DId the education blinded the young Singaporeans?
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I am confused by what is going on in the politics and the decesion-making in Sinagpore. In Social Studies, I am taught a set of values which makes Sngapore a success. A chapter was devoted to the principals of good governance in Singapore. The crux of the chapter comprises of 4 principals, Principal of Pragamtism, Meritocracy, transparnecy and fairness. These principals helps to explain policies like the ERP and stuffs. It sounds logical but from what i have read here, it doesn't corroborate. So can anyone give me an accurate view about the political climate and the actual problem in Singapore. Please support with evidence too. And is the education meant to mislead young Singaporeans? Is it the matrix( like what nsdef had said) to keep us under control?
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There is no right and actual view... everything is subjected to interpretation.
What u see on the books are Politically Correct version of the interpretation/information. -
Yeah , they brainwashed you in school to make you less an Entreprenuer, then you fail to find a job outside because your father is a Nobody in business. You understood what networking and politics is all about .Originally posted by delonicdevil:I am confused by what is going on in the politics and the decesion-making in Sinagpore. In Social Studies, I am taught a set of values which makes Sngapore a success. A chapter was devoted to the principals of good governance in Singapore. The crux of the chapter comprises of 4 principals, Principal of Pragamtism, Meritocracy, transparnecy and fairness. These principals helps to explain policies like the ERP and stuffs. It sounds logical but from what i have read here, it doesn't corroborate. So can anyone give me an accurate view about the political climate and the actual problem in Singapore. Please support with evidence too. And is the education meant to mislead young Singaporeans? Is it the matrix( like what nsdef had said) to keep us under control?
Lies to keep you paying for what you don't need and what they made you need to pay for. -
i am impressed. you 'o' level nia?Originally posted by sgboy2004:There is no right and actual view... everything is subjected to interpretation.
What u see on the books are Politically Correct version of the interpretation/information. -
Firstly, education is supposed to help one's mind to grow, and experiences transferred to an enquiring mind - (especially suitable when it begins as an empty vessel) .Originally posted by delonicdevil:I am confused by what is going on in the politics and the decesion-making in Sinagpore. In Social Studies, I am taught a set of values which makes Sngapore a success. A chapter was devoted to the principals of good governance in Singapore. The crux of the chapter comprises of 4 principals, Principal of Pragamtism, Meritocracy, transparnecy and fairness. These principals helps to explain policies like the ERP and stuffs. It sounds logical but from what i have read here, it doesn't corroborate. So can anyone give me an accurate view about the political climate and the actual problem in Singapore. Please support with evidence too. And is the education meant to mislead young Singaporeans? Is it the matrix( like what nsdef had said) to keep us under control?
Books are written by those who are supposed to be knowledgeable, and the users of these books will create exams to ensure that what is read, is 'correctly' learnt.
Exams are made difficult so as to ensure the minimum few will succeed, to compete with those who wrote the Books.
The 4 principLES - Principle of Pragmatism, Meritocracy, Transparency and Fairness are created with very high ideals, so as to provide a minimum guideline for a good system of Governance.
These Principles are intended to be applied on others, and not to be applied on the Authors, who developed these standards.
The dutiful acceptance of the first two very practical and laudable Principles of Pragmatism and Meritocracy by Singaporeans, is to ensure obedience for the sake of peaceful progress.
Unfortunately, it also knocks the wind out of any attempts to pursue Transparency and Fairness, which will be disruptive to orderly rule, and supposedly affect national security; and the mention - of these two principles in the same context as the first two - is merely for the purpose of window dressing and alay concern by any notice of their absence.
The Ruling Party a.k.a the present Singapore Government has always held the position of -
'Do as I Say, BUT DO NOT do as I Do' .
What they say in idealistic terms to gain support, may not necessarily be pragmatic when the same ideals can undermine their position.
Consider the following powerful speeches made by MM LKY, when he was on the Opposition bench in 1956; and an even more inspiring speech in 1964, when Singapore was part of Malaysia :
“But either we believe in democracy or we do not. If we do, then we must say categorically, without qualification, that no restraint from any democratic process, other than by ordinary law of the land, should be allowed. If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then they should have the right of free association, of free speech, of free publication. Then no law should permit those democratic processes to be set at naught. . .”
In our 40th Birthday, despite these 'Freedom' being enshrined in the Singapore Constitution, there are newer legislations passed by the Ruling Party - during their long period of grip on power - in which amendments to the Constitution now make it illegal to gather in public in groups of more then 5 persons, publication licenses are subject to Government a.k.a Ruling Party's review and consideration, if you are labeled as a Communist (even if no evidence is produced) your freedom to associate and political freedom as a Human is strictly and severely restricted.
In a subsequent speech made by LKY, when Singapore was part of the Malaysian federation, Lee articulated his feelings about freedom of the press and media.
”Let us get down to fundamentals. Is this an open or a closed society? Is it a society where men can preach ideas—the novel, unorthodox, heresies. . . where there is a constant contest for men’s hearts and minds on the basis of what is right, of what is just, or what is in the national interest? Or is it a closed society where the mass media—the newspapers, journals, publications, TV, radio. . . feed men’s minds with a constant drone of sycophantic support for a particular orthodox philosophy? ”
How ironical that MM LKY could demand - from the Malaysian Federal Government - such liberties to be exercised when Singapore was part of Malaysia, and now with INDEPENDENCE for the last 40 years, our mass media is shackled and tightly controlled by the political machinery created by LKY.
With 40 years of Pragmatic rule based on Meritocracy, it is unfortunate that Fairness and Transparency have been lost - as these last two principles are less pragmatic and do not merit any consideration as it undermines the first principle.
Do you get it ?
It explains the reason for the Ruling Party a.k.a the present Singapore Government has been less keen about being totally transparent with its policies, and fair about its practises. -
I guess what you are asking is did/does Singaporeans benefit from the 4 principles?Originally posted by delonicdevil:The crux of the chapter comprises of 4 principals, Principal of Pragamtism, Meritocracy, transparnecy and fairness. These principals helps to explain policies like the ERP and stuffs. It sounds logical but from what i have read here, it doesn't corroborate. So can anyone give me an accurate view about the political climate and the actual problem in Singapore. Please support with evidence too. And is the education meant to mislead young Singaporeans? Is it the matrix( like what nsdef had said) to keep us under control?
See with your own eyes and feel with your pocket and heart to test if the 4 principles benefited you.
Just like you get a very pro gov media, you get a very anti gov view down here. Whatever evidence quoted here, how can you be sure the forumites are not lying? The same applies to what you learnt in school and read on the newspaper. You are never sure.
Best is to see with your own eyes whether your parents, siblings, relatives, friends, even strangers on the mrt and buses, are smiling more as time passes by.
Feel with your pocket, how much money are you getting now. Is it getting more or losing more?
Feel with your heart, esp if you just went to watch the national day fireworks. Did you watch the fire work because you are KS or is it because you sincerely are thinking of celebrating with the nation and scream your heart out that you love Singapore? -
Only after NS did i realise what i learn in pri. and sec school were all brainwash. The education system could be made to make u dumb. It doesnt encourage creativity or critical thinking. But all is not lost yet. What they tried to do could be all undone in NS where u become disillusioned. I say NS is good in this aspect. The whole plan backfires
It is only now that they are adopting a western styled education system when they knew they had a creativity drain with their style of fkced up education system. If u seen in other countries, children are made to learn creatively and not just memorising facts and figures.
But all is not lost because of the internet where u get to read thngs from other countries. Times have changed. it is no longer our parents' time where "I say , u do" kind of thing. -
told u liao, mi copied from some other forums lahOriginally posted by dragg:i am impressed. you 'o' level nia?
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courtesy of napoleon bonarparte, education is also a tool for brainwashing people into a certain ideology the government wants to propagate.
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This is one of the reason why u see girls in Singapore are so shallow minded and materialistic. They didnt go to NS and get "disillusioned" unlike us guys.
They are brought by on values of meritocracy hence their high expectations of mates -
In Politics, there is no White or Black. Just shades of Gray.
Mixture of Black & White. -
Welcome to the world of politics.
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SIMPLE. What you say is NOT = what ya do. OK?Originally posted by delonicdevil:I am confused by what is going on in the politics and the decesion-making in Sinagpore. In Social Studies, I am taught a set of values which makes Sngapore a success. A chapter was devoted to the principals of good governance in Singapore. The crux of the chapter comprises of 4 principals, Principal of Pragamtism, Meritocracy, transparnecy and fairness. These principals helps to explain policies like the ERP and stuffs. It sounds logical but from what i have read here, it doesn't corroborate. So can anyone give me an accurate view about the political climate and the actual problem in Singapore. Please support with evidence too. And is the education meant to mislead young Singaporeans? Is it the matrix( like what nsdef had said) to keep us under control?
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Congratulations NEO, U made it
Wlcome to the real world -
u calling mi?Originally posted by About A GaL:Congratulations NEO, U made it
Wlcome to the real world
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Oh my god! They are teaching such things to kids?Originally posted by delonicdevil:... In Social Studies, I am taught a set of values which makes Sngapore a success. A chapter was devoted to the principals of good governance in Singapore. The crux of the chapter comprises of 4 principals, Principal of Pragamtism, Meritocracy, transparnecy and fairness. These principals helps to explain policies like the ERP and stuffs. ..
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Education by the MOE do blind students into thinking PAP is the solution to everything in Singapore.
But then, some students begin to grow up and begin to realise all is not what it seems to be. -
Most students once they reach the tertiary stage,they can see the real world.. No longer blinded..
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Sme tertiary student still living n the mind controlled environment.Originally posted by stellazio:Most students once they reach the tertiary stage,they can see the real world.. No longer blinded.. -
No longer blinded.. but still unable to do anything about it but live with the system and accept the undeniable truth.
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Let's keep a open mind on the subject of education.
Certainly, any other country in the world will 'brainwash' their children about the glorious history befitting national education. Our social studies taught us about the founding of Modern Singapore and our heritage. However, it neglected to mention the Trashy work William Farquhar was given and prefered to heap praise on Raffles despite having minimal knowledge or administration. (In fact he pretty much screwed up the early stages of government)
This is something only age will educate, the knowledge you gain from your early years is just basic background with a warped sense of information. -
Hey delonicdevil, you are on the right track! You do have an enquiring mind and do not accept what you are told without questioning.
Keep reading, and read from various sources and with an open mind. As we don't live in a black and white world no one view is absolutely accurate. Also, if we are open to multiple viewpoints we could make more intelligent choices and become more creative in problem-solving. -
I agree to u! Girls in my school are super shallow. I was selected to do a NEsurvey and i peep at the girl beside me and the girl beside her. Both of the them tick all the option under the 'What u like about Singapore' column and i remember the options includes a "stable government" and "a free society". Worst still, they tick almost nothing under the what u don't like section. When I criticise them for being stupid, they called me 'evil' . Observe how they use evil... are simply disgusting!Originally posted by About A GaL:This is one of the reason why u see girls in Singapore are so shallow minded and materialistic. They didnt go to NS and get "disillusioned" unlike us guys.
They are brought by on values of meritocracy hence their high expectations of mates
By the way, in what way does NS makes one disllusioned? Shouldn't it be the contrary? -
I take it as u never finished NS eh? NS is an overall impression of how the govt works.Originally posted by delonicdevil:I agree to u! Girls in my school are super shallow. I was selected to do a NEsurvey and i peep at the girl beside me and the girl beside her. Both of the them tick all the option under the 'What u like about Singapore' column and i remember the options includes a "stable government" and "a free society". Worst still, they tick almost nothing under the what u don't like section. When I criticise them for being stupid, they called me 'evil' . Observe how they use evil... are simply disgusting!
By the way, in what way does NS makes one disllusioned? Shouldn't it be the contrary? -
he said in his school which means he's still a kid. he actually does NE which means he has yet to face the full extent of government brainwashing aka NS.Originally posted by About A GaL:I take it as u never finished NS eh? NS is an overall impression of how the govt works. i take it that you were never a literature student?