Greengolblin is a unfair moderator
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You never shave!!!Originally posted by FireIce:then who suitable?
u?
hahahahahahha
can u hear my leg hair laffing? -
Someone said I was shallow.Mod didin't utter a word.
I rebutted him:"Ya, I'm shallow & u are deep.So u are a homo."Greengolblin reacted:"You stoop so low to make personal attack ...."How dramatic his expression!In fact,it was just an excuse & lie to close my topic "homo is against nature". -
I think this discussion had better move over here before things get out of hand.
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I made a mistake.Actually the survey whether a topic should be featured is a standard practice for all topics.
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Iveco,
I don't understand what your msg mean.Actually I was talking about homo issue,but I was diverted because of the 'good' work of the mod. -
Sgdiehard,
Since u are against hom.U should speak up when the issue was debating.But u didn't,it was left to me alone (in one stage) speaking against homo while homo supporters have 2 or 3.So I got bullied by their number.It seemed that ppl who are against homo is in the minority when in fact it is not so. -
Dear PRP,Originally posted by PRP:Sgdiehard,
Since u are against hom.U should speak up when the issue was debating.But u didn't,it was left to me alone (in one stage) speaking against homo while homo supporters have 2 or 3.So I got bullied by their number.It seemed that ppl who are against homo is in the minority when in fact it is not so.
This issue started under the thread "Benefict condemns gay images" and continued in different threads including one at EH. Honebunz, Atobe and several others put up very convincing arguments and references (worthy of reading over and over
) to prove that homosexual activity is not natural and can be corrected, that legally we do not accept marriage of the same sex. Of course, we don't have to agree with one another, and you certainly cannot expect them to change their sexual behavior based on your argument. 
The discussions degenerated into names calling from both sides of the camps and then it became personal. That is why you appear to be fighting alone at this stage. I have no time for this.
What is the point in discussion or being debated now? The title of the thread is "Greengoblin is an unfair moderator", I have nothing to add to that.
Regards
sgdiehard -
2 years back was SM Goh.. Today, you have PM Lee affirming the existence of gays in the nation..
7 Oct 2005
Straits Times
Fear homosexuals? No, Govt sensitive to others too
THE Singapore Government is not homophobic, said Prime Minister Lee
Hsien Loong yesterday, rejecting suggestions that it had an irrational
fear of homosexuals.
But it must manage an environment in which there is maximum space for
each person to live his own life without impinging on other people.
Thus it must remain sensitive to segments of the population which are
uncomfortable with gays, he said during a question and answer session
with members of the Foreign Correspondents Association.
He was replying to Time magazine journalist Jake Smith, who had asked
how he felt about gays and said that the Singapore Government gives
'every impression of being somewhat homophobic'.
Rejecting this view, PM Lee said that he agreed with the view taken by
his predecessor, Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, that homosexuals 'are
people like you and me'.
But the question, he said, was this: 'How do we provide the maximum
space without it becoming intrusive and oppressive on the rest of the
population and without causing a backlash which will lead to
polarisation and animosity?
'That's our responsibility and challenge. It's very hard to do.'
A balance, he said, needs to be struck between two opposing forces. On
the one side are the gay activists who want more space and feel
entitled to it. On the other are those who condemn homosexuality.
'There will be those who say this is wrong, it's a sin, not just a
crime but a sin, stop it,' he said. 'Therefore, it's a dynamic balance
and one which we'll have to manage very carefully.'
It is a problem his predecessors also grappled with.
In 1998, during a call-in segment of a live CNN interview, a gay man
had asked then-senior minister Lee Kuan Yew if gays had a place in
Singapore as it moved towards a more tolerant society.
Mr Lee replied that it was a question of what a society considered
acceptable, and Singaporeans were still largely very conservative.
Five years later, then-prime minister Goh Chok Tong said the Government
was openly employing homosexual people, even in sensitive jobs.
While accepting of gays, PM Lee drew a line against gay marriages and
parades. The annual Nation gay party, usually held in August, was
banned this year.
He said: 'You can do that in Sydney and London and San Francisco, but
I'm not sure you're allowed to do that in Singapore, because I think it
will be offensive to a large number of Singaporeans and it will be very divisive.' -
Article on Today..
7 Oct 2005
Today
PM CONFIDENT OF STRONG POLL SHOWING, THOUGH IT WON'T BE 2001 AGAIN
Derrick A Paulo
He may be coy about the timing of the elections, but Prime Minister Lee
Hsien Loong suspects that the backdrop in which they are held - and the
results - could be different from what the last polls threw up.
The next General Election (GE) is unlikely to be held under the "truly
exceptional circumstances" that gave the People's Action Party a
landslide win in 2001, he said yesterday at a Foreign Correspondents'
Association
luncheon.
"It was after the 911 bombings. There was a general alarm bordering on
panic, perhaps, around the world. We went (to the polls) at that
moment, and people gave us a resounding, overwhelming vote:
Seventy-five per cent," he said. "I'm not hoping to have such a
situation when I call elections."
On how job worries as well as the National Kidney Foundation and casino
issues could factor into the polls, he said that the psyche of the
electorate depends on many factors.
Whichever those factors are, though, he is confident that "we will have
strong support and win a strong mandate". The GE was among a broad
range of topics, including many domestic issues, which he tackled in a
50-minute Q&A session.
Coming off his recent trip to Bali, it meant that one of those
questions was on how to deal with terrorism and Singapore's readiness
for an attack.
Mr Lee said the Republic was doing "all that we can" to prevent a
terrorist act. These include scans, precautions at hotels and shopping
centres, and parking curbs, such as those at Holland Village.
But physical security can only go so far.
"You need to go beyond that, to within the society to make sure you
know your people and your people are integrated into the society, (so)
you don't have disaffected groups who feel this is not their country
and (think), 'Well, what the hell, let's blow it up because I have no
stake in this'," he said.
Which is why, he said, the authorities came down hard on the three
bloggers who had posted racist comments online.
Preferring to err on the side of caution was also why Singapore banned
satellite television years ago, although the Internet could change
that.
"You can get a lot of stuff on the Internet, but the Internet is not
quite the same as a satellite channel. Not yet. It may come, in which
case we will have to review our position. But it has not reached that
point," said Mr Lee.
The current cable TV situation is a "reasonable solution" to meeting
the need for choices and a free flow of information while enabling the
Government to intervene. So far, it has not had to do that, he noted.
The question of change, especially in the political system, has become
standard on the "briefing paper of any Western journalist coming to
Singapore", Mr Lee said wryly after the issue was brought up again.
While he reiterated the Government's disapproval of the liberal
"Western model" for Singapore's purposes, Mr Lee listed the sort of
changes he expects to see.
"I think in 20 years, our society will change. I think the politics of
it will change. The issues probably will change, although the
fundamentals of living in this small red dot will remain the same," he
said.
Will one of those changes include a gay Cabinet minister, or is the
Government homophobic? "I don't think we are homophobic," he replied,
asserting his agreement with the views of then-Prime Minister Goh Chok
Tong that gays are "people like you and me", in Mr Lee's words.
"But there are some segments of Singaporeans who may even disagree with
that, and we have to be aware of that," he said.
These are factors the Government must take into account, he said, when
gay groups want to "flaunt (their) gayness" through parades and parties
like the Nation.05.
"I'm not sure I want to do that in Singapore because I think it will be
offensive to a large number of Singaporeans and will be very divisive,"
he added.
In a brief 10-minute speech before the Q&A, he highlighted the need to
encourage diversity but not division, especially when it comes to
nurturing the next generation, one of four main tasks he identified as
needed in the next 20 years.
The other factors Singapore's success would hinge on are: The ability
to anticipate and manage trends, maintain competitiveness and cohesion,
and develop a broad leadership group. -
Article on PLU (People Like Us), a gay activist group.
MEDIA RELEASE
7 October 2005
The government needs to _SHOW_ that it is not homophobic
People Like Us welcomes Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's assurance that
the government is not homophobic (Straits Times 7 October 2005) and
that it needs to accommodate the gay community's interests (Straits
Times Online, 6 October 2005).
In his speech and Q&A with the Foreign Correspondents' Association on 6
October 2005, PM Lee said that performance and ability to continue to
deliver results are what his government is measured by.
The measurables for determining the level of homophobia in the
government's policies require ensuring that gay Singaporeans can live
their lives without having to live in fear of the law or uninformed
prejudice in a manner that is not experienced by heterosexual
Singaporeans.
In particular, the following are critical to establish that the
government's positions are not homophobic:
1. Decriminalisation of consensual gay sex and the equalisation of the
age of consent;
2. Equalisation of censorship standards between heterosexual and
homosexual themes and content;
3. Registration of gay-identified societies;
4. Removal of homophobic bias in the Ministry of Education's
curricula.
The Prime Minister thinks that managing backlash and divisiveness
should be via placing restrictions and unjust laws against lesbian and
gay Singaporeans. With respect, People Like Us is of the view that he
is wrong.
Just as maintaining racial harmony is founded upon the core principle
that people of all races are equal in law and policy, and racist speech
frowned upon, so integration and acceptance of the gay community cannot
be realised unless the government adopts a similar principle regarding
sexual orientation, and recognises that the threat to social harmony
comes primarily from homophobia.
The Prime Minister referred to people who objected to homosexuality as
a "sin". The government should ask whether the opposition to gay
equality is not a virulently vocal, religiously-motivated campaign by a
small number of people that is in no way representative, but merely
seem so because they have the clout and resources to make themselves
heard. Policy-making by a secular government operating in a
multi-racial society like Singapore should not be taken captive by the
religious beliefs of segments of its citizens.
People Like Us trusts that Mr. Lee will continue to foster an
all-inclusive society in Singapore where everyone regardless of race,
language, religion or sexual orientation will be treated equally by the
law and governmental policies so that we can all find our place in this
country we call home. -
Sgdiehard,
I do not ask them to change their sexual habbit.It was just a debate on whether homo is right.The called me names & i didn't do the same. -
If the government isn't homophobic, why are men still being arrested for behaving intimately with other men?
Sounds like we are still living in the Third Reich at times. -
If the mod was fair,there is no need for this topic.Just because the mod is homo supporter, he still shouldn't be biased when he carries out his duties.Suppose the mod were anti-homo,would homo be happy if he biased against them?So if mod is fair,there should be no problem.
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Now i understand what your msg mean.Thank you.Originally posted by iveco:I think this discussion had better move over here before things get out of hand. -
its fine learn2playOriginally posted by PRP:Greengoblin said he would close my topic if he FEEL LIKE it.So this is the way he does his job.He is a unfair guy. -
Earthlings,
The title of the topic is not about homo issue.U should understand that.If u want to discuss about that issue,why not open a topic? -
why didn't you advise sgdiehard not to post anti-gay messages then (he started the ball rolling, didn't he?Originally posted by PRP:Earthlings,
The title of the topic is not about homo issue.U should understand that.If u want to discuss about that issue,why not open a topic?
i'm just glad that you are not a mod.. -
If yr homo activities affect yr memory, check out the previous postings. The issue started when somebody condemned Benedict the Pope for his anti gay message. I did start the ball rolling, but it is ok to put it in my account, its my pleasureOriginally posted by earthlings73:why didn't you advise sgdiehard not to post anti-gay messages then (he started the ball rolling, didn't he?
i'm just glad that you are not a mod.. Enough is said about homosexual activities, it is your body and it is your call and your rights what you want to do with it, but if you are not sure of what the straights are thinking, read through those postings again -
Ok mod is unfair. Then how?
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By tmr morning guarenteed you will think we are fair... -
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAOriginally posted by CenturionMBT:so simple just stand infront of the mirror take lighter and wave it infront of you and chant ... Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....
By tmr morning guarenteed you will think we are fair...
bro, are u ok? -
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By tmr morning guarenteed you will think we are fair...
i sacrifice one, u got one in ur trunk? -
aiyohz how can anyhow give away my darlings....later he say i try to bribe him and call cpib to catch me...Originally posted by laurence82:bo kor leng, i think must appease prp with two jap gals...
i sacrifice one, u got one in ur trunk? -
better then ever...just feeling a little brainwashed...Originally posted by FireIce:BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
bro, are u ok? -
I know you will make a fair admin. You'd be a great help to Jason and FI.Originally posted by CenturionMBT:so simple just stand infront of the mirror take lighter and wave it infront of you and chant ... Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....Greengoblin and CenturionMBT are fair moderators....
By tmr morning guarenteed you will think we are fair...