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who gives a damn about her response... she is not the SM.. her husband is... her words is worth as much as the ah soh you find in every fish market.Originally posted by margarita:I m surprised & disgusted wif her response.
we didnt elect her... we elected her husband.. its her husband we gave our support and confidence... she is not a representative of ANYTHING, and a representative of NOBODY except herself...
she call $600,000 peanuts... then how about the rest of us?? we must be being paid like slaves with bread crumbs??? -
Smart as Durai to get the board to give him 12 months of bonus for the past few years, yet, he while in the midst of a major charity event, decided to sue SPH for a news 2 years old that many people has forgotten.
I think its not as simple as just sueing SPH.
I suspect he is planning to get sacked by the board.
Why so?
For a Golden Handshake of unthinkable amount.
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Did we really elect him?Originally posted by tripwire:who gives a damn about her response... she is not the SM.. her husband is... her words is worth as much as the ah soh you find in every fish market.
we didnt elect her... we elected her husband.. its her husband we gave our support and confidence... she is not a representative of ANYTHING, and a representative of NOBODY except herself...
she call $600,000 peanuts... then how about the rest of us?? we must be being paid like slaves with bread crumbs???
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5357 Total Signatures
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Neither did we elect LHL. At least LKY fought tough election campaigns in the 60s and 70s.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Did we really elect him? -
eh explain to me... even if it reaches 4 million... will Durai and friends be able to see it?Originally posted by LazerLordz:5357 Total Signatures
1431hrs.
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But any way...I think it is down or overloaded or busy or..some thing else... It has got no response leh.
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More importantly, will they care?Originally posted by Farmer Brown:eh explain to me... even if it reaches 4 million... will Durai and friends be able to see it?
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not to be detracted over the key issue.. but the fact of the matter is.. he was elected... either by default or through electoral votes.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Did we really elect him?
its not his fault, if no opposition wanna stand against him... or if >>WE<< choose not to stand against him in his ward.
if you feel that democracy has failed when someone won by default.. then its not that the democracy has failed.. but we have failed democracy.
but then again.. i would vote for him if i got the chance.. so.. i cannot say i failed democracy.
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Well, thanks to the GRC system, democracy is all but dead in Singapore.Originally posted by tripwire:not to be detracted over the key issue.. but the fact of the matter is.. he was elected... either by default or through electoral votes.
its not his fault, if no opposition wanna stand against him... or if >>WE<< choose not to stand against him in his ward.
if you feel that democracy has failed when someone won by default.. then its not that the democracy has failed.. but we have failed democracy.
but then again.. i would vote for him if i got the chance.. so.. i cannot say i failed democracy.
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divert donation to KDF!!!!Originally posted by BillyBong:More importantly, will they care?
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we r worst den peanutsOriginally posted by tripwire:who gives a damn about her response... she is not the SM.. her husband is... her words is worth as much as the ah soh you find in every fish market.
we didnt elect her... we elected her husband.. its her husband we gave our support and confidence... she is not a representative of ANYTHING, and a representative of NOBODY except herself...
she call $600,000 peanuts... then how about the rest of us?? we must be being paid like slaves with bread crumbs??? -
Yes, support them. THey are a more worthy charity. Excess founds can go to SPCA and Cancer Society too.Originally posted by tripwire:divert donation to KDF!!!! -
i dont think so....Originally posted by iveco:Well, thanks to the GRC system, democracy is all but dead in Singapore.
i see GRC as a middle ground election system between single constituencies election vs a national election.
while some may question the reasoning behind the GRC system... its still based on a internationally recognised election process where the winner gets all the seats in the ward... based on majority votes.
understand that.. if PAP looses a ward.. they also stand to loose 3 to 6 seats!... so there are risk to everything...
to claim that GRC system leads to the death of democracy in singapore is belittleing those of us singaporeans who voted for or against the various parties under the GRC system... and the outcome of our decision . -
I think the petition website is down....
I'm hoping against hope that it's because there are too many people there jamming the servers. Quite possible actually... the number of signatures was just in single digits yesterday. -
Most GRCs are uncontested because it is not easy to find 4 or 5 peopel to fill the opposition slate. I have observed federal and state elections in other countries, and they either practice proportional representation (in which all parties with a certain percentage of popular votes are guaranteed seats in parliament) or preferential voting in single wards (in which people vote by marking numbers on their ballot slip). In the 2nd case, it allows us to choose the candidate we like very much, unlike the current system that produces a lot of blank votes. Not surprisingly, there are a significant number of independent MPs sworn into office.Originally posted by tripwire:to claim that GRC system leads to the death of democracy in singapore is belittleing those of us singaporeans who voted for or against the various parties under the GRC system... and the outcome of our decision .
Also, isn't the CDC mayor supposed to represent those in a particular district? Then why is he apppointed as the mayor, and not elected by local residents?
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The GRC system favours Leviathans.Huge lumbering beasts who can afford the huge numbers of members.
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i understand your desire... and i do support some of your position... but i feel that if our opposition cannot even find enough people (3 to 6 only!!) to stand against a single ward.. what's the point of having proportional representation??Originally posted by iveco:Most GRCs are uncontested because it is not easy to find 4 or 5 peopel to fill the opposition slate. I have observed federal and state elections in other countries, and they either practice proportional representation (in which all parties with a certain percentage of popular votes are guaranteed seats in parliament) or preferential voting in single wards (in which people vote by marking numbers on their ballot slip). In the 2nd case, it allows us to choose the candidate we like very much, unlike the current system that produces a lot of blank votes. Not surprisingly, there are a significant number of independent MPs sworn into office.
Also, isn't the CDC mayor supposed to represent those in a particular district? Then why is he apppointed as the mayor, and not elected by local residents? I feel we need to have local elections for the CDC mayor, although it need not be compulsory.
looking back at all several recent election... our Opposition parties NEVER intended to win the election... they just want to grab one seat or two in the parliament through their "by-election" strategy!
with opposition like them... who needs election!!
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True. In Australia, every seat (single-member ones) has a multiple-cornered fight. The people vote for their favourite candidate by numbering off the voting slip. To be valid, your voting slip must have the number "1" on it. It is not necessary to list all your choices. If I had the chance to vote (which my crush 6 years my junior does), I'd only list 3 choices.Originally posted by LazerLordz:The GRC system favours Leviathans.Huge lumbering beasts who can afford the huge numbers of members. -
6217 Total Signatures and counting ....
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many more are needed to have any impact.Originally posted by crazy monkey:6217 Total Signatures and counting .... -
its not the amount of signatures
Who is gonna present this petition?
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Do your part! Sign for it!!
Let's show our united power!!
Don't just complaint!!
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that's not the key issue...Originally posted by OldAhPek:its not the amount of signatures
Who is gonna present this petition?
and present to who?
the main problem is that durai still has thoudsands of kidney patients at his mercy....
unless the govt step in and takeover NKF... durai would continue to rip singaporeans off using those kidney patients as his personal shield... this is a local form of TERRORISM!!
if you are a kidney patient... you will be living in perpetual terror with NKF under durai's thumb..
i urge the govt to act against him for the benefits of the kidney patients... dont let that durai continue becoming the sultan of NKF.
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9400 signatures already.... not bad at all.
I'm quite sure it can hit 10,000 by dinnertime.