0.08
18 OCBC Securities Private Ltd 1,003,000 0.07
19 Overseas Union Enterprise Limited 1,000,000 0.07
20 Toi Boon How Holdings Pte Ltd 1,000,000 0.07
Total 1,197,847,181 79.85
links extracted from http://forums.delphiforums.com/sammyboymod/messages?msg=71579.11 -
temasek holdings and its arm are the biggest shareholders of many listed companies here!
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I strongly feel that we should not donate to NKF at all, since they are steadily building up a huge reserve, and continuously start programs that raise funds at the expense of other less cash-rich charities, and suck up the finite donation dollar.Originally posted by Cindyfeh:Not too sure where does the 8% growth go into... to the rich or the poor...
I never donate to NKF this year. At least NKF donation is by choice. Something Interesting to note that when donating to NKF by phone, you need to pay the telecos. Compare to in US, you vote for the American Idols toll-free... Guess who the owns the local telcos? .... hmmmm
Since I am at NKF, why can't they just give a bank number for people to internet bank-in?
The result? Kidney patients who seem to always need donations, while orphans, the elderly, handicapped, people inflicted with other disease do not see any funds.
In that case, I would rather NKF be disbanded, and allow KDF to take over its role. That way, the needs of the unfortunate may be better balanced.
Imagine NKF opening branches out everywhere, with brand new buildings made of clean facade, while other charities struggle to even pay for basic cleaning costs. -
a lot of people in this forum seems to think lowly of NKF. where does NKF's 67 million per year come from if they are as bad as you think? why dont KDF and other charities do something if they are struggling with funds?Originally posted by pkchukiss:I strongly feel that we should not donate to NKF at all, since they are steadily building up a huge reserve, and continuously start programs that raise funds at the expense of other less cash-rich charities, and suck up the finite donation dollar.
The result? Kidney patients who seem to always need donations, while orphans, the elderly, handicapped, people inflicted with other disease do not see any funds.
In that case, I would rather NKF be disbanded, and allow KDF to take over its role. That way, the needs of the unfortunate may be better balanced.
Imagine NKF opening branches out everywhere, with brand new buildings made of clean facade, while other charities struggle to even pay for basic cleaning costs.
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as i have post it some time back...
http://sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=119343
and oso quotedOriginally posted by Joshua1975:it no good news at all as the govt say that the economic is good now.
from the new formula, it is one which will reflect or pact to the economic.
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Ya ! People that living aboard. And thinking like they care for Singapore.Originally posted by dragg:i certainly hope that is the case. afterall what the govt do or wont do will not affect me!! -
Perhaps one day public transport fare's so high that it would be more economical to drive!
It seems that we Singaporeans have no say or whatsoeva....
The rich won't be affected much.. but they are definately driving those people who're struggling just to meet ends.. to the wall....simply bullshit... -
It is not your english, it is you mindset.Originally posted by kingofbeholder:my english so simple also cannot understand meh?
if you think SMRT really earn that much, you can buy their share to earn divide CD every year.
SMRT is part of infrastructure and it is there (or should be there) to serve the people, the ordinary citizens, not the shareholders!! -
A company must always keep increasing their profits so as to increase their share valueOriginally posted by dragg:dont see why the need to increase when they are already making so much.
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you forgot to add that share price will also go upOriginally posted by bismarck:well in sg, if anything's justified no one would making noise abt it at this forum.
aiyah the usual story.....raise fairs then next financial year make record profits
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SMRT is a Private company......the moment it listed on the stock exchange, it has to start thinking in the interest of its shareholders....Originally posted by sgdiehard:It is not your english, it is you mindset.
SMRT is part of infrastructure and it is there (or should be there) to serve the people, the ordinary citizens, not the shareholders!!