“we cried… my father lying there foaming and having seizures
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“we cried… my father lying there foaming and having seizures, with no one to attend to him, has been haunting me since…”
ST Forum: FULL HOUSE AT HOSPITALS
Worst stroke possible but dad made to wait 6 hours (18.8.2005)
I CAN empathise fully with (Ms Rodziah Shaari ("Seven hour wait at SGH for bed for sick dad"; ST, Aug 13).
I had similar encounters in Singapore General Hospital (SGH). My dad was sent to the A&E department three times in two months because of stroke and, each time, my family had to wait at least six hours before he was pushed to a ward.
I can understand that the hospital is short of staff and we have to wait for every thing. But to make a patient wait hours for a bed is unforgiveable, especially when the patient is in critical condition.
The third time my dad was taken to SGH was also his last. When I drove him to SGH, he was already paralysed and could not speak. The A&E doctors were quick to attend to him because of the urgency of his condition.
They ordered an immediate scan to see how badly his brain had been affected by the stroke, after which he was left unattended in a corner to await the results.
I could see that my dad was getting weaker as time went by. About two to three hours later, when the results came out, the doctors confirmed that he had suffered a stroke I again and had to be admitted.
It took another hour or two for the admission staff to tell s us that my dad had to wait as no bed was available in the neurology ward.
When we checked on him in the observation area, he was in a serious state. He was having fits and barely conscious, and his mouth was; foaming. No one attended to him.
It was only when we cried that a patient service officer quickly picked up my dad's file and called for someone to push him away. . When my dad finally got to the ward, it was past 2am. And we had arrived at the A&E department about 7pm; it took more than six hours before my dad was seen by a neurologist.
If my dad had been taken to the ward earlier and been treated by a neurologist, his chances of living might be higher.
The neurologist told us that my dad had the worst kind of stroke anyone could get. He also told my family to quickly consider having a special injection administered as his condition was deteriorating by the minute since the onset of stroke at 5.45pm at home.
We took no more than 10 minutes to reach a decision. And to think that six hours were wasted in the A&E department.
The image of my father lying there foaming and having seizures, with no one to attend to him, has been haunting me since. Sadly, he was pronounced brain dead the next day.
I appreciate the doctors in the A&E department for their sense of urgency, and the doctors in the neurology ward who tried their best to save my father.
But I did not detect the, same sense of urgency in hospital staff who were at the front line, doing admission administration and ferrying of patients. I saw faces filled with weariness and reluctance rather than urgency and compassion.
I agree with Ms Rodziah that it seemed acceptable to the hospital for patients to wait hours for a bed - and specialised treatment and care. If Singapore wants to be a top-notch medical hub, how can we condone this kind of work attitude, and hours of waiting in the emergency department?
Tan Tze Yee (Ms)
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why do i have a feeling that the insanity of consultants caused this?
all over, organisations have been hiring consultants who have no idea what or how the organisation is run to "streamline" their processes...
the result is that "all fat" is trimmed...
however, this means that the staff is worked at 100% and when some crisis happens, the organisation is hopelessly unable to cope... because they are at their maximum capacity already...
it has happened to my organisation...
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Ms Rodziah Shaari only has fate to blame as she is not rich or influencial.
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regardless, all people should be treated without preferential treatment at general hospital..rich people can go private clinics.Originally posted by Cindyfeh:Ms Rodziah Shaari only has fate to blame as she is not rich or influencial.
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as i've learnt all my life in my workplace, what should happen and what actually happens are usually mutually exclusive...Originally posted by alexkusu:regardless, all people should be treated ithout preferential treatment at general hospital..rich people can go private clinics.
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yah....those armchair people dunno a fark wat is going on at the bottom and then roll out this roll out dat....when u feedback they will give u the following 'autogenerated' repliesOriginally posted by the Bear:why do i have a feeling that the insanity of consultants caused this?
all over, organisations have been hiring consultants who have no idea what or how the organisation is run to "streamline" their processes...
the result is that "all fat" is trimmed...
however, this means that the staff is worked at 100% and when some crisis happens, the organisation is hopelessly unable to cope... because they are at their maximum capacity already...
it has happened to my organisation...
i can see it happening to others...
"teething problem, it will be ok after awhile" <--- it will be ok cos nobody will even bother to complain cos its pointless
"inconvenience is expected, it will take care of itself after the change is complete" <--- yeah sure, lipservice i oso know
"pls feedback this to the committee etc etc etc" <--- yeah sure, u just want others to hob the trouble instead of u.
"we must look things in the long run and shouldn't focus on such petty things" <--- oh yeah ? how can u even run when u can't even walk at all...yet another lipservice...
its common and this is why our economy is like now....
golden rule : "don't fix wat is not broken" -
I thought that when M&M went UK, he complained about the suitation in UK and commented that this will not happen in Singapore.
see below
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2004/yax-357.htm -
UK? u can't compare UK to sg! In UK u don't have to pay a single Fucking cent for medical treatment!
Anyways thats singapore for u. Its all about looking good to your superiors rather than actually doing the best job u can. -
about the UK.. just asking... what is the income tax rate there?
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about 30 to 40% i think. Higher if u're filthy rich. Wots the income tax rate like in sg?Originally posted by the Bear:about the UK.. just asking... what is the income tax rate there? -
Part of the speech
So, Mrs Lee had to go to the NHS hospital nearest to the Four Seasons Hotel where they were staying - a free facility called the Royal London Hospital - and join the queue.
"We waited 45 minutes for the ambulance for a 10-minute drive," said Mr Lee in his first public appearance since the couple returned on Friday.
"In Singapore, within half-an-hour, you would be in SGH (Singapore General Hospital), TTSH (Tan Tock Seng Hospital) ... and within one-and-a-half to two hours flat, you'd know what went wrong."
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Because MM Lee only gets to see what the bosses of the hospitals, the healthcare minister and dept heads, WANT him to see! He doesn't ACTUALLY SEE WHAT REALLY GOES ON.Originally posted by SevenEleven:Part of the speech
So, Mrs Lee had to go to the NHS hospital nearest to the Four Seasons Hotel where they were staying - a free facility called the Royal London Hospital - and join the queue.
"We waited 45 minutes for the ambulance for a 10-minute drive," said Mr Lee in his first public appearance since the couple returned on Friday.
"In Singapore, within half-an-hour, you would be in SGH (Singapore General Hospital), TTSH (Tan Tock Seng Hospital) ... and within one-and-a-half to two hours flat, you'd know what went wrong."
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screw the bureaucracy and administration crap
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well, it's staggered...
up to $20k, nothing
the next $10k, 3.75%
the next $10k, 5.75%
the next $40k, 8.75%
the next $80k, 14.5%
the next $160k, 18%
after $320k, 21%Originally posted by HENG@:about 30 to 40% i think. Higher if u're filthy rich. Wots the income tax rate like in sg? -
Oh. One of the 3 blind mice.Originally posted by HENG@:Because MM Lee only gets to see what the bosses of the hospitals, the healthcare minister and dept heads, WANT him to see! He doesn't ACTUALLY SEE WHAT REALLY GOES ON.
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he's big... so not mouse..
rat more likely
but we digress...
i wonder if it is too much to ask the elite who want to lead the country to try living like an average joe one month in the year without his cronies and hangers-on, taking the MRT and all that..
so they know what it is like for Mr Joe Average and Ms Jane Ordinary.. -
u mean if u earn 20k a year u dun have to pay income tax?Originally posted by the Bear:well, it's staggered...
up to $20k, nothing
the next $10k, 3.75%
the next $10k, 5.75%
the next $40k, 8.75%
the next $80k, 14.5%
the next $160k, 18%
after $320k, 21% -
simple sentences.. the staffs aint to be blame.. its the management.Originally posted by bic_cherry:“we cried… my father lying there foaming and having seizures, with no one to attend to him, has been haunting me since…”
ST Forum: FULL HOUSE AT HOSPITALS
Worst stroke possible but dad made to wait 6 hours (18.8.2005)
I CAN empathise fully with (Ms Rodziah Shaari ("Seven hour wait at SGH for bed for sick dad"; ST, Aug 13).
I had similar encounters in Singapore General Hospital (SGH). My dad was sent to the A&E department three times in two months because of stroke and, each time, my family had to wait at least six hours before he was pushed to a ward.
I can understand that the hospital is short of staff and we have to wait for every thing. But to make a patient wait hours for a bed is unforgiveable, especially when the patient is in critical condition.
The third time my dad was taken to SGH was also his last. When I drove him to SGH, he was already paralysed and could not speak. The A&E doctors were quick to attend to him because of the urgency of his condition.
They ordered an immediate scan to see how badly his brain had been affected by the stroke, after which he was left unattended in a corner to await the results.
I could see that my dad was getting weaker as time went by. About two to three hours later, when the results came out, the doctors confirmed that he had suffered a stroke I again and had to be admitted.
It took another hour or two for the admission staff to tell s us that my dad had to wait as no bed was available in the neurology ward.
When we checked on him in the observation area, he was in a serious state. He was having fits and barely conscious, and his mouth was; foaming. No one attended to him.
It was only when we cried that a patient service officer quickly picked up my dad's file and called for someone to push him away. . When my dad finally got to the ward, it was past 2am. And we had arrived at the A&E department about 7pm; it took more than six hours before my dad was seen by a neurologist.
If my dad had been taken to the ward earlier and been treated by a neurologist, his chances of living might be higher.
The neurologist told us that my dad had the worst kind of stroke anyone could get. He also told my family to quickly consider having a special injection administered as his condition was deteriorating by the minute since the onset of stroke at 5.45pm at home.
We took no more than 10 minutes to reach a decision. And to think that six hours were wasted in the A&E department.
The image of my father lying there foaming and having seizures, with no one to attend to him, has been haunting me since. Sadly, he was pronounced brain dead the next day.
I appreciate the doctors in the A&E department for their sense of urgency, and the doctors in the neurology ward who tried their best to save my father.
But I did not detect the, same sense of urgency in hospital staff who were at the front line, doing admission administration and ferrying of patients. I saw faces filled with weariness and reluctance rather than urgency and compassion.
I agree with Ms Rodziah that it seemed acceptable to the hospital for patients to wait hours for a bed - and specialised treatment and care. If Singapore wants to be a top-notch medical hub, how can we condone this kind of work attitude, and hours of waiting in the emergency department?
Tan Tze Yee (Ms)
Copyright @ 2005 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.
ask wat mentioned the staffs are weariness.. maybe lack to insuffi.. staffing...
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yup..
that portion is tax-free.. the next $10k is taxed at 3.75%
then if you earn $35,000, then the tax is $375 + 5.75% of $5,000
give you the site from IRAS... click here => Individual Tax RatesOriginally posted by HENG@:u mean if u earn 20k a year u dun have to pay income tax? -
Originally posted by SevenEleven:Oh. One of the 3 blind mice.
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oh so it means if i earn say 40k a year, 20k won't be taxed, 10k will be taxed at 3.75% and 10k will be taxed at 5.75%? a bit complicated...Originally posted by the Bear:yup..
that portion is tax-free.. the next $10k is taxed at 3.75%
then if you earn $35,000, then the tax is $375 + 5.75% of $5,000
give you the site from IRAS... click here => Individual Tax Rates -
most countries have staggered taxation... it's to "help out the poor"Originally posted by HENG@:oh so it means if i earn say 40k a year, 20k won't be taxed, 10k will be taxed at 3.75% and 10k will be taxed at 5.75%? a bit complicated...
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its kinda like that here, but if the more u earn the more tax u pay from your whole pay i think.Originally posted by the Bear:most countries have staggered taxation... it's to "help out the poor" -
okay.. now.. connect the high taxes with the "not one cent need be paid for health care"
geddit?
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oh..i thought singapore was one of the countries that u pay less tax the more you earn. More like encourage ppl to be rich..maybe it was Hk.Originally posted by the Bear:most countries have staggered taxation... it's to "help out the poor"