Racist bloggers charged with sedition
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Continued from Military Nuts.
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hei..sedition sounds like audition!
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Gee, wonder when they'll do the same for paedophiles.
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Especially those with arcane knowledge.
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Not to forget always using some moderator's name for no rhyme nor reason.
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Hanor, hanor.
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Now a third fellow has been charged. His offence: comparing Malays with rats.
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sadly, the government has never realised that blog are online personal diaries. Its just it avaliability which it harps on. No matter how wrong a remark is, it would be just pathetic if we couldnt write it out in our own diary.
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Election time is nearing.Originally posted by ahpeh:sadly, the government has never realised that blog are online personal diaries. Its just it avaliability which it harps on. No matter how wrong a remark is, it would be just pathetic if we couldnt write it out in our own diary.
Gov need some agenda to help increase Singapore's racial minority share support. Remember how Philip Yeo of A-star threaten bloogers not so long ago ? Blogger matter is a very convenient and high-profile way of getting messages across. -
Well, sometimes words have to be used properly...
Which leads to racism, attacks or sort -
u should go read lawOriginally posted by ahpeh:sadly, the government has never realised that blog are online personal diaries. Its just it avaliability which it harps on. No matter how wrong a remark is, it would be just pathetic if we couldnt write it out in our own diary. -
once the spark of racism starts the fire, it takes more than the whole fire bridgade to put it out... it is really sensitive...when different races start to slash each other at the throat... much worse than terrorism...
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Which is the greater of evils - some immature racists posting some remarks in a blog thereby causing some discomforts or the whole government elites overreacting and coming down hard on populations with greater stifling controls due to immature conduct of a few.
Which is the bigger danger - a few anti-social persons who cause harms to a few citizens or the elites practising tax and privatisation policies to avoid responsibility for looking after the people, the sick and old and the under-privileged in provisions of essential services and running up a system of high-cost of living and doing business due to uncaring self-centred and unaccountable management.
Tolerate the white elephant placards outside some MRT white stations or endure more and more hardship and eventually social unrest and breakup of society? -
agree, if racism results in blood, then it takes more fire bridgade. We need to ask our Malay community how they take all those racists comments targetting at them, do they just feel some discomforts?? May be they should make the remarks in front of some Malays and see the response.Originally posted by sgboy2004:once the spark of racism starts the fire, it takes more than the whole fire bridgade to put it out... it is really sensitive...when different races start to slash each other at the throat... much worse than terrorism...
If our malay community do not mind, then I guess we should let the bloggers free. I believe these ppl could be playing with fire, and please, for fcuk sake don't let the garbement teach us how to respect the other races. -
Which is the bigger problem - some racist postings in private diaries of citizens or continuing ISD-style clamp down or controls that stifle growth of an entrepreneurial and creative society where citizens will learn and become more tolerant of minor fault-lines.
There is a lot of problems which we have not resolved which are more urgent than minor attitude problems. If minor problems can be corrected by educations in schools, such measures should be taken in a more proactive manner. If we want to control the populations for every fault then we need some more laws and controls. Which is the model of governance Singpore should adopt to build on and grow to reach a more tolerant society. Government must decide on this before trying to clamp down more on intellectual space which is already very limited. -
Gimme the white pachyderms anyday.Originally posted by robertteh:Which is the greater of evils - some immature racists posting some remarks in a blog thereby causing some discomforts or the whole government elites overreacting and coming down hard on populations with greater stifling controls due to immature conduct of a few.
Which is the bigger danger - a few anti-social persons who cause harms to a few citizens or the elites practising tax and privatisation policies to avoid responsibility for looking after the people, the sick and old and the under-privileged in provisions of essential services and running up a system of high-cost of living and doing business due to uncaring self-centred and unaccountable management.
Tolerate the white elephant placards outside some MRT white stations or endure more and more hardship and eventually social unrest and breakup of society? -
Originally posted by ditzy:Gee, wonder when they'll do the same for paedophiles.
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There was a 3rd person - a 17-year-old who was also charged with sedition, making the latest total number to 3.
Unfortunately, no mention was made as to the remarks posted.
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I'm no encourager of racism. The point here isn't the issue of racism but how they keep track of blogs.. It's disturbing. That's so Nazi!!
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No yellow ribbon to white elephant.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Gimme the white pachyderms anyday.
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From what i heard, they are charged because other Netters complaint and report to the authorities.
If there is a warning page before the webpage
Warning Text NOT for WEAK MINDS
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I think if they used "IMHO", their attorney still got fighting chance.
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Honestly, i shall keep my opinions to myself, or i might be the 4th to be charged. Political defamatory -_-'
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I believe that there is a misunderstanding somewhere by the government about the role of internet and blogs in its current actions on bloggers.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Gimme the white pachyderms anyday.
Internet today is first a fast-paced communication too which allows people to share and exchange opinions across national borders. It is only incidentally secondarily personal communication medium.
In most cases, bloggers treat the blogs as their personal diaries. Large audiences are exceptions rather than the rule.
Blogs do not enjoy the same mass audiences as national newspapers or televisions which are the only true mass communication serving the public.
So posting on blogs or websites are not public in character like the newspapers or TVs. I am not encouraging anyone to post defamatory or racists stuff in internets but I feel that given our tight media controls and lack of freedoms of poltical participation, the clamp down on blogs for personal views will be one more counter-productive move to curtail our further progress and opening up of our society.
The government should clear up its current misunderstanding about the role of websites or internets as they are not mass media. Even if seditions can be proven, penalty for racist remarks in such personal dairies should not be equated to that of the mass media and should be moderated and not be as heavy as similar remarks published in mass circulations newspapers or TVs. -
Somehow I don't think a government with a majority of technocrats can ever hope to look at policies from a socio-cultural point of view and forumulate a law or a regulation that one could look and say .." Hey!that's a well written piece"