SG media fears Koizumi's new cabinet will worsen Asia ties
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Singapore media fears Koizumi's new cabinet will worsen Asia ties
Tuesday, November 1, 2005 at 15:17 JST
SINGAPORE — Singapore's media expressed concern Tuesday that Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's appointment of hard-liners in his new Cabinet will increase tension between Japan and its Asian neighbors.
"Koizumi names hawks to Cabinet in reshuffle," blared a headline in Singapore's leading newspaper, The Straits Times. "Hard-liners likely to spell more tension in Japan's relations with its neighbors," the subheadline said. The state-run television news channel, Channel NewsAsia, aired the same concern in its news about Monday's reshuffle, saying "analysts say this will probably spell more tension with its Asian neighbors." -
We have more to worry about the hawks in China than in Japan. Why don't ST worry about the hawks in China?
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We have more to worry about China and N Korea than Japan
Besides, people dont learn. Woodrow Wilson already foresaw that Germany, if pushed to a corner, will be a threat again...
Japan been demanded to apologise again and again to no end...no wonder for the hawks in the Cabinet.. -
blame macarthur the bastard, they should have nuked the entire japanese race off the face of the earth, would have saved us a lotta trouble. oh wait a minute that was an ahmadineja whatever the fark comment...hmm
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did Germany become a threat because they were pushed to a corner? or it was a lousy WW1 treaty that did not bring the war to an end?Originally posted by laurence82:We have more to worry about China and N Korea than Japan
Besides, people dont learn. Woodrow Wilson already foresaw that Germany, if pushed to a corner, will be a threat again...
Japan been demanded to apologise again and again to no end...no wonder for the hawks in the Cabinet..
but woodrow wilson is right in identifying who could be the possible threat, it was germany, not britain nor france.
Before we learn how to handle possible threat, we need to learn how to identify the possible threat. -
Germany was emasculated and partitioned after WW1.Originally posted by sgdiehard:did Germany become a threat because they were pushed to a corner? or it was a lousy WW1 treaty that did not bring the war to an end?
but woodrow wilson is right in identifying who could be the possible threat, it was germany, not britain nor france.
Before we learn how to handle possible threat, we need to learn how to identify the possible threat. -
Germany was emasculated? They were made to pay for the costs of the war they started, I would do the same to whoever started the war in my territory, wouldnÂ’t you?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Germany was emasculated and partitioned after WW1.
and the treaty provided for the German military forces to be severely limited, for fear of future German aggression, logical?
Germany was partitioned? or given up German colonies and loss of territories Germany annexed or conquered in the relatively recent past? Check the history.
It was a compromising treaty and the great depression of the early thirties that gave rise to German nationalism and nazism, and the rise of Hitler to power, and WW2 in Europe.
The question, is whether the German then were aware of the destruction and death they inflicted on their neighbors? They had thought that the treaty brought poverty to them but forgot that they were defeated otherwise it would be their neighbors who would suffer.
The allied forces did a complete job in WW2, GermanÂ’s war making machines were totally and completely destroyed, all war criminals were caught, tried and sentenced even long after the war ended. Do we see a threat from Germany today, as the strongest n most powerful EU nation?
Can we say the same thing about Japan? Obviously not. The war criminals trials were not complete as the American needed bases in Japan to counter the rise of communism in China and Korea. Today, top Japanese war criminals in WW2 were respected as war heros, textbooks are being changed to paint Japan as victim of the war, Â…Â…
Young Japanese who have traveled outside of Japan might know what their ancestor did during WW2, tears rolled from the eyes of two of my lady colleagues from Japan when I told them that, on a combined business trip in shanghai. I donÂ’t blame the young generation of Japanese but with the ignorance of the young japanese and apathy (or ignorance) of the young Singapore on the Japanese atrocity in WW2, things will be forgotten. Then come a great depression, stock market melt downÂ…Â…history repeats itself, by we would then be forced to learn, and it might be necessary to wipe out all the aggressive elements totally, but thenÂ….we need to talk about human rights!!
This is old story, discussed many times, any better understanding? hmm....
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Ok this time you've got me.
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Its just for better understanding.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Ok this time you've got me.
*regrets typing above statement while half-asleep* [/list]
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Thats the same thing as saying the WW1 treaty bring push them to a cornerOriginally posted by sgdiehard:did Germany become a threat because they were pushed to a corner? or it was a lousy WW1 treaty that did not bring the war to an end?
but woodrow wilson is right in identifying who could be the possible threat, it was germany, not britain nor france.
Before we learn how to handle possible threat, we need to learn how to identify the possible threat.
with the ghastly amount of repatriation they have to pay during the great depression... -
Well, they fear sekali China and Japan go into conflict
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We shouldn't forget that Singaporean media is somehow pro-China.
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from the German's point of view, yes, but does it justify the start of another war?Originally posted by laurence82:Thats the same thing as saying the WW1 treaty bring push them to a corner
with the ghastly amount of repatriation they have to pay during the great depression...
from the point of countries who were invaded and destroyed by the war, war repatriation was necessary for rebuild, and the great depression came upon them also!
pro-china?? i thought politically they are more pro- america and japan??Originally posted by chikopekWe shouldn't forget that Singaporean media is somehow pro-China.... -
Don't forget France briefly occupied the Ruhr region when the reparations were overdue.
If China feels that an apology from Tokyo is overdue, it could jolly well occupy the Ryukyu islands. The only deterrence for their doing so is the presence of US air force bases in these islands. -
France occupied Ruhr after Germany was defeated in WW1 and its armed forces severly limited, and that happened immediately after the war, literally against a defenceless germany.Originally posted by iveco:Don't forget France briefly occupied the Ruhr region when the reparations were overdue.
If China feels that an apology from Tokyo is overdue, it could jolly well occupy the Ryukyu islands. The only deterrence for their doing so is the presence of US air force bases in these islands.
For 60 yrs japan has never apologise, the frequency of visits to respect the WW2 criminals increases recently, diaoyutai island remains a territorial dispute...to think that china would invade ryukyu islands to demand an apology is really imagination runs wild.
Militarily, JAF is more than enough to handle such an attack. Surely they remember battle for okinawa. They will need america only if there is an all out war between japan and the koreans and china combined. not likely that will happen either. -
That Rhur occupation is really too muchOriginally posted by iveco:Don't forget France briefly occupied the Ruhr region when the reparations were overdue.
If China feels that an apology from Tokyo is overdue, it could jolly well occupy the Ryukyu islands. The only deterrence for their doing so is the presence of US air force bases in these islands.
It led to rise of Hitler in a small sense -
Since when was war justified?Originally posted by sgdiehard:pro-china?? i thought politically they are more pro- america and japan??
Logical - If push come to shove, there will be a reaction.
Illogical - War can be justified. -
Can't the reaction be war?
Aren't you contradictimg yourself? -
Say again?Originally posted by Salman:Can't the reaction be war?
Aren't you contradictimg yourself? -
now china and korea should cosy up to the US and EU
to isolate japan
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Korea, China and Japan better move on and far away from this dangerous short-sighted militarism.Originally posted by boy in blues:now china and korea should cosy up to the US and EU
to isolate japan
and hopefully provoke them to start a war
The world does not need another flashpoint and whichever statesman can step back and be maganimous will be considered a hero. -
I think ASEAN, India, Japan and Korea should gang up to counter China.
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Thinking Japan and Korea could gang up to counter China show your naivety.Originally posted by Salman:I think ASEAN, India, Japan and Korea should gang up to counter China.
Thinking ASEAN should counter China show your stupidity.
Thinking India would want to counter China show your ignorance.
By advocating a war with China, or provoke Japan to start a war, both Salman and Boy In Blues have no respect for human lives. If your parents never thought you what is war, ask them what is life.
Read the article "Sino-Japan rivalry on the boil?" by Janadas Devan in today's ST. These are his last sentences. "The reason it (sino-jp relationship) appears to be destablising is that both Japan and the US seem intent on challgenging China without, simultaneously, trying to construct a political arrangement that might serve to better intergrate the rising giant into regional structures.....Can the rest of Asia - ex-Japan, and ex-US if necessary - act in time to save the sum of things?"
Can you think of something more positive and constructive? -
When push comes to shove, thats what will happen.
Japan and India has already signed strategic alliance packs.
Korean and Japanese navies have also have joint exercises.
Looks like the ignorant and naive one is you mister. -
