GE coming?
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Posted: 06 October 2005 2058 hrs
PM Lee expects strong support from voters when polls are called
By Asha Popatlal, Channel NewsAsia
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said on Thursday he expected strong support from voters when elections are called.
But the situation is likely to be different from the polls in 2001 which took place immediately after September 11, and saw the ruling party get a strong 75 per cent of the votes.
Mr Lee said this in response to a question at the Foreign Correspondents Association lunch on whether recent issues like the casino and NKF debates might see an erosion of support.
It was the first time Mr Lee was addressing the association as Prime Minister.
And he tackled a wide-ranging number of issues from the Bali bombings to the gay population and integrated casinos to the timing of the general elections.
Mr Lee said: "I have no doubt that when we go, we will have a strong support and win strong mandate but I would say that previous elections in 2001 were what we would hope to be truly exceptional circumstances - just after the Sept 11 bombings."
"There was general alarm bordering on panic around the world and we went at that moment and people gave us resounding votes 75 per cent - those are exceptional circumstances. I am not hoping to have such a situation when I call elections."
But, as usual, Mr Lee remained coy on the timing of the elections which have to be called by mid-2007.
As for what he hopes to be most proud of by the end of his tenure, he said the challenge was to build for his time and beyond.
And that would depend on the people and values they share.
PM Lee said: "We have to master the art of keeping the relevant parts and letting the new generation fly with their experiences."
In the end, Mr Lee said, Singapore is an improbable nation.
But it made it by always evolving, anticipating trends and maintaining its competitiveness. - CNA /ch -
this year or next?
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its not 911 its the singapore shares lah.Originally posted by LinYu:Singapore News »
Time is GMT + 8 hours
Posted: 06 October 2005 2058 hrs
PM Lee expects strong support from voters when polls are called
By Asha Popatlal, Channel NewsAsia
But the situation is likely to be different from the polls in 2001 which took place immediately after September 11, and saw the ruling party get a strong 75 per cent of the votes. -
Nah bei, after all those f**ked-up jobs done including the ever present rise & rise & rise & rise & rise of fares & bills, he dare to expect strong support from voters. Damn thick skin siah.Originally posted by LinYu:
Singapore News »
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Posted: 06 October 2005 2058 hrsPM Lee expects strong support from voters when polls are called
Calling all fellow Singaporeans!!! Those who have the chance to vote the opposition, this is the chance now man!!! Pls bring out all the guts to vote for the opposition!!! For those who vote for the ruling party, pls dun complain after that if y'all think that made the wrong choice. -
why bother... we all know who will always win
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we must always hope for the bestOriginally posted by mistyblue:why bother... we all know who will always win
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Mandate will drop this GE.
With all the recent blunders in the govt sector richly publicised in the papers, educated masses will think carefully before throwing their lot with the ruling party.
One only has to disect the Singaporean Govt Genome to figure out why we have become what we are now... -
ppl still kia si
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PM Lee is now looking for the best time for the next election. I bet that ruling party will still win, but how strong the mandate will be highly dependent on the timing to throw the elction.
Nov - Dec 2005: Ok timing. Strong stock market performance. Jobless rate down a bit. Expected no more mosquito problem - too cold to breed. US market may still be ok. Property market is building up its pace, stockmarket expected to hover around 2300 til Nov 2005 at least.
Jan - Jun 2006: A bad timing. Uncertainity in the global finance market due to the new US fed chief. Traditional data indicated that new fed chief = uncertainties eg stock market crashes or interest "Great Leap Forward". Now the "US Property Bubbles", "Inflation" would be boiling in the cookpot.
Jun -Dec 2006: Global economies should be recovering over the soft patch in early 2006. Sg stockmarket expected to attract serious attention and go for the next leap in 2nd half of 2006. Good timing as well. -
I predict it will be this year end school holidays.
I'm waiting for goodies to be announced soon. Let's see how good it's going to be? -
GE will be held in NOV or DEC. Civil Servants had their leave freezed from NOV onwards. (According to frens in Civil Service)Originally posted by Archie_boy:I predict it will be this year end school holidays.
I'm waiting for goodies to be announced soon. Let's see how good it's going to be? -
GE so soon?Originally posted by Shigemichi Take:GE will be held in NOV or DEC. Civil Servants had their leave freezed from NOV onwards. (According to frens in Civil Service)
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If you notice, before they call for the last, COE for all vehicles dropped tremendously.Originally posted by iveco:GE so soon?
And juz days back, COE dropped mah. Could this be a tactic used by GOV or its juz too coincindental??
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One of the old tactics is always a sudden announcement of GE. Very short notice so that they catch the opposition by surprise while they are all well prepared. It's the same old stale tactic mah...Originally posted by iveco:GE so soon?
I don't mind any tactic, jus want to have a holiday, more goodies and betting with friends of the GE resluts. hehehehe SO. what's your take? How many percentage swing this time?
COE, a goody? Hmm... must go change my car liao...
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Doesn't matter if it's sudden or given 6 months notice.Originally posted by Archie_boy:One of the old tactics is always a sudden announcement of GE. Very short notice so that they catch the opposition by surprise while they are all well prepared. It's the same old stale tactic mah...
I don't mind any tactic, jus want to have a holiday, more goodies and betting with friends of the GE resluts. hehehehe SO. what's your take? How many percentage swing this time?
COE, a goody? Hmm... must go change my car liao...
Nobody gets to vote anyways.
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What is popular may not be good. After those choose to stay on the safe side, & vote for the ruling party, if anything goes wrong, they'll complain & complain. Piece of crap man!!! It is like personally lifting up a big stone, & then drop it & crush one's own foot. Crazy!!!Originally posted by mistyblue:why bother... we all know who will always win [/quote]
Yes we all know who will always win, but those who lived in areas where the opposition decided to challenge the ruling party, they can all just vote for the opposition, & kick the ruling party's arse out of that area. E.g. those living in Holland-Bukit Panjang GRC can forget about voting for the rest of their lives.
There'll be more opposition members in the Parliament, then that is the time when the Singaporeans will judge if the opposition fare better then those living in the ivory towers. If not, presently there're only 3 opposition members in the Parliament. One of them, Non-Constituency MP, bloody hell patronising man!!!
[quote]Originally posted by mistyblue:
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Hope Holland-Bukit Panjang gets contested this time. Bus service standards in Bukit Panjang are dropping and Holland Village has the upgrading fiasco. A lethal combo for the opposition to seize upon and deal a killer blow to the PAP.Originally posted by Spirit of Fire:Yes we all know who will always win, but those who lived in areas where the opposition decided to challenge the ruling party, they can all just vote for the opposition, & kick the ruling party's arse out of that area. E.g. those living in Holland-Bukit Panjang GRC can forget about voting for the rest of their lives.
Neighbouring Hong Kah GRC also has some transportation blues, and ironically, Transport Minister Yeo Cheow Tong is one of its MPs. He needs a slap on the face for the Buangkok MRT fiasco and poor bus connections in Choa Chu Kang.
Aljunied GRC is also spoiling for a contest. WP wanted to stand there last election but were disqualified on technicalities. Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC, if contested, may see some support for PAP eroded after the "Jumbogate" incident at Buangkok MRT station.
Is Dr Tony Tan still a MP for Sembawang GRC? This ward may see radical changes if he is no longer one of its representatives. -
1. Ppl living in opposition location are starting to resent the opposition party for not doing enough for them such as upgrading. Ppl will give in when there are short term gains but long term pains cause the ppl are rather myopic. Those who can see had rather be call quitters.Originally posted by Spirit of Fire:Yes we all know who will always win, but those who lived in areas where the opposition decided to challenge the ruling party, they can all just vote for the opposition, & kick the ruling party's arse out of that area. E.g. those living in Holland-Bukit Panjang GRC can forget about voting for the rest of their lives.
There'll be more opposition members in the Parliament, then that is the time when the Singaporeans will judge if the opposition fare better then those living in the ivory towers. If not, presently there're only 3 opposition members in the Parliament. One of them, Non-Constituency MP, bloody hell patronising man!!!
What is popular may not be good. After those choose to stay on the safe side, & vote for the ruling party, if anything goes wrong, they'll complain & complain. Piece of crap man!!! It is like personally lifting up a big stone, & then drop it & crush one's own foot. Crazy!!!
2. PPl are easily bought over by false promises even when they are disappointed time after time by the high handed, mismanagement and broke promises - ppl still hope. Many people still feel they can trust the current govt dispite the many cover up and all the hush hush stories or corporate governance, nepotism, conflict of interest, dis-association with the ground levels and even the all important peanut issues.
3. Many ppl still feel current party is doing a good job. There's no impetus to vote for opposition. Even if its a wrong choice, ppl will never admit and lose face and will simply twist facts to justify the choice. Most also don't care who runs the country as long as things are not too bad. Others do not want to think cause its not their business.
4. GRC can be readjusted and regrouped to the disadvantage of the people. Then heavy weights such as GCT, MM Lee and BG Lee are used to sway the votes in these opposition grounds.
5. The current party is synomious as the govt. The absolute power held over all from president to the common man is all but total.
6. Ppl are extremely paranoid and fearful of voting against the current ruling party as there are reported cases of backlash against the citizens
7. PPl have sleective memory and even more selective ideas of what is a good ruling party. Most ppl are not badly affected by the economic crunch and they see no reason to vote for the opposition. (not counting all those who benefitted from the currernt party)
8. The lack of strong and good opposition and the current strong opposition are not young anymore with no replacements.
9. Effective use of propaganda to brainwash the ppl, instill fear of possible corruption, destruction and chaos if the opposition had more presence in the govt. PPl believe these things. That's why its call propaganda not truth.
10. Its been many many many years and many people never had a chance to cast their votes. Its called "election" but most of the members are not elected but its just a self nomination cause there is no one who dare go against the current party. The country self declared "democratic republic". But to make the word have meaning in singapore, we should just write to Oxford and other dictionary to ask them to redefine it to be something else more suitable to describe the situation in singapore. -
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the pap got 75% of the votes last time but with less than a quarter eligible voters able to cast their votes, that would technically mean only 18% voted for the pap.
i hope lhl will be more of a man than gct and have more one-to-one or restrict grc to max 4 candidates each. for all the challange we're being asked to undertake, let's see the same attitude from our political masters. -
You see the last GE was held during November, December period maybe this time too also like that
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I'm not sure about the situation whereby the people living in opposition location are starting to resent the opposition party for not doing enough for them such as upgrading, but the people not giving them a chance for them to perform, & yet they're giving the ruling party f**king damn lots of chances, bloody hell. How many of the people in our society get these astronomical amounts of chances, it is extremely few, or u can state it as negligble. It's very selfish of Singaporeans that they've this mindset that it's not their business!!!Originally posted by mistyblue:1. Ppl living in opposition location are starting to resent the opposition party for not doing enough for them such as upgrading. Ppl will give in when there are short term gains but long term pains cause the ppl are rather myopic. Those who can see had rather be call quitters.
2. PPl are easily bought over by false promises even when they are disappointed time after time by the high handed, mismanagement and broke promises - ppl still hope. Many people still feel they can trust the current govt dispite the many cover up and all the hush hush stories or corporate governance, nepotism, conflict of interest, dis-association with the ground levels and even the all important peanut issues.
3. Many ppl still feel current party is doing a good job. There's no impetus to vote for opposition. Even if its a wrong choice, ppl will never admit and lose face and will simply twist facts to justify the choice. Most also don't care who runs the country as long as things are not too bad. Others do not want to think cause its not their business.
4. GRC can be readjusted and regrouped to the disadvantage of the people. Then heavy weights such as GCT, MM Lee and BG Lee are used to sway the votes in these opposition grounds.
5. The current party is synomious as the govt. The absolute power held over all from president to the common man is all but total.
6. Ppl are extremely paranoid and fearful of voting against the current ruling party as there are reported cases of backlash against the citizens
7. PPl have sleective memory and even more selective ideas of what is a good ruling party. Most ppl are not badly affected by the economic crunch and they see no reason to vote for the opposition. (not counting all those who benefitted from the currernt party)
8. The lack of strong and good opposition and the current strong opposition are not young anymore with no replacements.
9. Effective use of propaganda to brainwash the ppl, instill fear of possible corruption, destruction and chaos if the opposition had more presence in the govt. PPl believe these things. That's why its call propaganda not truth.
10. Its been many many many years and many people never had a chance to cast their votes. Its called "election" but most of the members are not elected but its just a self nomination cause there is no one who dare go against the current party. The country self declared "democratic republic". But to make the word have meaning in singapore, we should just write to Oxford and other dictionary to ask them to redefine it to be something else more suitable to describe the situation in singapore.
Singaporeans r capable of better things rather then siding with the ruling party blindly. We've to fight for our own happiness, & nobody is responsible for that. We're responsible for our own happiness.
"THE ONLY NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO FLOURISH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING" - EDMUND BURKE
I SINCERELY URGE THE PEOPLE TO CAST OFF THIS "IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS" MINDSET & "FEAR" ITSELF. IF U WANT TO CARRY ON LIVING IN A CAGE, PLS CARRY ON, BUT DON'T CAUSE THE FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ALSO LIVE IN THE SAME CAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY SELFISH OF U. -
coincidental or not.. who cares.. just grab the freebies..Originally posted by Shigemichi Take:If you notice, before they call for the last, COE for all vehicles dropped tremendously.
And juz days back, COE dropped mah. Could this be a tactic used by GOV or its juz too coincindental?? -
For our children, we have to wake up.