I support Mr Durai
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Hi Guys,
Yes I do support Mr Durai, Why : Because I have worked there I know how relentlessly he worked for that organisation. Because I know if he had to work for a profit organisation he would have earned 10 times more than what he gets now. And if you still don't believe me I have an article from the Chronicle of Philanthrophy hopefully you can form your own opinion after hearing what experts say : http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v14/i24/24003301.htm.
Your ten dollars and my ten dollars do not mean a thing if they don't come together to help a needy.
40 years of his life when he worked relentlessly with little public support no one gave a thought to that. The money is not in his coffers but in the NKF Fund.
He has one of the best business practices in NKF. practices which are followed in large business houses like GE and Walmart and Nordstrom.
Training programs where an employee is taught practices which are taught in business schools like Harvard.
I understand he gets a huge amount of money but if you read the article you will know his counterparts in America earn much more than this. Have offices larger than his and have perks he can't dream of.
His dream was to make NKF a global organisation. Great personalities like Pele, Mr Jain (The Dean of Kellogs Business School), Infosys Chairman and the Mike G termed as the topmost direct mail fund raiser have visited and lauded NKF for its practices. We had interns and employees graduated from the Harvard Business School, CEIBS, Insead working in NKF.
You get monkeys if you pay peanuts. Will any one of us work for anything below our worth. We don't mind remaining jobless till the time we don't get something substantial and we expect people with brains grit and determination to work for salaries not worth them. Although
I am not working for NKF anymore I still support Mr Durai and I know Truth always prevails. If you read the article you will know that the head of Red Cross was pressurised to leave as well because of the amount she earned and I am sure that's what we will do to heads of charity organisations. We don't want our charity organisations to be as good as our Profit organisations where we hold shares as we don't get direct dividends on it.
I am sure you will have your own opinions about the salaries and the "Golden Tap".
and I am not sure if you are hating me for this. But the only question, I am asking myself is
Would we work for a charity organisation at 1/3rd the salary we would be getting in a business organisation?
Would I work 10 - 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year for 13 years in the same organisation without any rewards or increments? -
the damage is already done and your posting came a bit too late.
nothing is going to change the people's opinion of him. -
knn ra8865 never forget to add his pay is onli peanuts
dun forget
NKF is a charitable org Not an MNC !!!
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I see you are avoiding the tap issue.
I am sorry, but no huge amount of my money is going to someone other than the patients.
You guys didnt come clean with ur finances, and attempted to sue SPH for reporting what is right. And even maligned two three other peeps way back in the 90s.
Stop using his hard work as the only excuse to pooh pooh many nasty stuff u guys done -
maybe ra8865 is Durai himself or one of the lackeys who help themselves to 12 mth bonuses while " trying to save lives " at the same time knn
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ra8865:
You dun seem to get it do you?
The educated masses aren't disputing his 25K salary. They are neither doubting that he has done much charity work for NKF and probably brought NKF to the level it is now.
But it is his ethics and conduct throughout the proceedings that have drawn disgust, along with the evasive and dishonest side he showed regarding the 1st class airfare and 12-month bonus issues.
Afterwards, he did not step down of his own accord or unconditionally; instead, he asked for 'advice' on whether he should step down from Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan. Does that indicate he was still unwilling to do the 'right thing' as Vivian Balakrisnan observed?
The fact that he also preferred to harp on his achievements of the past 37 years instead of accepting the real reasons why he was 'forced' into relinquishing his post had 'brazen' and 'arrogance' written all over it. Clearly he is still in denial. He believes he has done no wrong and that as CEO of trustee's monies, he was 'entitled' to such creature comforts without weighing best value or consequence.
Legally, he is in the clear and perhaps he set out with good intentions. But he was devoid of humility and morality, and for a man running a charitable organisation, this was inevitable. -
seems like someone is brain-washed by the durain cult
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My aunt serves in the canteen near NKF headquarters, when those nurses ordered food from my aunt.
She noticed all nurses had a Rolex on their wrist. So out of curiosity, my aunt ask them if they earn alot. Those nurses got offended...so she explained that she saw all of them wearing rolexes.
Those nurses explained that it was a annual gift from NKF. End
My concern now is 1) whose money was used on these rolexes?
2) Could the supporters of Durai have other reasons to stand behind him? To me it is rather obvious why the fervent supporters. -
fark those nurse NKF subsidise patients so little yet give them Rolex !!! knnOriginally posted by M©+square:My aunt serves in the canteen near NKF headquarters, when those nurses ordered food from my aunt.
She noticed all nurses had a Rolex on their wrist. So out of curiosity, my aunt ask them if they earn alot. Those nurses got offended...so she explained that she saw all of them wearing rolexes.
Those nurses explained that it was a annual gift from NKF. End
My concern now is 1) whose money was used on these rolexes?
2) Could the supporters of Durai have other reasons to stand behind him? To me it is rather obvious why the fervent supporters. -
He was just a scapegoat.
I believe there is more to it.
How come MM didn't put his foot down to resolve this matter?
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1) Durai have directorships in other business firms too. Therefore its not 100% dedicated as you put it.
2) These so-called business firms are dubious. Some that are being raised up, include "Proton web", "Bonyad Marketing Industries Pte Ltd(which he claim is an Irian Charity organisation. What a name.....)" and many other companies which he admit having a foot on with other directors but NO business activities going on. In another word 'emptyshell' companies. Whether he use these channels to divert $$ (legally or illegaly) for his own benefit, i do not know
3) There is a delibrate intent to deceive the public. White lie is also a lie
4) (reading the court transcript) There are lotsa other information that Durai refuse disclose. Which according toe Durai : "I cannot recollect", "Its not material"
5) (personal opinions) I hate people who keep ranting "Wo shi hao ren"
6) Professionalism isnt guage by how much time and effort you poured in.
Doing the thing right is totally different from doing the right thing.
7) As a lawyer himself, he plays around with words (read the court transcript), and try to bring out issues like "privacy", "I personally believe", "its unmaterial". "that is the way how we operate".
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Obviously leaving Ant K F has not allowed your brain to recover. May i recommend that you undergo dialysis for your brain?Originally posted by ra8865:I am not working for NKF anymore I still support Mr Durai and I know Truth always prevails. If you read the article you will know that the head of Red Cross was pressurised to leave as well because of the amount she earned and I am sure that's what we will do to heads of charity organisations. We don't want our charity organisations to be as good as our Profit organisations where we hold shares as we don't get direct dividends on it. -
ya i think so also. but seem like now khaw take over they will just cover it upOriginally posted by M©+square:He was just a scapegoat.
I believe there is more to it.
How come MM didn't put his foot down to resolve this matter? -
Yup quite true.... Pls do not use his hard work to neutralise everything.
When people work 10 ~ 14 hours .. are you sure he is working or just plain surfing website or calling other people. Sometimes, going out with a minister on tea-break or long lunch 2-3hrs also consider working....
His salary and first class travel does not boil the singaporean's heart.. what boils the singaporeans' heart is the false statement they made to earn our empathy... such as... reserves going to last only 3 years.... a false report on the amt of pple... a false report on the cost of each treatment.... To this, how are you going to help him defend? This practice is common for evey company huh?
Do you know that all these false declarations are similiar to accounting irregularities... which will end up investigations by CAD and fined and jailed for 7 years....
Furthermore, although it is a pte charity group but they declare that the organisation is a non-profit organisation... if it is true in their declaration, how come Mrs Goh will say that they have a turnover of 100+ millions ~ And since they got so much reserves, how come many of the patients' applications are rejected? What are these reserves for? U mean future will have billions of pple get kidney problem then they will sudden come out with all the reserves to help. -
This is so bloody sad. The money that was donated for those suffering and those images on television and those who testify on national TV shedding real tears.....ended up on nurses wrist.Originally posted by crazy monkey:fark those nurse NKF subsidise patients so little yet give them Rolex !!! knn -
Another issue we all forgot to look at
There was this article which says Durai like to have saturday meetings with his staff where he would deliver his vision, well, of whatever the topic starter just said, akin to making NKF a world class organisation and sumthing like that
Is NKF already becoming a cult like organisation where peeps start to pledge loyalty to their leader?
Goodness....
Btw, can topic starter state which company exactly pay their CEOs $25,000 per month, together with 12 months bonus and all other luxuries?
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maybe when he is at nkf he spend 4 hrs on nkf work and rest on his private interest !!! tats why need to OT so much. knnOriginally posted by OldAhPek:1) Durai have directorships in other business firms too. Therefore its not 100% dedicated as you put it.
2) These so-called business firms are dubious. Some that are being raised up, include "Proton web", "Bonyad Marketing Industries Pte Ltd(which he claim is an Irian Charity organisation. What a name.....)" and many other companies which he admit having a foot on with other directors but NO business activities going on. In another word 'emptyshell' companies. Whether he use these channels to divert $$ (legally or illegaly) for his own benefit, i do not know
3) There is a delibrate intent to deceive the public. White lie is also a lie
4) (reading the court transcript) There are lotsa other information that Durai refuse disclose. Which according toe Durai : "I cannot recollect", "Its not material"
5) (personal opinions) I hate people who keep ranting "Wo shi hao ren"
6) Professionalism isnt guage by how much time and effort you poured in.
Doing the thing right is totally different from doing the right thing.
7) As a lawyer himself, he plays around with words (read the court transcript), and try to bring out issues like "privacy", "I personally believe", "its unmaterial". "that is the way how we operate".
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I'm more interested to know - Which volunteery fund raising organisation does that?Originally posted by laurence82:Another issue we all forgot to look at
There was this article which says Durai like to have saturday meetings with his staff where he would deliver his vision, well, of whatever the topic starter just said, akin to making NKF a world class organisation and sumthing like that
Is NKF already becoming a cult like organisation where peeps start to pledge loyalty to their leader?
Goodness....
Btw, can topic starter state >>>>which company<<<< exactly pay their CEOs $25,000 per month, together with 12 months bonus and all other luxuries?
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so its not only golden taps but golden watches as well. whole bloody org is rotten. dun anyone of them have a shred of conscience ? everyday parade the sick patients around to milk public sympathy while helping themselves to big fat bonuses at the same time. knnOriginally posted by M©+square:This is so bloody sad. The money that was donated for those suffering and those images on television and those who testify on national TV shedding real tears.....ended up on nurses wrist. -
what i try to do is to do a comparisonOriginally posted by M©+square:I'm more interested to know - Which volunteery fund raising organisation does that?
firstly, if a private company dont do that, that hell give no excuses for nkf to do that
and secondly, topic starter, i cant even rem his nick, state that durai works harder than some top paying CEOs...i wonder hoe he compare....
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Heard of the talk show in CNA last night?Originally posted by crazy monkey:so its not only golden taps but golden watches as well. whole bloody org is rotten. dun anyone of them have a shred of conscience ? everyday parade the sick patients around to milk public sympathy while helping themselves to big fat bonuses at the same time. knn
The guy from Moral society actually subtlely displayed his displeasure on NKF too.
I have to agree that emotional branding and marketting of NKF really won the hearts of many Singaporeans. They succeeded. -
Hi ra8865,
How much did Mr Durai pay u for this ? -
Ok got your point.Originally posted by laurence82:what i try to do is to do a comparison
firstly, if a private company dont do that, that hell give no excuses for nkf to do that
and secondly, topic starter, i cant even rem his nick, state that durai works harder than some top paying CEOs...i wonder hoe he compare.... 
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another point he make - the pay of CEO shd not be peg to size of org or reserve. end of the day its a charitable org the amt of pay must be acceptable to the public.Originally posted by M©+square:Heard of the talk show in CNA last night?
The guy from Moral society actually subtlely displayed his displeasure on NKF too.
I have to agree that emotional branding and marketting of NKF really won the hearts of many Singaporeans. They succeeded.
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Originally posted by BillyBong:
i agree, it was nvr his pay and bonus, sim wong hoo etc...got more than him i guess. yet no one is questioning his pay and some even like sim and other rich ppl for their charitable acts.
ra8865:
You dun seem to get it do you?
The educated masses aren't disputing his 25K salary. They are neither doubting that he has done much charity work for NKF and probably brought NKF to the level it is now.
But it is his ethics and conduct throughout the proceedings that have drawn disgust, along with the evasive and dishonest side he showed regarding the 1st class airfare and 12-month bonus issues.
Afterwards, he did not step down of his own accord or unconditionally; instead, he asked for 'advice' on whether he should step down from Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan. Does that indicate he was still unwilling to do the 'right thing' as Vivian Balakrisnan observed?
The fact that he also preferred to harp on his achievements of the past 37 years instead of accepting the real reasons why he was 'forced' into relinquishing his post had [b]'brazen' and 'arrogance' written all over it. Clearly he is still in denial. He believes he has done no wrong and that as CEO of trustee's monies, he was 'entitled' to such creature comforts without weighing best value or consequence.
Legally, he is in the clear and perhaps he set out with good intentions. But he was devoid of humility and morality, and for a man running a charitable organisation, this was inevitable.
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it is durai's attitude that brought him down. words like ' it is my private business' when asked abt his pay,etc...acted like a catalyst.