Phillip Yeo
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i think so too... i was reading the articles in details andOriginally posted by bratpig:He is very passionate about the things he does. Maybe he got carried away. But IF you all know that you are not sich persons. Why bother? Unless there are people feeling that way
it seemd lik he is passionate abt improving the system...
just that he got carried away...
one thing i wish to also pt out on the more females/forigener
making the grades for Astar scholars..
its perfectlt understandable....
1) female as scholars
I feel that the research field is more suitable for females
when they do not have alot of choices in the industry...
given the tender, less dynamic, and milder nature of females....
research field is more suitable...
whsereas hot blooded guys will have alot more chioces...
the more dynamic ones wil probably choose to go else where...
lik the private sectors... for more real world challenges....
than seating in the lab doin boring research for yrs....
2)foriegners as scholars...
if a sporean get a scholarship form another uni/country...
im sure he will be obedient as well....
jus like foriegn workers here....
infact i second the idea of giving more scholarships
to foriegners/women for research....
i personally feel its one area where we can tap into
better foriegn brains....
but philipe yeos responses did seemd like he is passionate
abt giving them to local guys.. but disppointed w them thou....
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Is it wrong to use an agency's money and speak frankly on how the agency can improve itself?The scholar involved was concerned about the direction A*Star was heading in the way it conducted the KPIs and benchmarking for their performance, which basically skewed the weightage towards academic grades rather than actual research output and efficacy.Originally posted by bratpig:Personally, it does not matter to me where you choose to make your stand or opinion. A whiner is still a whiner. Everybody should understand that a blog is no longer a personal diary that you can keep hide. It is hosted in public domain. You should go read those newspaper articles on bond-breakers first before you condemn Mr Yeo.
Mr Yeo has that one thing which those whiners do not have. He has passions in his work and company. Remember how much he contributed to EDB. Those whiners do not have passion. They only care about their own gains.
By the way, you have yet to answer me. Is it right to use other people's money for your education then go on and whine about how pathetic that person is? Is this how you want to see the society is degrading into? You like ingrates as your friends?
P.s. I admire Mr Yeo for his passion and character. These are what seperates the boys from the men.
Therefore I beg to ask, what is so "whiny" about speaking up about the possible mistakes a stat board might make?He is in fact protecting our interests.Only in the eyes of Philip Yeo is he a whiner, because he did not and will not conform to A*Star's ruinious pathway to supposed success.
Transparency denied is transparency denied, no matter how Philip Yeo wishes to re-glaze it.
(P.S, Iveco is right.I would rather work my way up somewhere in my own capacity than be submitted to the ludicrous blinkers of the local scholarly system.I have no hankering nor desire to be an "elite".Our establishment's concept of an elite differs from my own so I'd rather chart my own course in life.Money, prestige and influence is not everything in this world.) -
How in the world would you know? Given the lack of genuine transparency in these government organisations, as well as the fact that, as we know, Singaporeans are almost never told the truth about anything that reflects negatively on the government, it is nearly impossible for anyone to accurately gauge exactly how much of a contribution these organisations have made to Singapore.Originally posted by bratpig:without EDB getting more foreign investment, you would most prob be sweeping the floor and eating shat now
For example, there is really no reliable way to verify whether all those corporate tax breaks, cuts in CPF contribution rates and other incentives given to foreign MNCs have really translated into adequate benefits for average Singaporeans. Indeed, considering the stagnant employment and salary levels we're seeing, as well as the ongoing financial problems that many Singaporean families are facing, one might have good cause to suspect that all is not well.
There is also no reliable way to confirm whether or not all our taxpayers' money is being properly managed by these government agencies. On the contrary, I believe many international commentators have remarked that many Singapore govt agencies have produced very poor returns on their investments to date. -
that was a side issue meant to lighten the mood la....Originally posted by karn123:2)
Regarding what someone said in page 1 about the female scholar having intellect and looks, so what? She needs wisdom as well as MORAL, KEY aspects of a person imo. -
One point to all, do not rely on our own news for our economic data.Look everywhere, deny ignorance and make informed choices and judgement.
It's simply specious and ludicrous to report that things are always looking up when you and I can see the plain opposite.If journalistic ideals are not upheld in a paper,it does not deserve our continued readership. -
Can someone post the interview with that Chng Bitch please? I wonder what she has to say about us sacrificing 2 years of our time as NSF and subsequent reservist duties eating up out working hours.
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Yes, EDB might have made successes in the past and now.But we need to realise that it is not God, and infalliable.They need to realise that words hurt as much as action, and reactions will abound.If they do not care, then it might be back to haunt them.Originally posted by NuLife:this i have to speak up for philip yeo thou...
in my understanding.. b4 the days of phlip yeo and astar...
things were so much worse...
the seggregated uni-linked institute were known to be
a place to 'idle' and a tax payers money wasters in the industry..
eg CWC, DSI, etc...
i myself is in the R&D industry and have heard alot of bad things
abt them then....and wud definitely not want to join any of
them and spoil my resume....
but even now... i have frens in Astar who still say things
arent goin that well....but at least superficially to me...
via media astar did one thing rite: glamourising R&D field...
its one way to attract more people.. -
Originally posted by LazerLordz:(P.S, Iveco is right.I would rather work my way up somewhere in my own capacity than be submitted to the ludicrous blinkers of the local scholarly system.I have no hankering nor desire to be an "elite".Our establishment's concept of an elite differs from my own so I'd rather chart my own course in life.Money, prestige and influence is not everything in this world.)
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i meant Astar progress not Edb....betw...;pOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Yes, EDB might have made successes in the past and now.But we need to realise that it is not God, and infalliable.They need to realise that words hurt as much as action, and reactions will abound.If they do not care, then it might be back to haunt them. -
Inter-linked.A*Star gets its glamour factor from EDB's past track record of igniting FDI into Singapore.Originally posted by NuLife:i meant Astar progress not Edb....betw...;p -
Now I'm confused. Isn't Philip Yeo the EDB chief? What's A*Star got to do with him, unless he has been reassigned. Anyway, EDB itself has been rebranded Spring Singapore or something like that.Originally posted by NuLife:i meant Astar progress not Edb....betw...;p -
i wonder if mr. yeo will come and threaten to sue everyone here who talks bad of him.
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Ehmz....media is trying to portray him in the good image....dun you get it?Originally posted by NuLife:i think so too... i was reading the articles in details and
it seemd lik he is passionate abt improving the system...
just that he got carried away...
one thing i wish to also pt out on the more females/forigener
making the grades for Astar scholars..
its perfectlt understandable....
1) female as scholars
I feel that the research field is more suitable for females
when they do not have alot of choices in the industry...
given the tender, less dynamic, and milder nature of females....
research field is more suitable...
whsereas hot blooded guys will have alot more chioces...
the more dynamic ones wil probably choose to go else where...
lik the private sectors... for more real world challenges....
than seating in the lab doin boring research for yrs....
2)foriegners as scholars...
if a sporean get a scholarship form another uni/country...
im sure he will be obedient as well....
jus like foriegn workers here....
infact i second the idea of giving more scholarships
to foriegners/women for research....
i personally feel its one area where we can tap into
better foriegn brains....
but philipe yeos responses did seemd like he is passionate
abt giving them to local guys.. but disppointed w them thou....
but this does not mean i agree w his words/actions...
Com'on, who shoots his fellow men in the back when they're up and running? -
And how do you know that it was due to EDB that we got better?Originally posted by bratpig:without EDB getting more foreign investment, you would most prob be sweeping the floor and eating shat now
Words by the govt?
We are relying on EDB to bring in foreign investments most of the time when they link foreign companies with local ones, and our current system is in place such that we require the continued existence of EDB to do so.
So in that case, since we've always been that way, how do you know that, without EDB, we would be most prob be sweeping the floor and eating shat now? -
This is a discussion forum.Originally posted by Ito_^:i wonder if mr. yeo will come and threaten to sue everyone here who talks bad of him.
So much...for free speech...huh...
We are discussing on his statements....
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Nobody gives a damn to the the 2.5 years we spend in the army.
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EspeciallyOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:Nobody gives a damn to the the 2.5 years we spend in the army.
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I dunno about others but personally I feel incensed by what she said in Sunday Times..Originally posted by greengoblin:Especially -
Originally posted by greengoblin:Especially
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just want to answer the question the scholar girl had. she couldn't understand why her male contemporaries talk about NS all the time.
NS is a significant milestone in the lives of the average singapore guy. it is a life changing experience very different from school. there's a lot of fear and apprehension because overnight, you lost liberty and freedom. yet at the same time, you found comradeship and brotherhood that keeps you going through the pain and suffering. don't you watch war movies? the intensity of shared lives can be very strong.
having said that, 10 years down the road, these events will be overtaken by other events and topics will change. your male friends will talk about other things like careers, relationships, families, kids ... -
And we have to sit back and let her lack of intellect and empathy warm our hearts?Ooooh..I feel so warm and cuddled.Originally posted by snow leopard:just want to answer the question the scholar girl had. she couldn't understand why her male contemporaries talk about NS all the time.
NS is a significant milestone in the lives of the average singapore guy. it is a life changing experience very different from school. there's a lot of fear and apprehension because overnight, you lost liberty and freedom. yet at the same time, you found comradeship and brotherhood that keeps you going through the pain and suffering. don't you watch war movies? the intensity of shared lives can be very strong.
having said that, 10 years down the road, these events will be overtaken by other events and topics will change. your male friends will talk about other things like careers, relationships, families, kids ...
But one thing marks us from them, we let them make such statements and we will just gripe and debate like educated folk.They merely call up Joe Lawyer and feed him for the coming months. -
another practical observation about life to share with her. one can make up for a lack of physical appeal by cultivating a warm and gentle disposition. for her case, i think she might need to cultivate lots of warmth and gentleness.
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Maybe he just an attention seeker
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If there was a better economic board which re-distributed the profit better to the people, instead of almost 99% to govt. coffers, then people wouldn't be struggling right now to make ends meet- just to survive.Originally posted by bratpig:without EDB getting more foreign investment, you would most prob be sweeping the floor and eating shat now
My cousin, a poly graduate in IT, now only earns S$900(after CPF) at HP/Compaq. Even a mere full time waiter earns more money than that.
The fact remains that while the govt. should monitor economic trade, economic links and other stuff related to it(such as passing laws to make it much more fair), it shouldn't control it completely, 100%. Because eventually politicians by themselves are greedy by nature. If you give them a few dollars more, they eventually want more of it. And they continously will want more and more every year.
It's a vicious cycle. Otherwise why do we have so many civil servants, who are being paid thousands every month for doing nothing, so many committees- which most of it are useless and pointless, and MPs and PAP ministers being paid millions of dollars when they have proven they are a bunch of useless crap idiots?
I mean South Korea, 8 years after the economic crisis in '97, has boomed since the early 2000s. SK private companies, after going through a series of tough reforms have become better and better. The likes of Samsung and Hyundai are going places and are making huge profits. So why is S'pore struggling to get out of sluggish growth since 2002?
And to include this point: why is Ho Ching's Temasek Holdings struggling in the foreign market outside of S'pore as well? -
And I only believe the only reason why I'm so passionate about these issues is because I believe S'poreans should get more out of their lives than compared to now.
It's sad however to hear from people however, that even with overwhelming evidence that no matter how the PAP have since went down the money route and abandoned the people since then, people continue to support it, blindly.
And it's their own money- the taxpayers- that we are talking about.
S'poreans deserve more rights than they have got now. I believe in that. I also believe that they should have more economic rights right now- and the first thing we should do is to make sure they earn more money(or pay less unnecessary taxes) so that they have more than enough in their pockets.