Cut Pay and Pay
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Just cannot tahan that the leaders of Singapore keep advising the people of Singapore in getting less pay to keep their work.
The low skilled workers are always being victimised in getting less pay as they are always being compared to the "upcoming" china and indian competition.
But, in not keeping the daily expenses (transport, tax, PUB bills) down, how does the Government expect the common workers to handle the daily INCREASING expenses with their miserable salary.
The Singapore people have been getting "LOW" pay upon the advice of the government for the past few years.
However, we are not getting more money to handle the expenses, instead we are expect to "redesign" our job - Multitask (One man does five men's job)
Or else we will be "retrenched".
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Even worse for those in the lower income brackets is CPF. Originally intended to help people save for retirement, the high minimum sum actually punishes and causes unnecessary anxiety and suffering for the poor.
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When i passed by my living room's TV yesterday night, i heard MM Lee talking about having to slaughter the sacred cow..
I was like "Oh for goodness sake!!!" -
The way I see it; Singapore is tailored for the rich and well off. Wherein, the low and middle income, fuels the needs and livelihood of the rich and elites.
We're like livestock to be milked over and over and over and over ..... -
Below the feet of those riche ppl....
are the struggling commoners (and dead bodies) -
The rich GOT richer, the poor got POORER...
Haiz.............
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Agreed. Look at the COE, the benchmark is 1.6L, discouraging people from buying small cars. Road tax surcharge for old vehicles, discouraginging people to drive old cars. Developing "World class" transport system, Stop building 3 rooms flats, etc... etc...Originally posted by ShutterBug:The way I see it; Singapore is tailored for the rich and well off. Wherein, the low and middle income, fuels the needs and livelihood of the rich and elites.
We're like livestock to be milked over and over and over and over .....
All these are efforts put in to create the image of properity of Singapore.
But are we that prosperous? Yes, the rich ones are. We are just like the teenagers, trying to look rich with expensive branded stuff, but actually broke and poor.
Most rules and policies including those mentioned above are set for the rich. They have forgotten the poor and the old. These are the group of citizens whom one old fellow refered to as the sacred cow.
Our leaders are trying to mould a "world class" image for Singapore, but forgetting that many can only afford "economy class", yet blaming them of being resistant to change, not willing to learn new skills, choosy and you name it they have it kind of blames and excuses. Again, its like our snout teenagers despising their old parents.
On the other hand, our policies always hinder the citizen to be creative and find money to survive. Recently read from ST forum, regarding a housing agent writing in to explain why the poor prefer to hold on to big flats than to downgrade to ease the financial crisis. This is because rules were set that for downgrading, 4% cash is needed for bank loans as downgrader not entitled for HDB loans.
When cases of poverty like the Wong brother and sister came to light, our usual excuse from the grassroots or ministers will always be the standard " There are several schemes and help provider for the poor, but few utilise them." I would like to remind them that even I do not know of the various help schemes we have for the poor, how then can someone who cannot afford newspaper, TV or internet know about the schemes?
My advise, If you are among the high income earners, sit back and relax, you will become richer. If you are middle high income and below, work hard, save hard to find yourself poorer. -
I have always envy Malaysian. They have no pressure on education fees, medical fees, housing loan, utilities bills and etc. We are very very very pressured by all of the above. Freaking Government!!!Originally posted by Agressor:Agreed. Look at the COE, the benchmark is 1.6L, discouraging people from buying small cars. Road tax surcharge for old vehicles, discouraginging people to drive old cars. Developing "World class" transport system, Stop building 3 rooms flats, etc... etc...
All these are efforts put in to create the image of properity of Singapore.
But are we that prosperous? Yes, the rich ones are. We are just like the teenagers, trying to look rich with expensive branded stuff, but actually broke and poor.
Most rules and policies including those mentioned above are set for the rich. They have forgotten the poor and the old. These are the group of citizens whom one old fellow refered to as the sacred cow.
Our leaders are trying to mould a "world class" image for Singapore, but forgetting that many can only afford "economy class", yet blaming them of being resistant to change, not willing to learn new skills, choosy and you name it they have it kind of blames and excuses. Again, its like our snout teenagers despising their old parents.
On the other hand, our policies always hinder the citizen to be creative and find money to survive. Recently read from ST forum, regarding a housing agent writing in to explain why the poor prefer to hold on to big flats than to downgrade to ease the financial crisis. This is because rules were set that for downgrading, 4% cash is needed for bank loans as downgrader not entitled for HDB loans.
When cases of poverty like the Wong brother and sister came to light, our usual excuse from the grassroots or ministers will always be the standard " There are several schemes and help provider for the poor, but few utilise them." I would like to remind them that even I do not know of the various help schemes we have for the poor, how then can someone who cannot afford newspaper, TV or internet know about the schemes?
My advise, If you are among the high income earners, sit back and relax, you will become richer. If you are middle high income and below, work hard, save hard to find yourself poorer. -
yet the government couldnt wait to reinstate their salaries at first sight of alleged economic recovery. but when it comes to our CPF they will say it has to be low to remain competitive.
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hope ppl will be smarter in the next election lor...just have to lose a GRC and PAP's days are numbered
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That's why I find it laughable to keep on hearing some PAP supporters here claiming that PAP still represents the nation. I think that's pathetic. Its their right but it still is pathetic.
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I don't envy Malaysians. In fact comparing Singapore and Malaysia, I still prefer Singapore inspite of PAP. How would you feel as a CHinese living there and having to compete with the Bumiputras who are given special priviledges just because they are Malay.
How would you feel if the governemnt there (Malaysia) 'force' you'to buy their National Car(Potong Saga) by imposing high taxes on foreign cars such as Korean and Jap makes thereby leaving the locals there who are poor with no choice but to buy Potong.
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Actually a proton car is good enuff if u wanna get around in Malaysia. If u want a reliable car but not a flashy one, one of their local made cars are just fine.
Obviously if u wanna a Japanese car like Toyota, it becomes a big problem. But I did last hear that Proton is facing competition- this time from China- which the article claims to be even more cheaper and reliable than local made Protons. -
there is no perfect country. it all depends on what you want. job stability, freedom of speech, cheap cars, cheap housing, homogenous society, safety etc.
the biggest problem with singapore is its high cost of living and lack of job opportunities in an increasingly competitive environment.
there is no denying we provide very good education. but what is the point of having good education when jobs are not plentiful? -
The best option will be to work FOR the gahmen or one of their stat boards. In the end, there is some measure of job security plus a decent pay.
Still, ppl like me find such organisations politically charged arenas where scholars duke it out to 'earn' right of passage to the pinnacle. While peasants like me endure the lowly positions in office, these so-called 'brilliant' academics bluster and banter their way to the top, sometimes with nothing more than past qualifications and no real experience, prompting bad decision-making and money losing choices.
Sadly, they are tolerated because of PM's claim that they are the 'future' of S'pore.
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sadly... this is singapore... the whole place reminds me of a pressure cooker..
i only hope for my off springs can have a happy life.. -
not unless you move to a country that is less pressurizing or you strike it rich.Originally posted by yorkshire:sadly... this is singapore... the whole place reminds me of a pressure cooker..
i only hope for my off springs can have a happy life.. -
Ever wonder why now bank can loan you $$$ for your HDB flat now? New policy?
Why loan from HDB are harder to get now? HDB no $$$?
If a unit did not pay loan from HDB? What can HDB do to them. Err... nothing much I think. More paper work from HDB send to you, say interest will add on blah blah blah. Till last resort get you change to a smaller unit unless you are already in the smallest unit.
If it was a loan from Bank. Hey good luck to you. HDB is at it best of can not do anything thing because you loan from bank and not from HDB. Your unit been reprocess by the bank and not HDB.
You not have a roof under you head? Maybe can look for the one who say something like all Singaporean will have a roof under his/her head. That is if he still alive. -
i beg to differ on the "good education" partOriginally posted by dragg:there is no perfect country. it all depends on what you want. job stability, freedom of speech, cheap cars, cheap housing, homogenous society, safety etc.
the biggest problem with singapore is its high cost of living and lack of job opportunities in an increasingly competitive environment.
there is no denying we provide very good education. but what is the point of having good education when jobs are not plentiful?
why do i see so many muggers become helpless without their textbooks? -
another thing about the cpf is the minimum sum. a staggering 120000!!!
ridiculous. they are doing all they can to refuse us our cpf!!! -
few issue are obvious.
1. govt control the CPF because doesnt want the burden of taking care of the olderly. esp when singaporean are getting greyer in years to come.
2. indeed singapore are run by a family and a small cluster of so call elite monopolise by a family. do i need to say more. whose family run the country like MNC. control the finances, control the union,vpolitical monopoly. in fact we singapore is the most well run MNC country in the world.
shall we follow the american max. 2 terms or 3 terms for taiwanese.
this would prevent a dynasty from being form.
3. pathetic state of Tripatite union.
dispite govt saying a harmonious union is impt. does it need to come at the expense of the worker benefits. look the world greatest economy. which one doesnt have a strong labour movement. korea? USA? australia? HK? Japan? UK? germany? or do we singapore need to follow China style? worker to fend for themselves?
4. public transport. why our transport price hikes need to be control by a panel of few person who decide the bus fare is reasonable or not. if im not wrong one of the member is ex SAF top general? does he ever take a bus? or any member from the board take a MRT??
we doesn look great on the outside. but the only beneficiaries from our economy are the top 5-10% of the society.
maybe we does need a 3rd world war to restart the balance again. -
i believe none of the transport committee members use the public transport.Originally posted by reyes:few issue are obvious.
1. govt control the CPF because doesnt want the burden of taking care of the olderly. esp when singaporean are getting greyer in years to come.
2. indeed singapore are run by a family and a small cluster of so call elite monopolise by a family. do i need to say more. whose family run the country like MNC. control the finances, control the union,vpolitical monopoly. in fact we singapore is the most well run MNC country in the world.
shall we follow the american max. 2 terms or 3 terms for taiwanese.
this would prevent a dynasty from being form.
3. pathetic state of Tripatite union.
dispite govt saying a harmonious union is impt. does it need to come at the expense of the worker benefits. look the world greatest economy. which one doesnt have a strong labour movement. korea? USA? australia? HK? Japan? UK? germany? or do we singapore need to follow China style? worker to fend for themselves?
4. public transport. why our transport price hikes need to be control by a panel of few person who decide the bus fare is reasonable or not. if im not wrong one of the member is ex SAF top general? does he ever take a bus? or any member from the board take a MRT??
we doesn look great on the outside. but the only beneficiaries from our economy are the top 5-10% of the society.
maybe we does need a 3rd world war to restart the balance again.
a 3rd world war will probably wipe out all mankind - really restart the balance!!! -
I'm NOT voting for them.
My mother is old and sick, and they DO NOT allow her to withdraw her CPF to maintain her medical condition. When I help her apply for early withdrawal, they wrote back literally implying that she should wait till her condition worsens, to the extent she cannot work to support herself. Can you imagine this? INSENSITIVITY!!!
Firstly, which employer in good old Singapore, would employ someon 60 years old, and who has medical conditions? And we're all supposed to let our medical conditions deteriorate until we're wheelchair bound before they even let us draw on our own money on a monthly basis????
This is a God Damned country if you ask me! -
The more I read stuff from here and the more I listen to people who have suffered under the PAP system and the more I hear of stuff by people who have great insight of the flaws of the PAP system, the more I believe the ordinary citizens deserve better.
That's why we must start now in that respect- to show discontent at the way the PAP have handled matters so far. By not voting for them, we will send a message to the PAP that we are no fools, we are no idiots and we weren't born yesterday.
I believe just as well that if the PAP continues to be in this way, then eventually they will get a taste of their own bitter medicine. In this respect, I wouldn't mind being the one to give them that. -
i dont understand why they insist on holding onto our cpf. whats our US200 billion of reserves for?Originally posted by ShutterBug:I'm NOT voting for them.
My mother is old and sick, and they DO NOT allow her to withdraw her CPF to maintain her medical condition. When I help her apply for early withdrawal, they wrote back literally implying that she should wait till her condition worsens, to the extent she cannot work to support herself. Can you imagine this? INSENSITIVITY!!!
Firstly, which employer in good old Singapore, would employ someon 60 years old, and who has medical conditions? And we're all supposed to let our medical conditions deteriorate until we're wheelchair bound before they even let us draw on our own money on a monthly basis????
This is a God Damned country if you ask me!
beats me!!!