The poor bugger was most likely tortured Abu-Ghraib style. I see no good reason for him to gather intelligence on China, unless it was requested by the MIW themselves, though highly unlikely.Originally posted by SOP:Source: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/050531/1/3srpe.html
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China has claimed a senior journalist for Singapore's Straits Times newspaper detained last month has confessed to being a spy for foreign intelligence organisations.
Ching Cheong, 55, the Hong Kong-based chief China correspondent for the paper, was detained on April 22 in the southern city of Guangzhou.
"On April 22 Ching was investigated by relevant Chinese departments for being involved in espionage," the foreign ministry said in a statement.
"Ching has admitted that in recent years he has been following the instructions of overseas intelligence organisations and has undertaken intelligence collecting activities on mainland China.
"He has collected a large amount of spy fees. China is currently carrying out further investigations on his espionage activities."
The statement highlighted that Ching was a Hong Kong citizen but did not say which countries he had allegedly spied for.
Ching's wife Mary Lau told AFP on Monday her husband was detained while trying to obtain a sensitive manuscript of secret interviews with deposed Chinese leader Zhao Ziyang.
Zhao, a former premier and secretary general of the Communist Party, was purged in 1989 after opposing the decision to use force to quell the six-week-long Tiananmen Square democracy protests that year.
His inside knowledge of what led to the decision by Chinese leaders to order troops to open fire on the Tiananmen Square demonstrators would be explosive material in China.
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ST journalist column had been known to crawl with Intelligence People... Now we gonna get it from China again... Thank you ST. So much for being voted as one of the best newspaper in the region....
No, you can't trust any government that fails to match EU standards of human rights.Originally posted by Ito_^:can't trust the chinese government.
Indeed.Originally posted by lwflee:Problem is that the Straits times is filled with intelligence or ex intel officers. So i am not surprised that this has happened. I feel sorry for the man, but the ST had it coming. Like i said in another thread, ST journalists, go get a proper job instead of pretending to be journalists.
Well, he was employed by a company in which Temasek Holdings has a major influence.Originally posted by stupidissmart:he is now a hong kong citizen... and hng kong is china now... how can our gov get involved in tis domestic issue....![]()
already reacted i think. there were statements from both SPH and MFA.Originally posted by LazerLordz:They are charging him with something close to treason for a piece of investigative journalism.Pretty low down I must say.How is our government going to react?Let's wait and see.
Well, he was employed by a company in which Temasek Holdings has a major influenceHe was only employed. When an indonesian been caught in iraq working for the america company, only the country of indonsia seems to be doing something compared with the americans. Unless the say singapore is the one tat employs the "spy" as a "spy", then it really isn't our country business.... it is only the company business at best
But you have to realise that Temasek Holdings does have a very comprehensive influence over her companies.Originally posted by stupidissmart:He was only employed. When an indonesian been caught in iraq working for the america company, only the country of indonsia seems to be doing something compared with the americans. Unless the say singapore is the one tat employs the "spy" as a "spy", then it really isn't our country business....
But you have to realise that Temasek Holdings does have a very comprehensive influence over her companies.In black and white, temesek holding is only a company... our politics shouldn't be involved in it
Once you are caught for espionage or carrying out any activities a country defined as contravening national security, don't think there is much you can do and you can't trust any government, not the communist nor the american, not even singapore with its ISA, any human right standard or other moral standard. You can only hope that your own country is on your side to fight for a fair trial if not for release. Can you trust your own country? Is Ching a singaporean or a hongkonger?Originally posted by iveco:No, you can't trust any government that fails to match EU standards of human rights.
Had you considered the possibility that he may have been tortured into making a false confession Abu Ghraib style? Anything like that would not be allowed to happen in a country like say, Sweden, no matter what the circumstances are.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Once you are caught for espionage or carrying out any activities a country defined as contravening national security, don't think there is much you can do and you can't trust any government, not the communist nor the american, not even singapore with its ISA, any human right standard or other moral standard. You can only hope that your own country is on your side to fight for a fair trial if not for release. Can you trust your own country? Is Ching a singaporean or a hongkonger?
Is this a case of espionage or free journalism?
Is he one of the "Straits Times intel officers"? sent to "shed blood to overthrow the communists"???
Or was he making some extra for his retirement? (Latest news he was working for the taiwanese.)
Or was he just doing his job as a true journalist trying to unveil the secrets behind the iron curtain and crossed the boundaries?
don't think ST or Temasek Holdings would risk all their interests in china for one person.
Will he become a martyr of freedom or is he simply made a scapegoat, or was he set up?
The only thing we can do for Ching is to pray for him.
Just have to remember, when entering countries like indonesia, malaysia and singapore, don't bring in anything that is defined as drugs; when entering countries like america, don't walk around with a parcel or a luggage, which would be defined as possible explosive device; when entering communists countries like china and vietnam, know what could be defined as "sensitive or possible subsersive documents." I always make sure that I dump all the taiwanese newspaper even before I land in Hong Kong.
you talking about them or us?Originally posted by iveco:No, you can't trust any government that fails to match EU standards of human rights.