WTF LTA !!! cyclist hurt by stupid device
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Well.. It is quite difficult for them to check everywhere... The best is that the contractors get their things done in a proper mannerOriginally posted by deathscythe99:And LTA has to be blamed also...
Never ENSURE
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ahem the can't see barrier theory works both ways if he can't see the barrier it doesn't make sense for him to be able to see a person on foot easily too therefore he is in fact putting possible lives at risk.Originally posted by crazy monkey:a speed barrier could be better design.
ya right the cyclist is suppose to push the bicycle across the brigde.
but when its 6:30 am in the morning when he could be the only person using the bridge, that would be the smartest thing he would do.
i wonder if there is any predestrian who has not cross a junction when the light is red on a dessert juction in his life.
i am not a cyclist btw.
not sure about the bridge but i guess the main issue would be visibility rather than barrier design(i pointing to lighting of the bridge itself rather than call for the barrier to be a lamp post) that caused the accident. that and the fact that the cyclist was probably going very fast and not taking enough caution.
reiterate that i feel sorry for the guy but i do have to say that its partly if not mostly his fualt. we all break rules but when we break the rules we have to be careful. -
LTA is stoopid...design something like that...paint it green some more...why not lay the entire area with AP mines or even better make the barrier transparent...Originally posted by Bloop...:I agree the design could be better, but then again... designs could always be better.
I think the fact that it's 6.30 in the morning doesn't mean he can cycle on the bridge. Cause if that's the case, then what? Is 7am ok? 8am? 9?
Or you're saying it's because there's no one on the bridge? What if there was one person? Two? Three? What's the limit before they get off their bikes? Do you think a person who pushes rules won't keep pushing as long and as far as they can?
Can we drive on the sidewalk it it's 6.30 am and there is no one there?
Pedestrains do break rules too... and if one did run a red light and because of that, hit a bar on the other side of the road and hurt himself. Is it really the LTA's fault? -
the cyclist obviously has himself to blame for the accident.
LTA was also wrong as there was no visible sign erected to warn cyclist. -
an expensive mistake .. so sad
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The more disturbing issue here is not the design of that barrier, stupid as it is. It is rather the attitude of LTA, which seems to mirror that of NKF - ARROGANCE and think-they-can-do-no-wrong.
Just look at their responses to that accident.
NOT A SINGLE FUCKING CONSOLING WORD TO THE FAMILIES OF THAT GUY!!!!
And faster than you can say LTA, they started pointing fingers at the contractor and said they won't remove the barrier.
If you can recall, LTA and those dogs who work there have shown the same lousy rotten arrogant shitty and fucking disgusting attitude in every single past mishap they have caused particularly the Nicoll Highway collapse.
So, ladies and gentlemen, pls open your eyes. We have another NKF in LTA. -
i fully agree.
LTA is really a screwup. -
Oh sure...we'll see when the next lamp post falls on you. And I'll be the 1st to step out and say, "It is quite difficult for them to check everywhere..."Originally posted by sbst275:Well.. It is quite difficult for them to check everywhere... The best is that the contractors get their things done in a proper manner
LTA said the barrier has been in use for 3 years and nothing has happened till today.
Well, well, so imagine I'm a government engineer and I leave a manhole open along some pathway that nobody uses. For 2 years, nothing happens and suddenly, a passerby falls inside and get paralysed.
So whose fault is it?
What a joke. -
personal thoughts: they should have put the thing higher up on the ramp so that you'll not be able to ride down more then 2-3m before you hit that thing
that way you can stop them from going down , and even if they still crash into it the injuries wouldn't be that much and if possible install another one in the lower mid section so the riders would have the chance to joy ride the rest of the way down -
Brother, everywhere is already having such barrier...Originally posted by Profounder:Oh sure...we'll see when the next lamp post falls on you. And I'll be the 1st to step out and say, "It is quite difficult for them to check everywhere..."
LTA said the barrier has been in use for 3 years and nothing has happened till today.
Well, well, so imagine I'm a government engineer and I leave a manhole open along some pathway that nobody uses. For 2 years, nothing happens and suddenly, a passerby falls inside and get paralysed.
So whose fault is it?
What a joke.
Only screwed up prob was the contractor NEVER finished the installation at the above of the bridge...
Falls to me? Hey hello, I know you like to curse LTA... But, if you work @ NParks, LTA or HDB, you think you sure you are able to check all everyday? Think as you are in their shoes and NOT be a wet blanket -
Whatever design the "Barrier" may take, it will always be a danger to users who DO NOT or CANNOT learn to obey the intentions of any Authority.
To minimise the liability in enforcing their intention, LTA could have minimise the danger to others.
Why is the "Barrier" painted GREY ?
Was it to blend the "Barrier" into the darkness, much like the grey paint on a Navy ship that allows it to hide in the dark or blend into the horizon ?
If the "Barrier" is to serve as an obstacle, it should be brightly painted or made more obvious.
If the "Barrier" is to serve as a deterrent and trap, then LTA had been very effective in its attempt to hit those who abuse all the earlier warnings not to ride across the pedestrian bridge - (Is this a Pedestrian Bridge, or simply a Connecting Bridge for all users ?) -
Grey was the oringal colour of the pole what..Originally posted by Atobe:Whatever design the "Barrier" may take, it will always be a danger to users who DO NOT or CANNOT learn to obey the intentions of any Authority.
To minimise the liability in enforcing their intention, LTA could have minimise the danger to others.
Why is the "Barrier" painted GREY ?
Was it to blend the "Barrier" into the darkness, much like the grey paint on a Navy ship that allows it to hide in the dark or blend into the horizon ?
If the "Barrier" is to serve as an obstacle, it should be brightly painted or made more obvious.
If the "Barrier" is to serve as a deterrent and trap, then LTA had been very effective in its attempt to hit those who abuse all the earlier warnings not to ride across the pedestrian bridge - (Is this a Pedestrian Bridge, or simply a Connecting Bridge for all users ?)
It is supposed to be green...
The contractor just done the job 1/2 way.. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
The Navy used "GREY" to hide their ships in the open Sea.
Grey was the oringal colour of the pole what..
It is supposed to be green...
The contractor just done the job 1/2 way..
The Army used "GREEN" to hide men and equipment on Land.
What was on LTA's mind to paint "grey" as a base, and "green" as the final color on this barrier ? -
anyone know who design that device? local, FT or another peanuts man?
is he paid peanuts as well? who going to open this can of worms now?
so sad? who is going to help the 2 kids now when volunteer need to be paid peanuts for charity work?
all will want to volunteer but who pay now?
PAP PAP PAP... bAb bAb bAb.... -
i think its green so that it would fit in with the colour scheme of the rest of the structure which would then fit into the idea of SG as a garden cityOriginally posted by Atobe:The Navy used "GREY" to hide their ships in the open Sea.
The Army used "GREEN" to hide men and equipment on Land.
What was on LTA's mind to paint "grey" as a base, and "green" as the final color on this barrier ? -
The bar, when it is made, it is grey...Originally posted by Atobe:The Navy used "GREY" to hide their ships in the open Sea.
The Army used "GREEN" to hide men and equipment on Land.
What was on LTA's mind to paint "grey" as a base, and "green" as the final color on this barrier ?
Anyway... Bef a green coat is made, a initally white coating has to be applied -
another "peanuts" projects....
isn't a few hump cheaper than the steel barrier where steel $$$ had been going up for the pass few years.
another case of miss management of fund. -
'Cos they dun care, that's why they say it's difficult to check everywhere.Originally posted by sbst275:Well.. It is quite difficult for them to check everywhere... The best is that the contractors get their things done in a proper manner
Look at Nicoll Highway. -
Depends on how it goes...Originally posted by deathscythe99:'Cos they dun care, that's why they say it's difficult to check everywhere.
Look at Nicoll Highway.
But most cases, it is really bo chap... -
stupid device....they should use slightly elevated ramps on the ground the same way the use it to slow down cars
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I agree with you. If you go againist the law on your own impulse, you can't blame anyone else but yourself.Originally posted by Bloop...:Yes I have. I've ran across roads that I'm not supposed to. I've tripped and fell across a chain barrier at the Tampines mall too because of that. I don't blame the LTA for that chain being there.
I take the blame for not seeing that chain because I was jaywalking.
Simple as that - Don't place blame on someone else's shoulders when you get hurt doing something you're not suppose to do.
If a traffic cop had run out and stuck his foot out in front of me, that's a diff story.
Same in this case, it's not like the LTA hired someone to hide behind a bush with a rod. Then jump out and hit cyclists on their heads.
I feel sad by the injury for the cyclist and his family, but that does not hide the fact he is doing something that he is not suppose to do
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government tender is always the lowest bidder wins. thats why there are so many problems.Originally posted by Joshua1975:anyone know who design that device? local, FT or another peanuts man?
is he paid peanuts as well? who going to open this can of worms now?
so sad? who is going to help the 2 kids now when volunteer need to be paid peanuts for charity work?
all will want to volunteer but who pay now?
PAP PAP PAP... bAb bAb bAb.... -
Depends on timing...Originally posted by dragg:government tender is always the lowest bidder wins. thats why there are so many problems.
Even back in 1984, govt took lowest bid to build MRT... No prob -
yea...what is next?Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:i think its green so that it would fit in with the colour scheme of the rest of the structure which would then fit into the idea of SG as a garden city
decorate the traffic lights at all junctions with leaves and flowers? why not propose the following:
for all LED indicators
change red for "stop" to dark green for "stop"
change green for "proceed" to light green for "proceed"
so when accident happens...blame it on the idiot who beats the traffic light... -
But some major projects ran into problems. Flats in Fernvale were half-completed, road improvement works halted midway, and of course the infamous Nicoll Highway collapse.Originally posted by sbst275:Depends on timing...
Even back in 1984, govt took lowest bid to build MRT... No prob