[b]Australia: From First World to Third World[/b]
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Is Australia right to question Singapore justice?
Crime
*Australia is number 1 for burglarly, per capita, compared to 54 other countries.
*Australia is number 1 for car theft, per capita, compared to 55 other countries.
*Australia is number 3 for rape, per capita, South Africa and Seychelles number 1 & 2.
Society
*1/3 of 13-14 year olds are barely literate (statement by Aust. Govt. Minister).
*17% of Australians over 14 years used illegal drugs in the past year.
*29% of 12-15 year olds consumed alcohol in the past week.
*3.2% of Australians use methamphetamine (United States rate 0.6%)
*10% of 20-29 year olds used methamphetamine recently. -
Statistics can tuned one... and filter here and there..
There are over 150 countries in the world why only compare Aus to over 50+ countries? -
and ur source being?
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what abt singapore?First world or 3rd world?
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Singapore ia not a first or third world but a hybrid world. It has a two-tier society comprising the governing elites mainly expensively paid civil servants and polticians who are living in the the 1st world. The rich people live alongside the elites and are quite beholden to them.Originally posted by ceecookie:what abt singapore?First world or 3rd world?
Then there is a second tier of under-class who are driven by the system to pay for everything to support the 1st tier. The underclass earn only suppressed third world wages in the name of competitions but they are forced to pay all the 1st world costs.
The 1st world elites are surviving well and comfortably by taxing and recovering all costs from the majority without contributing to entrepreneurship, job creation and that is what the politicians want so as to support them ever happily thereafter. -
*The source of stats............. United Nations and Australian Government
*These were the countries compared by the United Nations -
Those are some funny conclusions.
Of course there's an underclass - when you've got two people, regardless of how close they are in status, there will already be an underclass.
I don't see your figures leading to the conclusion that the welfare system is specifically to blame, and if drug dealers are so hard to convict, where are your figures for that? Unlike some places, the Australian justice system does not presume guilt, and looking at Indonesia, the presumption of guilt is doing little, if any, to stop the flow of drugs in places like Bali.
Given the strength of the Australian dollar and how well its economy has survived the events of recent years in relation to its neighbouring countries, the idea that Australia is going from First to Third World is completely laughable, especially in light of Singapore's slide in previous years.
Do take note that you're talking about reported crime rates, rather than actual crime rates. Ergo, a lower reported crime rate in another country may be the result of less faith in law enforcement, rather than lower rates of incidence per se.
Besides, I'd rather have my house broken into or car stolen than be assaulted (9 other countries rated higher), killed (10 countries higher), robbed (14 countries higher) or kidnapped (so many countries higher that Oz didn't even make the list).
By the way, Cuba has reported a 100% literacy rate to UNESCO - does that make Cuba a First World country?
The numbers you have posted, unfortunately, make no contribution whatsoever to your conclusions. I would suggest you develop some literacy in statictics before proceeding to embarrass yourself any further. -
koalaaaa,
Just an observation.
Since you only have 3 posts to your name, it seems like you must have created this account just to take a swipe at Australia. Not only that, you also chose the nick koalaaaa, which obviously has something to do with one of the Australian national emblem, the koala bear.
I'm wondering, do you eyes turn all red and watery when you see people leaving for Australia? -
Statistics are usually lies.
Australia would be 3rd world when Pauline Hanson becomes pm -
Hey! Whaddaya mean "when"?!Originally posted by alexkusu:Statistics are usually lies.
Australia would be 3rd world when Pauline Hanson becomes pm
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u knw... in the no-so-distant futureOriginally posted by Gedanken:Hey! Whaddaya mean "when"?! 
oh well, im safe where i am -
You feel safe with Helen Clark at the wheel? Do you guys still have an air force over there?Originally posted by alexkusu:u knw... in the no-so-distant future
oh well, im safe where i am -
we have cessnas...we will be fine. Who wants to fly all the war here to attack us anyways? fiji?Originally posted by Gedanken:You feel safe with Helen Clark at the wheel? Do you guys still have an air force over there? -
With that accent, how's anybody going to know when you've surrendered and stop shooting?
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Excuse me, our english is much more eloquent than aussies.... except those rural farmers, or isolated few. But I guess Aust will come protect us at times of need right? RIGHT!
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Oh, so THAT's where my tax dollars go!
And you guys still talk funny! -
nothing wrong with rape if you like itOriginally posted by koalaaaa:[b]
*Australia is number 3 for rape, per capita, South Africa and Seychelles number 1 & 2.
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another piece of pap propaganda to stop the inevitable mass exodus to australia.
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Originally posted by koalaaaa:
you forgot that the US has a population 7 times that of australia.
*3.2% of Australians use methamphetamine (United States rate 0.6%) -
try not to get shot tomorrow okay?Originally posted by vito_corleone:another piece of pap propaganda to stop the inevitable mass exodus to australia. -
They wont be happy for too long......They already leave a bad names for themselves n their descedant to come,they are no elites whatsoever.They are only a bunch of stupid dictators who repeat a tragic history of their "ancestors".Originally posted by robertteh:Singapore ia not a first or third world but a hybrid world. It has a two-tier society comprising the governing elites mainly expensively paid civil servants and polticians who are living in the the 1st world. The rich people live alongside the elites and are quite beholden to them.
Then there is a second tier of under-class who are driven by the system to pay for everything to support the 1st tier. The underclass earn only suppressed third world wages in the name of competitions but they are forced to pay all the 1st world costs.
The 1st world elites are surviving well and comfortably by taxing and recovering all costs from the majority without contributing to entrepreneurship, job creation and that is what the politicians want so as to support them ever happily thereafter.
Do u know why those PAP leaders know dictators wont have good endings and yet follow their footsteps?Becoz every dictator will thought that they are "smarter" than their former ancestors,that is why they always repeat history.Smart ppl learned from history and amend their ways,only stupid ppl keep repeating history.So our dear PAP leaders are not elites!!!! -
i'm still alive and kickin.Originally posted by thinger:try not to get shot tomorrow okay? -
* This is a percentage of the population...... The Australian rate is more than 5 times that of the United StatesOriginally posted by vito_corleone:you forgot that the US has a population 7 times that of australia. 
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*What an honour for my post to be labelled PAP propaganda... ThanksOriginally posted by vito_corleone:another piece of pap propaganda to stop the inevitable mass exodus to australia. 
* I'm Aussie..... and live among the section of the community mentioned and would welcome (even beg!) for people with some Balls to migrate here and start instilling some decent values back into our community.
*I have lived in Singapore and a PAP type government would sure sort out some of the problems in Australia. -
not the way you put it when i was there