Compesation for serviceman who die in line of duty
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Bo pian , must defend ourselves , if not life under malaysia , kena tramped under the foot by bumiputras, you want that to happen to you ? singaporean chinese and indians? work hard lah!
now malaysia even considering giving more rights to bumiputras , if they suddenly 1 day march over and demand that singapore give the same rights to all bumiputras , i think we'll even be worse off then peasants. -
$10,000 is better then nothing , at least its 1/60 of a peanut
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Remember , NSmen , don't give ur life up during training for SAF , not worth it, $10,000 not enough to sustain your parents when your old.
don't run til you get heart attack and die. if not get paid $10,000 or should i say 1/60 of a peanut -
It was a mistake to join Malaysia in 1963 only to be kicked out after less than 2 years. Couldn't we have waited until 1978 to break ties with London, join KL and gain independence along with Harare (Zimbabwe became independent in 1980)? Best if we remained part of the British empire until 2003, joined KL and are on the verge of being booted out this October, with CSJ as inaugural PM.Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:Bo pian , must defend ourselves , if not life under malaysia , kena tramped under the foot by bumiputras, you want that to happen to you ? singaporean chinese and indians? work hard lah! -
[quote]Originally posted by surfer188:
[b]From what I "See & Hear":
If non-regular who died on training, SAF pays <$10,000. That's all.
If regular who died on training, SAF pays the salary until the end of contract minus off all other allowance plus some amount >$20,000 I think.
true....if regular died while training, salary paid until end of contract PLUS another $30,000 n a piece of flag to cover ur casket. got another $30k + from CPF oso.
for NSF i not very sure. -
It will be lesser then peanuts. imagine our lives worth lesser then peanuts...Originally posted by IcedLemon:[quote]Originally posted by surfer188:
[b]From what I "See & Hear":
If non-regular who died on training, SAF pays <$10,000. That's all.
If regular who died on training, SAF pays the salary until the end of contract minus off all other allowance plus some amount >$20,000 I think.
true....if regular died while training, salary paid until end of contract PLUS another $30,000 n a piece of flag to cover ur casket. got another $30k + from CPF oso.
for NSF i not very sure.
Singaporeans..what have you been doing in your lives?? -
Was the accident a repeat of the same accident ten years ago, in which it had happened during rappeling when the helicopter pilot released the ropes too early ?
If it had happened again, the family of this soldier should sue MINDEF and the Pilot for what had happened.
How much compensation was paid to the Foreign Government or Family of the foreign soldier who had died at this same accident ?
How much did the Foreign Government pay to the family of that foreign soldier who also died ? -
Well... Even so, by 1969, we might still end up kicked out...Originally posted by iveco:It was a mistake to join Malaysia in 1963 only to be kicked out after less than 2 years. Couldn't we have waited until 1978 to break ties with London, join KL and gain independence along with Harare (Zimbabwe became independent in 1980)? Best if we remained part of the British empire until 2003, joined KL and are on the verge of being booted out this October, with CSJ as inaugural PM.
But think of it, w/o joining and seperated, would we have today? -
Originally posted by sbst275:
If Singapore had stayed out of Malaysia, perhaps we will not have the "old political baggage" of the two years of friction as part of a Malaysian State.
Well... Even so, by 1969, we might still end up kicked out...
But think of it, w/o joining and seperated, would we have today?
If LKY had not been so adamant about getting Singapore to join Malaysia, and having done so, IF he had respected his tacit agreement with Tunku Abdual Rahman in not participating in Peninsular Politics, IF he had been less abrasive in his dealings with the "Bumiputra" issue - perhaps the present relationship between Malaysia-Singapore could have been more cordial, and similar to the relationship between Malaysia-Brunei.
In his memoirs, LKY had written of his regret in not understanding and fully appreciating the wisdom of the previous Sultan of Brunei, in not wanting to have Brunei join Malaysia.
The previous Sultan of Brunei (who is the father of the present one) had asked Tunku Abdul Rahman if the Sultan will be part of the Council of Rulers - (formed by the Sultans from the various States of Peninsular Malaya), and thus will be eligible to be voted in turn to be the KING of Malaysia.
The same question could have been asked to the Tunku, if LKY will ever have the opportunity to be the PM of Malaysia - and perhaps there will be less suspicion about LKY's ambition from the Political Elites of UMNO.
Unfortunately, opportunities were missed, and we are straddled with the heavy baggage of past politics that will continue to weigh on our relationship with Malaysia, even if both sides make the best efforts to sweep history away. -
Britain didn't dream of kicking us out of the Empire. In fact, they thought we weren't ready for independence. By joining Malaysia, we gave the impression that we had some form backing. After all, Singapore is like the Gibraltar of the East in some sense.Originally posted by sbst275:Well... Even so, by 1969, we might still end up kicked out...
But think of it, w/o joining and seperated, would we have today? -
Oh dear, it looks like my insurance company is going to pay less than a peanut if I suddenly die right now...
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Originally posted by Lowclassman:
know then you know that govt are blood suckers. a bit late i think cos most of your hard earned money already with them liao.
We commoners Siongaporen are not even worth to call a peanut. cos singapore PAP member's wife made peanut cost [b]S$600,000.00
Fcuking hell!!! All along I thought NKF patients are getting reasonable subsidy; due the fact all $$$ are from we donors. The truth now is the patients are getting only about 20% or less subsidy and the remaining, the patients got to fork out from their own pockets with 5% FREAKING GST!!!!!!!!!!! Blood sucking gov...really freaking..........[/b] -
Do you know the SAF pays VERY VERY HIGH for peace makers mission?
For officer, it's something $20,000 per month to be on oversea peace mission.
Do you know that a lot of Army Guys apply on every peace mission because of the HIGH $?
If I could apply I also want to go. Who don't want $20,000 per month? -
only if you come back in one piece.Originally posted by surfer188:Do you know the SAF pays VERY VERY HIGH for peace makers mission?
For officer, it's something $20,000 per month to be on oversea peace mission.
Do you know that a lot of Army Guys apply on every peace mission because of the HIGH $?
If I could apply I also want to go. Who don't want $20,000 per month? -
all ranks ? nsf can go or not ?Originally posted by surfer188:Do you know the SAF pays VERY VERY HIGH for peace makers mission?
For officer, it's something $20,000 per month to be on oversea peace mission.
Do you know that a lot of Army Guys apply on every peace mission because of the HIGH $?
If I could apply I also want to go. Who don't want $20,000 per month? -
No... it NOT very ture at all... it all depend where you will be at... not all are paid VERY VERY HIGH... some are just higher than normal pay.Originally posted by surfer188:Do you know the SAF pays VERY VERY HIGH for peace makers mission?
For officer, it's something $20,000 per month to be on oversea peace mission.
Do you know that a lot of Army Guys apply on every peace mission because of the HIGH $?
If I could apply I also want to go. Who don't want $20,000 per month? -
Sg is a country born out of commerce, now its leader rule the country by commerce. We have seen that money is the bottomline for the implementation of policies and that our politics is all about money. Examples of this would be superfluous for me to point out.
Now, the question is why would I defend this company called Sg Inc? Would you take to arms and picket fences to protest the closing down of your company that you are working for???
The possibility of invasion is so remote that those not in the army look down on those forced to serve it and those in it abuse the system. Why would I bother taking to arms when this company is threaten?
Perhaps someone can outline the benefits of defending this Sg Inc?
War comes, all reservists get called back. Taxes increases to "pay for war". PAP flies to an allied nation with their families to set up goverment in exile so as to "better rule without blackmail".
Generals fly to the same allied country so as to "better advise the leaders" and "manage the war better".
If we win the war, ministers will increase their pay to compensate them for the "hardship incurred". Police and military forces will curb and limit peasent freedom to "prevent reoccurance of war and unrest". All land and property will be confiscated by the state to "help bring the economy back".
All privacy will be removed to "weed out dissendents and enemies of the state".
So, once again, why should I defend Sg Inc? -
Bravo! Nothing could be furhter from that. Singapore is run like a corporation than a nation. Money & profit are everything.Originally posted by SilverPal:Sg is a country born out of commerce, now its leader rule the country by commerce. We have seen that money is the bottomline for the implementation of policies and that our politics is all about money. Examples of this would be superfluous for me to point out.
Now, the question is why would I defend this company called Sg Inc? Would you take to arms and picket fences to protest the closing down of your company that you are working for???
The possibility of invasion is so remote that those not in the army look down on those forced to serve it and those in it abuse the system. Why would I bother taking to arms when this company is threaten?
Perhaps someone can outline the benefits of defending this Sg Inc?
War comes, all reservists get called back. Taxes increases to "pay for war". PAP flies to an allied nation with their families to set up goverment in exile so as to "better rule without blackmail".
Generals fly to the same allied country so as to "better advise the leaders" and "manage the war better".
If we win the war, ministers will increase their pay to compensate them for the "hardship incurred". Police and military forces will curb and limit peasent freedom to "prevent reoccurance of war and unrest". All land and property will be confiscated by the state to "help bring the economy back".
All privacy will be removed to "weed out dissendents and enemies of the state".
So, once again, why should I defend Sg Inc?
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for a million-dollar org, 600K is peanuts...Originally posted by crazy monkey:$200 000 for a BILLION dollar org
for a BILLION-dollar org, 200K should be peanut SHELLS!!!! -
Precisely, Singapore Inc. This was what mentioned by loong loong in the past erection.....by pap. We have to run our country like a company!!!Originally posted by iveco:Bravo! Nothing could be furhter from that. Singapore is run like a corporation than a nation. Money & profit are everything. -
it's encouraging to learn that the life of a soldier who protects their majesty's jewels is worth $200k.
but maybe they worried that compensating too generously will set a precedence for soldiers to deliberately die so as to exploit compensation -
Does anybody know the compensation amount given by Mindef to the family of the dunked-n-drown soldier?
The Defence Minister said it's not appropriate for Mindef to disclose the amount accepted by the family. Why the secrecy and not transparency?
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Why would anyone want to die deliberately? Such people must be crazy.Originally posted by boy in blues:but maybe they worried that compensating too generously will set a precedence for soldiers to deliberately die so as to exploit compensation -
I believe there are....Becuase their families are financially poor and so they sacrifice themselves....Same as with other poopr coiuntries where the girls take to prostitution to feed their familiesOriginally posted by iveco:Why would anyone want to die deliberately? Such people must be crazy. -
nothing is transparent in singapore.Originally posted by macjoe:Does anybody know the compensation amount given by Mindef to the family of the dunked-n-drown soldier?
The Defence Minister said it's not appropriate for Mindef to disclose the amount accepted by the family. Why the secrecy and not transparency?