I support Mr Durai
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hmmmOriginally posted by M©+square:Heard of the talk show in CNA last night?
The guy from Moral society actually subtlely displayed his displeasure on NKF too.
I have to agree that emotional branding and marketting of NKF really won the hearts of many Singaporeans. They succeeded.
the public & govt suport them also...last time
i donated to the tins and in my school days help them to get donation by tins thinking is worth it.
Then when i start working i donate by giro without asking for gifts in return. signed for 1 yr but after the 1 yr they continue draw from my account till almost the second year then i realise and called them. they say as long as you have not write in the stop the donation, is assume you agree to continue and ths will continue to deduct. Then told that i cannot stop by phone call and only via email or written letter. Thus i wrote it but i was effective only from the following month.
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its very hard to compare him and sim wong hooOriginally posted by bismarck:i agree, it was nvr his pay and bonus, sim wong hoo etc...got more than him i guess. yet no one is questioning his pay and some even like sim and other rich ppl for their charitable acts.
it is durai's attitude that brought him down. words like ' it is my private business' when asked abt his pay,etc...acted like a catalyst.
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Yes,any kind souls out there who have 100% LOVE AND CARE FOR THE NEEDY WILL DO SO. Anyone with a charitable heart wont mind giving all his time in to save patients life and receive less salary and incentives,because THE TRUE HAPPINESS COMES FROM SEEING PATIENTS RECOVER,NOT FROM THE HUGE AMOUNT AND INCENTIVES U CAN EARN.Originally posted by ra8865:I am sure you will have your own opinions about the salaries and the "Golden Tap".
and I am not sure if you are hating me for this. But the only question, I am asking myself is
Would we work for a charity organisation at 1/3rd the salary we would be getting in a business organisation?
Would I work 10 - 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year for 13 years in the same organisation without any rewards or increments? -
u are right. i just named SWH because i cant recall the names of other rich chaps u see, nor name anyone whom i can compare ...maybe the reverend of ren ci ?Originally posted by laurence82:its very hard to compare him and sim wong hoo
Mr Sim owns the company, while durai is only a head of a charity organisation....
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Would we work for a charity organisation at 1/3rd the salary we would be getting in a business organisation?
Would I work 10 - 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year for 13 years in the same organisation without any rewards or increments?
Yes and Yes
We want charity workers who would work with a heart and driven by compasionate and not a fat paycheque and and big bonus.
Speak for yourself , there are other charities would have dedicated pple who doesnt run charity like vampric corporations like NKF.
Pple like you are fitted to work in a big MNC and climb up the corporate ladder like everyone else do, but dont do in the name of "saviour of pple" and doing kind deeds , coz at the end of the day , you will answer to the maker. -
If you work in an organisation that pay you 6-12 mths bonus, would you fight for your boss? I would. It is my rice bowl.
A couple of years ago, my friend responded to a tender from NKF, who wish to buy 20-30 PCs. That IT chief hinted that the contract would be given only if he (IT Chief)get back commission.
I never trust NKF and I always ask my mum not to donate but old pple, as usual, never listen. Sad!
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The thread starter has no further comments eh?
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its ok.i just feel that he overdid some of the stuff and pm goh's wife comments made it worse..
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I also support durex. The other brands not as smooth and lubricated.
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If a teacher teach for 30 years do a lot of good work but one day was caught molesting a student. will he be forgiven for all those years of good work ?
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WAHH rolex watch annual gift??
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screw that guy ......
fly first class and have close to half a million as salary..... -
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Please don't compare with American. American have rockets going to moon, space exporer to endless universal, space shuttles, best biotechnologies. They have people like Bill gates..... and so on. They have most effective workers' union, more democratic and so on....Originally posted by ra8865:Hi Guys,
Being in the media industry I am sure everyone is aware of what is being splashed in the newspapers for the past couple of days. I am sure if anyone in the group knows me the first person that would have come to your mind when seeing the word NKF is me.
Yes I do support Mr Durai, Why : Because I have worked there I know how relentlessly he worked for that organisation. Because I know if he had to work for a profit organisation he would have earned 10 times more than what he gets now. And if you still don't believe me I have an article from the Chronicle of Philanthrophy hopefully you can form your own opinion after hearing what experts say : http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v14/i24/24003301.htm.
Your ten dollars and my ten dollars do not mean a thing if they don't come together to help a needy.
40 years of his life when he worked relentlessly with little public support no one gave a thought to that. The money is not in his coffers but in the NKF Fund.
He has one of the best business practices in NKF. practices which are followed in large business houses like GE and Walmart and Nordstrom.
Training programs where an employee is taught practices which are taught in business schools like Harvard.
I understand he gets a huge amount of money but if you read the article you will know his counterparts in America earn much more than this. Have offices larger than his and have perks he can't dream of.
His dream was to make NKF a global organisation. Great personalities like Pele, Mr Jain (The Dean of Kellogs Business School), Infosys Chairman and the Mike G termed as the topmost direct mail fund raiser have visited and lauded NKF for its practices. We had interns and employees graduated from the Harvard Business School, CEIBS, Insead working in NKF.
You get monkeys if you pay peanuts. Will any one of us work for anything below our worth. We don't mind remaining jobless till the time we don't get something substantial and we expect people with brains grit and determination to work for salaries not worth them. Although
I am not working for NKF anymore I still support Mr Durai and I know Truth always prevails. If you read the article you will know that the head of Red Cross was pressurised to leave as well because of the amount she earned and I am sure that's what we will do to heads of charity organisations. We don't want our charity organisations to be as good as our Profit organisations where we hold shares as we don't get direct dividends on it.
I am sure you will have your own opinions about the salaries and the "Golden Tap".
and I am not sure if you are hating me for this. But the only question, I am asking myself is
Would we work for a charity organisation at 1/3rd the salary we would be getting in a business organisation?
Would I work 10 - 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year for 13 years in the same organisation without any rewards or increments?
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actually his pay is no problem....
we gotta pay well to avoid possible corruption.
qulams with his sky-high bonuses during tough times, his statements or rather misstatements and misleading info he given out, his unrepentent attitude, his mismanagement and the potential many more "golden taps" that have happened at nkf but not yet surfaced up.... -
Originally posted by crazy monkey:maybe ra8865 is Durai himself or one of the lackeys who help themselves to 12 mth bonuses while " trying to save lives " at the same time knn
Plus Durai's money comes from people's charity, wats there to boast about? -
oh by the way... i remember that previously in the past, corporations and family-run businesses liked to give rolex as long service award to deserving employees when they retire...upon 20 - 30 years of service and due to cutting costs, not many corporations and businesses do that now and definitely I feel the nkf nurses don't deserve the rolexes.....(if the rumour is true)...
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WAH!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by crazy monkey:
I LOVE YOU!
how abt sending it toe ST? -
Finally this cold truth should be obvious to you by now that NKF operate as a BUSINESS and NOT as a CHARITY despite the fact that its money is from PUBLIC CHARITY.Originally posted by ra8865:
Hi Guys,
Being in the media industry I am sure everyone is aware of what is being splashed in the newspapers for the past couple of days. I am sure if anyone in the group knows methe first person that would have come to your mind when seeing the word NKF is me. [/quote]
Unfortunately, none of us in THIS group know about you, or who you are.:
Firstly, from the chronicle of events of Durai and the NKF, it will seem that during the 1970s - Durai was active in charity work while being an undergraduate at the NUS, and he went on to build up NKF with a group of like minded Doctors - who all had the vision of the possibility of "managing" the huge sums of monies that are available from the charitable hearts of Singaporeans.
Yes I do support Mr Durai, Why : Because I have worked there I know how relentlessly he worked for that organisation. Because I know if he had to work for a profit organisation he would have earned 10 times more than what he gets now. And if you still don't believe me I have an article from the Chronicle of Philanthrophy hopefully you can form your own opinion after hearing what experts say : http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v14/i24/24003301.htm.
From the now very obvious evasive nature of Durai, we should be asking - was his vision to help the kidney patients an altruistic one, or was it the opportunity to help himself as he manage a multi-million dollar charity ?
He should be working very hard at NKF to ensure his interests are protected - and that of all those who support him.
I remembered the ridiculous challenge that Durai and NKF made towards KDF when it was created to provide similar support to Singaporeans, which challenged and rival NKF for public charity and support.
If Durai and NKF could make all efforts to deride and belittle KDF, surely he must have seen a huge threat coming to dilute the revenues to NKF.
Why would he feel this threat from KDF unless his vision for NKF is less then charitable ?
Secondly, the refered Chronicle of Philanthrophy did not mention NKF as being a philanthrophic organisation.
NKF was and IS run as a BUSINESS - (see below), not as a charitable organisation - as it charges kidney patients $300 for the services used, which led to a revenue of $25Million dollars - despite the fact that charity funds had accumulated to $265Million in the NKF Reserves.:
The money was given by the charitable hearts of all Singaporeans - from those who earned a meagre income as a Dishwasher at the hawker centre, the roadsweeper, garbage collector, as well as those retrenched workers, and workers who received pay and CPF cuts, to those big hearts of those with fat wallets.
Your ten dollars and my ten dollars do not mean a thing if they don't come together to help a needy.
40 years of his life when he worked relentlessly with little public support no one gave a thought to that. The money is not in his coffers but in the NKF Fund.
Surely the message is quite clear that the monies are there as a support from the PUBLIC - (who also contributed in unpaid services to collect public charity, including the Media Corp Stars performing at no fee), and this alone should disqualify your comment that he worked with "LITTLE PUBLIC SUPPORT".
"The money is not in his coffers but in the NKF Fund"
Perhaps you should look at the fact that the money was moved from the NKF Fund to his coffers by the "approved" movement of 12 MONTHS BONUS during 2003 and 2004 - when Singaporeans were experiencing PAY and CPF CUTS, and some with no bonus being paid during these years !!!This is an outrageous scandal by itself !!!:
He has one of the best business practices in NKF. practices which are followed in large business houses like GE and Walmart and Nordstrom.
Training programs where an employee is taught practices which are taught in business schools like Harvard.
I understand he gets a huge amount of money but if you read the article you will know his counterparts in America earn much more than this. Have offices larger than his and have perks he can't dream of.
His dream was to make NKF a global organisation. Great personalities like Pele, Mr Jain (The Dean of Kellogs Business School), Infosys Chairman and the Mike G termed as the topmost direct mail fund raiser have visited and lauded NKF for its practices. We had interns and employees graduated from the Harvard Business School, CEIBS, Insead working in NKF.
It seems that his greedy dream knows no bounds - if he can accumulate $265Million from "Little Red Dot", one can understand his ambition to grow NKF globally.
Surely your comparison of NKF to Kellogs, Infosys is out of place; and the comments of NKF Services by those great names that you referred to had certainly praised the concept of public service of NKF to the needy patients and not about its business practises.
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You get monkeys if you pay peanuts. Will any one of us work for anything below our worth. We don't mind remaining jobless till the time we don't get something substantial and we expect people with brains grit and determination to work for salaries not worth them. Although I am not working for NKF anymore I still support Mr Durai and I know Truth always prevails. If you read the article you will know that the head of Red Cross was pressurised to leave as well because of the amount she earned and I am sure that's what we will do to heads of charity organisations. We don't want our charity organisations to be as good as our Profit organisations where we hold shares as we don't get direct dividends on it.
I am sure you will have your own opinions about the salaries and the "Golden Tap".
and I am not sure if you are hating me for this. But the only question, I am asking myself is
Would we work for a charity organisation at 1/3rd the salary we would be getting in a business organisation?
Would I work 10 - 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year for 13 years in the same organisation without any rewards or increments?
It all depends on how big a monkey one wish to have with the peanuts that one pay.
Monkeys have been known to be trained with peanuts to climb up trees to pluck bigger coconuts - and those monkeys were more charitable in their hearts towards humans who mistreat and misunderstand them !!!
For 1/3rd the salary, if there are any openings at NKF, it will probably absorb all those who are presently jobless and have been looking for a job for the last ONE YEAR !!!
Surely with the "philanthrophic heart" of Durai toward the NKF staff, so as to ensure their undyingly blind loyalty, there will be many willing applicants to work in NKF !!!
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