Why PR is so easy to get in sgp
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Anyone can explain why is PR so easy to obtain. PR get the perks better than citizen. y??? Also 3rd world country get the pr...do we need them rather than tose from aust, uk, us...???
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Not true. One of my collegues married a china woman more than 2 yrs ago. Till now still unable to get her PR. Maybe due to the respective department knowing that she used to work as a KTV hostess in joo chiat......Originally posted by inmedia:Anyone can explain why is PR so easy to obtain. PR get the perks better than citizen. y??? Also 3rd world country get the pr...do we need them rather than tose from aust, uk, us...??? -
How to get singapore PR?
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Malaysian woman more easily to get PR once they married a sgorean.
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Strictly speaking Singapore is a 3rd world country as well you know.Originally posted by inmedia:Anyone can explain why is PR so easy to obtain. PR get the perks better than citizen. y??? Also 3rd world country get the pr...do we need them rather than tose from aust, uk, us...??? 
But anyway yah, good question. I can understand how folks from UK/US/Aust may actually bring in some money as PRs here but the rest...?
Yah you have skilled workers and all but seriously, i thought we are short on jobs here? It's quite weird, how Singapore is so open about welcoming 'talents' when IMO, we don't really need them. -
Becoz our country is "cheap",our ministers is "cheapskate",thats y our citizenship(including PR) is so easy to get.But anyway,those foreign workers who migrate to Singapore as PR dont really treasure the citizenship.They use it as an easy tools to work in here,after earning enough money,they will withdraw their "lumpsum working money" n return to their country n enjoy.
While others treat this country as a "springboard" to migrate to other western countries like Australia n U.S.No one really give a damn about this "tiny little island".Not to mention about our "narrow-minded" ministers.Even Singaporeans are trying to get out of this god damn place,not to mention PR. -
how easy is your easy??
as Manager433 said, some ppl spent yrs here but still cant get PR.
u can check out the ICA(former known as SIR) website to see what is required to obtaion PR in singapore.
Sg govt only accpet wat they want, that's why for some ppl it's easy to get PR, some is difficult of even impossible.
one type of ppl sg govt accpet is damn rich ppl who invest big money here, real big money. They get PR as long as they are willing to invest here, that will create job vacancies here and pay tax to sg govt.
another type is young talent. Foreign teens who get into our Poly, once they graduate and get dipolma, they get thier PR.
And old talents also, but harder than young talents, ppl who have long working experience in certain trade and have very professional skill also got thier chance to obtain PR, as long as they are willing to work here, which means somehow or rather sg ppl will learn such skill from them.
For foreign labour without special skills or certs, they only get work permit/employment pass in sg, it's very hard for them to get PR even they work here for very long. -
China ppl get PR very easily as long as they don't have any bad records here.
Even if they are not educated, can't speak English, they will still be given PR status. This doesn't make sense at all. How to live in Singapore without knowing English??? Our literacy is so high that even taxi drivers and postman can speak proper English. I know of a China girl who came here to marry a local. Within months only, she got her PR status. She can't even read a single English word.
My filipina friends aren't so lucky. All degree holders, holding good professional jobs here. More than two years already, still no PR. One of them recently gave birth to a baby here and the baby is registered as a Philippine citizen, not Singaporean. -
that i think depends on who's the husband(maybe depends on luck too?), my fren's neighbour who owns a fishball noddle stall in Yishun, got a china wife also, he kept trying to apply PR for his China wife but still failed to obtain it after two yrs. Then he seek help from his GRC(i think that area is ChongPang), the GRC get to know the situation and agree to write a letter for him to go along with the application forms. That piece of paper with the GRC's signature really helps, he got the PR for his China wife after that. Seems like Sg govt dun worry about these ladies as long as someone here can support her financially so that she wont become illegal prostitute in geylang.Originally posted by Honeybunz:China ppl get PR very easily as long as they don't have any bad records here.
Even if they are not educated, can't speak English, they will still be given PR status. This doesn't make sense at all. How to live in Singapore without knowing English??? Our literacy is so high that even taxi drivers and postman can speak proper English. I know of a China girl who came here to marry a local. Within months only, she got her PR status. She can't even read a single English word.
My filipina friends aren't so lucky. All degree holders, holding good professional jobs here. More than two years already, still no PR. One of them recently gave birth to a baby here and the baby is registered as a Philippine citizen, not Singaporean.
For guys, i dun think sg govt accept a china guy who dun speak english, no special skills(sg imports china and other countries' sports talent), no cert, no money, no working experience, etc.... foreign guys must have something that the sg govt in order to get PR. -
The problem here is that many PRCs are in fake marriages. You know, they get married to someone here to get PR status and after that work in Geylang. Actually it is very hard on ICA to determine whether they are real applicants for PR Status a not.
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We need these people to litter and pollute our garden city so as to create employment to our cleaners.Originally posted by Honeybunz:China ppl get PR very easily as long as they don't have any bad records here.
Even if they are not educated, can't speak English, they will still be given PR status. This doesn't make sense at all. How to live in Singapore without knowing English??? Our literacy is so high that even taxi drivers and postman can speak proper English. I know of a China girl who came here to marry a local. Within months only, she got her PR status. She can't even read a single English word.
My filipina friends aren't so lucky. All degree holders, holding good professional jobs here. More than two years already, still no PR. One of them recently gave birth to a baby here and the baby is registered as a Philippine citizen, not Singaporean.
My son asked me a question while watching the national day parade:
" The Samsui women are pioneers that help build Singapore in the nation building process so they are honoured and remembered in this parade. So 10 years later will be the Bangladesh turn right?" I can't help having a vision of a float with a smiling Bangladesh in our 50th national day. -
one of the reasons might be because Singapore needs foreign talent.
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Simple reason: the Singapore government wants to retain the Lion City's Chinese majority (for possible security reasons). They don't want Filipinos to become too numerous, even though they may have better qualifications than the PRCs as it could dilute the proportion of ethnic Chinese.Originally posted by Honeybunz:China ppl get PR very easily as long as they don't have any bad records here.
Even if they are not educated, can't speak English, they will still be given PR status. This doesn't make sense at all. How to live in Singapore without knowing English??? Our literacy is so high that even taxi drivers and postman can speak proper English. I know of a China girl who came here to marry a local. Within months only, she got her PR status. She can't even read a single English word. -
Law of averages.
Out of 1 thousand PRs, there might be a chance that 1 will be truly loyal to Singapore.
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Can you tell us what make you say that PR is so easy to obtain and what better perks PR get over citizens? Don't you think you have to substantiate your claims before you get forumites to discuss?Originally posted by inmedia:Anyone can explain why is PR so easy to obtain. PR get the perks better than citizen. y??? Also 3rd world country get the pr...do we need them rather than tose from aust, uk, us...??? -
Good for the gahmen. We will have more quitters when the China PRs move to other countries after utilising our benefits here.Originally posted by iveco:Simple reason: the Singapore government wants to retain the Lion City's Chinese majority (for possible security reasons). They don't want Filipinos to become too numerous, even though they may have better qualifications than the PRCs as it could dilute the proportion of ethnic Chinese. -
A number of my former (PRC) colleagues (obtained S'pore PR) either migrated to North America or returned to PRC after living for a while in S'pore. They leave because they believed North America offered them better prospect or their children are better off with the education system in PRC.
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I have lots of friend just graduate from poly and they got the PR. As for the perks of those PR, they are choose the % of CPF contribution for first year of work. After that they can withdraw all $ in cpf when they decide to terminate the PR status. and enjoy the perk at homeland. I bet you must be a PR inorder to be so protective. Well...fight for you rights....Originally posted by pearlie27:Can you tell us what make you say that PR is so easy to obtain and what better perks PR get over citizens? Don't you think you have to substantiate your claims before you get forumites to discuss? -
you are kidding me, right? it took me 4 Fucking years to get PR.Originally posted by inmedia:Anyone can explain why is PR so easy to obtain. PR get the perks better than citizen. y??? Also 3rd world country get the pr...do we need them rather than tose from aust, uk, us...??? -
raven wat nationality de?Originally posted by the.raven:you are kidding me, right? it took me 4 Fucking years to get PR.
by default, all diploma / degree holders who graduate from singapore are offered PR once they graduate from their course. -
i knew a storeman during my NS days, recent immigrant from
PRC, poor bugger barely knew his ABCs, got bullied left right centre of course .... but fact remains ... how did he got his PR in the first place ? ....
what some in preceeding replies said is correct .... lots of immigrants treat Singapore as a stepping stone, a case of "didn't get a fish, will settle for a shrimp" kind of thinking .... anyone remember the case in the papers sometime ago when some PRC fellows conned their fellow countrymen with a bogus agency promising australian PR status ? ... what one woman said still stays with me ... "I would never have given up my Singaporean PR status if i had know that this was a scam " (paraphrased) ...... but the underlying fact is that these people, migrants from first world or third, are economic migrants .... people who have placed their economic well-being above any tugs of the heart-strings they might have felt about their motherland, so what do you expect ? .... that they'll fight and die for singapore ? ..... if a better opportunity presents itself to them, or the grass stops "growing" in singapore ... of course they'll scram from the place .....
having said that ... there will be a few who have decided to sink their roots into singapore .... we musn't discount these people ... our forefathers were immigrants themselves too, remember .... which i why i felt a certain empathy towards that storeman .... and tried to help him when i could .... serving NS shows he's willing to take up a stake in the security of our country ...
and for those singaporeans thinking of quitting .... surprise ! ... you realise that you too, would become economic migrants once you run off to australia, US or whatever ..... believe me .... I'm currently studying in Canada .... and my canadian friends here too, have conversations similar to this thread here ... lots of them are weary of the waves of economic refugees and immigrants that hit Canada's shores every year ... taxing the society's infrastructure and clustering among themselves .... creating ethnic ghettos ..... and feel more affinity towards their home countries than canada ? ... (during the tsunami crisis, the canadian indian community was very vociferous in criticizing the canadian goverment's response to the crisis ... how would we feel if say, recent malaysian immigrants badger the goverment to help out with the haze situation in malaysia right now ? ..... ) Canadians are generally nice and politically correct ... so no one will publicly voice such things out for fear of being labelled a racist ... (a common weapon of certain groups of minorities over here .... i shall not mention which ones .... scream racism everytime something doesn't go their way ...) but when the beer flows in a pub and the tongues loosen up .... this is how they feel about immigrants .....
bottomline ... no one, in any society, wants people who just leaches off it .... be they native born or migrants ...(would be quitters take note ! ... ) that is my stand too, with regards to immigrants ..... come ! stay ! ... sink your roots here .... take up a stake in our society ... make this your country ...... you're more than welcome .....
but if you just treat Singapore as a transitory place ... then kindly bugger off asap ........ -
wah wat did u edited?
i lazy to read thru again >.< -
nothing ... a spelling mistake ....Originally posted by shinta:wah wat did u edited?
i lazy to read thru again >.< -
oh.. no wonderOriginally posted by Fatum:nothing ... a spelling mistake ....
after i post my reply, i read thru -
Base on your reply, four year is gd enough...by right base on your standard and vugarities you will not even be grant a PR. Shame on you as a PR for singapore...Originally posted by the.raven:you are kidding me, right? it took me 4 Fucking years to get PR.