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I believe the RSAF is slowing withdrawing the A4 from service. The Vipers are slowing replacing the A4s in the A4 sqns. When all the Vipers are delivered, all the A4s will be withdraw except those in France for advanced jet training purposes.Originally posted by bigballs11:I thought I read somewhere we got tons of A4 hulls, all second hand bought from Israel, Jordan and ex-US-navy mothballs counting at least 130 or more. So won't be surpise we have at least a 100 of them still in service. For F5E, besides the first few batches bought new from Northrop, also bought some 2nd hand Jordan and receive a quite a couple of them Taiwan. Also heard we got so much F-5E spare parts (kiasu syndrome) that the RSAF assemble 5 RF-5Es just from these parts alone.
As for the F5s, they will also start to come out of service when the next gen jets(Rafale/Typhoon/SuperBugs/SuperVipers whatever RSAF is gonna purchase next) start to be delivered (sometime between 2007 and 2010). -
I think STAe has actually bought over the A4 skyhawk airframe manufacturing plants in USA together with all the machinery....Originally posted by Joe Black:I believe the RSAF is slowing withdrawing the A4 from service. The Vipers are slowing replacing the A4s in the A4 sqns. When all the Vipers are delivered, all the A4s will be withdraw except those in France for advanced jet training purposes.
As for the F5s, they will also start to come out of service when the next gen jets(Rafale/Typhoon/SuperBugs/SuperVipers whatever RSAF is gonna purchase next) start to be delivered (sometime between 2007 and 2010).
That was about 10+ years ago... and furthermore... i read that RSAF bought as many as 180 A-4 before that for cannabilization and refurbishment....
SO.... wats gonna happen to all those skyhawks??? it will be a waste to simply dump them... I feel the RSAF should consider turning them into UCAV drones or watever... just dont turn it to scraps.... it will be a big waster -
Latest news from TCS....
RSAF to get new AFB at changi......
My thoughts....
1. the new RSAF AFB will effectively remove the need for overflight right of RSAF planes into malaysia airspace... AKA.... one less card for maharaja to play against singapore... just like the Newater card singapore is playing against malaysia water pricing....
2. the New AFB would help to alleviate the crowd at the other AFBs...
3. the New AFB would probably be build with full consideration of the latest and watever future malaysian millitary hardware purchase.... such as artillery and rocket launchers...
4. close proximity to Changi airport... changi naval base... selarang camp and commando camp... hmm......
5. maybe can build multiple short runways for fighter take-off.... -
Latest news from TCS....
RSAF to get new AFB at changi......
My thoughts....
1. the new RSAF AFB will effectively remove the need for overflight right of RSAF planes into malaysia airspace... AKA.... one less card for maharaja to play against singapore... just like the Newater card singapore is playing against malaysia water pricing....
2. the New AFB would help to alleviate the crowd at the other AFBs...
3. the New AFB would probably be build with full consideration of the latest and watever future malaysian millitary hardware purchase.... such as artillery and rocket launchers...
4. close proximity to Changi airport... changi naval base... selarang camp and commando camp... hmm......
5. maybe can build multiple short runways for fighter take-off.... -
Maybe sell me 1 as my private jet, that will be nice....I read from news quite sometime back that some chap bought an A4 cockpit from some garang guni scrapyard. Maybe I can buy some other parts and fully assemble my own private jet myself, BTW what will the COE for a A4 beOriginally posted by tripwire:I think STAe has actually bought over the A4 skyhawk airframe manufacturing plants in USA together with all the machinery....
That was about 10+ years ago... and furthermore... i read that RSAF bought as many as 180 A-4 before that for cannabilization and refurbishment....
SO.... wats gonna happen to all those skyhawks??? it will be a waste to simply dump them... I feel the RSAF should consider turning them into UCAV drones or watever... just dont turn it to scraps.... it will be a big waster
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As we have discussed previously, modifying the Skyhawks into some UCAV make sense, but the only problem is... STAero might not have the technology yet. BTW, some could even end up as drones for BVR targets for RSAF pilots.Originally posted by tripwire:I think STAe has actually bought over the A4 skyhawk airframe manufacturing plants in USA together with all the machinery....
That was about 10+ years ago... and furthermore... i read that RSAF bought as many as 180 A-4 before that for cannabilization and refurbishment....
SO.... wats gonna happen to all those skyhawks??? it will be a waste to simply dump them... I feel the RSAF should consider turning them into UCAV drones or watever... just dont turn it to scraps.... it will be a big waster -
Skyhawks into UCAV would probably also mean some seriously efficient C3I systems. Do we have that kind of ability?
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My Ans to yr question, Do we have that kind of ability? is YES
definitely.......hey we dun need so much pliot to risk their life.
For a country with a population of 4 million we cant afford. -
sorrie i see wrongly.....
Wrong reply>..............
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Our country always got a cheap deal of second-handed war machines from the world giant. why cant we buy new ones... is it bcause the governemnt cant afford it or is it too unneccesary to spend a few millions dollars on new machines at the risk of our economy. but come to think of it... do really we need high-ended and sophisticated submaris, fighters and warships as we dont have any major conflicts in our country 36 years of history. if it is for the country military showcase, then i think the government need to break away from their dreams.
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Don't be stupid. Security's not a dream. Sg isn't always buying scrap so if you don't know what u're talking about, put a sock in it.
THINK MAN! Apaches, F-16 C/D, Bionix, Lafayette... old stuff???
Of course the armed forces is for deterrent... We don't have Saddam Hussein for president so we're obviously not building an army for territorial gains. But nobody wants to get caught with their pants down. When the shit hits the fan, you wanna be able to say that you at least tried to catch it before it flew outta the toilet.
You can be sure that the regional balance of power will tilt against our favour if we can't at least claim to hold our own in an armed crisis. -
althru Saf brought in old stuffs.These old stuffs serve its own purpose in the military,the mindef use it primary for its training or evaluation before an aquisition of hardwares are being bought from the selected contender our a period of several years,examples like f-16 a\b
,Sm1 tanks........(althru they are almost retiring).The sub we acquired from the sweden are for training\evaluation,it is likely more advanced sub will be acquire in future from the swedish.........
i wouldnt want to make this conclusion that it will be Gotland
class.I believe that RSN/dsta are waiting for something to happen in sense that a new class of sub might be emerging soon from the european side.
Our counterpart i believe they might face problem maintencing their sub,cause they lack technical expertise althru they have been training in several countries. -
Im a Malaysian , after reading this thread ive the utmost respect for Singapore and Singaporeans
You guys know every single detail about singapore defence
Unlike Malaysians with their 'tidak apa' attitude
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i was wondering. you think singapore has got the rafale as its next fighter? i was looking thru straits times today and then there was this ad by the european defence companies. and it features the cruiser we're buying from them. and the copter by eurocopter that i assume is gonna come with it, and the rafale. no mention of the typhoon.
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Not yet.It is just one of the french markrting tatics-by trying to grt into the good books of ST kineticsOriginally posted by recoil:i was wondering. you think singapore has got the rafale as its next fighter? i was looking thru straits times today and then there was this ad by the european defence companies. and it features the cruiser we're buying from them. and the copter by eurocopter that i assume is gonna come with it, and the rafale. no mention of the typhoon.
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Easily be detected by sonar... YES. But if the officer on in the ship is sleeping...
Sayonara. Sink or Dive.
There are rumours RSAF chosen Dassault Rafales as next generation fighter but this is just... rumour... 
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Every fighter plane bought IS a extra cost to our Singapore economy...
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Do you know?
New Zealand has no air force element...
(Too far for any aircraft to attack, I think... Unless its an naval aircraft with air refuel tankers
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Originally posted by Eiizumi:
They are unique in the sense that to attack them, you have to get pass Australia, which is not very easy. . .I think their naval element is quite lousy also. . .
[b]Do you know?
New Zealand has no air force element...
(Too far for any aircraft to attack, I think... Unless its an naval aircraft with air refuel tankers )[/b] -
Originally posted by laser51088:They are unique in the sense that to attack them, you have to get pass Australia, which is not very easy. . .I think their naval element is quite lousy also. . . I dont mean to be rude but who would want to attack New Zealand?? Half the time people forget it even exists...