Singapore dont have the quality n quantity to bring in......
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Foreign talents.Why?Becoz if a country wants to attract foreign talents,she must possess some attractive qualities for foreigners to work and eventually migrate n stay at that place.
Take for instance,U.S.A n Australia,why many ppl from all around the world wanted to work n stay there?Reasons is becoz they are developed countries,high-salary based,good social welfare if u become their citizens(at least better than Singapore,which our government only know how to exploit their ppl),vast land,big market n democratic politics(This can attract ppl from communist countries such as mainland China n Singapore).
But let us look at what our country possess,the size of our country is soooo small.In international language or what our dear Lou Ah Goh's wife say,our country size is "peanut"!!!By bringing in so many foreigners,our populations will become "over-crowded".(P.S.Some ppl should practise swimming now becoz one day we might migrate to the sea
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Also,we have limited market n job market which are becoming obvious in recent years.This will bring in social problems.Moreover,our politics are not transparent,which also make it least attractive to foreigners.So when our country leaders like Lou Ah Lee,Lou Ah Goh n Siao Ah Loong say want to bring in foreign talents,they must ask themselves,do they have enough "quality n quantity" to attract those foreigners or not,ALAMAK!!!! -
Already, Singapore is so cramped for a start. With all hte foreign talents they are bringing in, soon there won't even be a place to stand.
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Thats right,that is also the reason why Lee Kuan Yew discouraged ppl to born more children in the 70's n 80's.Becoz he also fear that Singapore might not have enough land to support the population.(Of coz,we now know his plan had fail becoz Chinese is too obedient n really born less baby,but Malay n Indian dont give a damn about his plan n continue to increase "production" )
Until Goh Chok Tong take over PM,he suddenly "act smart" and bring in alot of so-called "foreign talents" without examine the condition of our country.Perhaps he thought that we are as big as the U.S.A or Australia and we have the quality to attract foreign talents both economically n politically.But then,this time his wife is right,our country no matter we measure it in economy,political or size,we are really "peanut". -
Originally posted by drawer:Thats right,that is also the reason why Lee Kuan Yew discouraged ppl to born more children in the 70's n 80's.Becoz he also fear that Singapore might not have enough land to support the population.(Of coz,we now know his plan had fail becoz Chinese is too obedient n really born less baby,but Malay n Indian dont give a damn about his plan n continue to increase "production" )
Until Goh Chok Tong take over PM,he suddenly "act smart" and bring in alot of so-called "foreign talents" without examine the condition of our country.Perhaps he thought that we are as big as the U.S.A or Australia and we have the quality to attract foreign talents both economically n politically.But then,this time his wife is right,our country no matter we measure it in economy,political or size,we are really "peanut". -
Sorry for double post,i wanted to edit the above post but quoted instead,sorry for any misread.
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FT exists long before GCT took over. GCT never in full control even as an PM.Originally posted by drawer:Until Goh Chok Tong take over PM,he suddenly "act smart" and bring in alot of so-called "foreign talents" without examine the condition of our country.Perhaps he thought that we are as big as the U.S.A or Australia and we have the quality to attract foreign talents both economically n politically.But then,this time his wife is right,our country no matter we measure it in economy,political or size,we are really "peanut". -
Sometimes i really wonder what Goh Chok Tong is fully incharge of when he is a PM,he seem totally manipulated by the Lee family n act like a puppet........To make thing worse,he seem like doesnt care at all,what a useless bum!!!!
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Are we attracting the right ppl? I have no qualms if the foreign talent that is coming in are individuals who are truely beneficial to our country. Hell, with their genius, they might be able to actually do something and improve the present situation which honestly, we are have a problem grappling with. However, if we are allowing second-rated individuals in, to challenge for jobs, to take up spaces in our versities at the expense of Singaporeans, I say we need a relook at the policy.
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You think potential immigrants are stupid eh..why the hell would they come here to settle if we cannot even offer them a better quality of life.They know that if they take up citizenship, they will face a very different kind of life, the ones that many of us live and gripe.
Wanna attract real talent, free up the bloody national policies first.And begin with placing the people first.
We are a city-state built with lights and glass, good for work and play when you are in your 20s and 30s...something like a dystopian supercity with tall skyscrapers, roof top bars and massive underground railways..but is this steel and glass nation a place to raise your kids?It's not easy, and therein lies the disconnect. -
Yup,u are right.We are only attracting "2nd class" foreigners into here,becoz real foreign talents will ask themselves a question before they come here,that is "Why the hell would i want to come here n take up citizenship when the PAP government are "ill-treating" their own citizens?"Originally posted by Quincey:Are we attracting the right ppl? I have no qualms if the foreign talent that is coming in are individuals who are truely beneficial to our country. Hell, with their genius, they might be able to actually do something and improve the present situation which honestly, we are have a problem grappling with. However, if we are allowing second-rated individuals in, to challenge for jobs, to take up spaces in our versities at the expense of Singaporeans, I say we need a relook at the policy.
I believe even "2nd-class" foreign talent also dont want to migrate here,the most they take up "PR" for the convenience of working here n after earning enough money.They will throw back the "PR" identity card back to the PAP government n say :"BYE BYE,STUPID SINGAPORE GOVERNMENT!!!" -
and look at the car coe and tax stuffs for diesal!so slow to implement the rule to lax on the tax!
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The foreigners who are clamouring for Singapore citizenship are those from Myanmar and India. With the rise of China, most PRC nationals will be content with being PRs. Malaysians do not want to convert to Singapore citizenship since they can own cheap property in Malaysia and retire there comfortably.
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While I say that we should better seive the talent knocking at our doors, I also hope that we Singaporeans be more open to diversity. I think it is disturbing that we are tagging individuals with sterotypes based upon the country of their origin. Sure, he might be from China, she might be from India, but that does not make them any more inferior than us. Instead, we should take it upon ourselves to make sure that they feel Singapore, the Singaporean way, and that it is the diversity they bring that make us all the more richer and stronger. Yes, they outrun us in school, they take our jobs, but it is, we must admit, that they are better in that field. We must, all of us, rise up to this challenge they bring and just make ourselves better to be competitive. It is really distgusting watching individuals kicking the dust, creating for themselves false illusions of superiority.
However, that does not mean we must become some playground for all trying to find a better life. We are a nation crafted out of the blood and sweat of our forefathers, our parents and ourselves, we must never allow our country be trodden over by individuals who think they can enter into this society just because they want to. Thus, while we should be open to diversity, we should also be stringent of the quality of the individuals who want to become citizens of this state. -
ZZZzzzzzzzzzOriginally posted by Quincey:While I say that we should better seive the talent knocking at our doors, I also hope that we Singaporeans be more open to diversity. I think it is disturbing that we are tagging individuals with sterotypes based upon the country of their origin. Sure, he might be from China, she might be from India, but that does not make them any more inferior than us. Instead, we should take it upon ourselves to make sure that they feel Singapore, the Singaporean way, and that it is the diversity they bring that make us all the more richer and stronger. Yes, they outrun us in school, they take our jobs, but it is, we must admit, that they are better in that field. We must, all of us, rise up to this challenge they bring and just make ourselves better to be competitive. It is really distgusting watching individuals kicking the dust, creating for themselves false illusions of superiority.
However, that does not mean we must become some playground for all trying to find a better life. We are a nation crafted out of the blood and sweat of our forefathers, our parents and ourselves, we must never allow our country be trodden over by individuals who think they can enter into this society just because they want to. Thus, while we should be open to diversity, we should also be stringent of the quality of the individuals who want to become citizens of this state. -
To be true, w/o these so called foreign talents, many of our high tecg factories and fabs would close shop liao! Many sinagporeans are just unable to cope with the graveyard shift work. Many of our youngsters, after graduating from Poly or Uin, just anyhow want to start their entreprenur dreams with the Blood-&-Sweats moneys from their parents retirement funds. In the end, they just wasted it down the drains. Some even more worse, think themseleves very smart, and start to becomes punters.
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I pray you, state your counter arguement.Originally posted by drawer:ZZZzzzzzzzzz -
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Cos of low salary. only malaysian willing to work due the exchange rate and their living cost is also much lower as compare to siongapore. wake up your ideal. -
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Cos of low salary. only malaysian willing to work due the exchange rate and their living cost is also much lower as compare to siongapore. wake up your ideal.
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how would u feel if u got replaced by a CMI FT at work?Originally posted by Quincey:While I say that we should better seive the talent knocking at our doors, I also hope that we Singaporeans be more open to diversity. I think it is disturbing that we are tagging individuals with sterotypes based upon the country of their origin. Sure, he might be from China, she might be from India, but that does not make them any more inferior than us. Instead, we should take it upon ourselves to make sure that they feel Singapore, the Singaporean way, and that it is the diversity they bring that make us all the more richer and stronger. Yes, they outrun us in school, they take our jobs, but it is, we must admit, that they are better in that field. We must, all of us, rise up to this challenge they bring and just make ourselves better to be competitive. It is really distgusting watching individuals kicking the dust, creating for themselves false illusions of superiority.
However, that does not mean we must become some playground for all trying to find a better life. We are a nation crafted out of the blood and sweat of our forefathers, our parents and ourselves, we must never allow our country be trodden over by individuals who think they can enter into this society just because they want to. Thus, while we should be open to diversity, we should also be stringent of the quality of the individuals who want to become citizens of this state. -
Yeah, why they come here becoz they can earn much more den working in their own country. Last time working for a company tat consists of many malaysian. U will see how their lifestyle improve gradually after working here for a few yrs. After working in singapore for a few yrs, they able to support their family, buy a bigger house ( which is bigger den our hdb 5 rm flat, got garden some more), buy a car etc. Even better den many ppl here, working all their life, some can't even afford a car n a big house to live in.Originally posted by Lowclassman:ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Cos of low salary. only malaysian willing to work due the exchange rate and their living cost is also much lower as compare to siongapore. wake up your ideal. -
What arguement u want?Your post already "balls-carrying" the government policy so "tight" already,u still want what arguement?Originally posted by Quincey:I pray you, state your counter arguement.