can anyone comfirm this
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ok i'm working in the ngee ann city and i heard this story from one of the cleaning aunties
their jobs are supposed to be under contractors and they're paid every few days, something like $300 for 20 days
one of the uncles just quited his job because his supervisor's cut his pay by $200 from his pay of $300, his side of the story's because he was late from lunch by around 5-10 mins
and another auntie's had a pay cut all the time because of something like a cubicle without toliet paper fine $30 and something about the dustbin fine $50
and she cried quite a few times while relating this to her colleagues
and she can't find another job because she's physically handicapped so she can't leave the current one
my question is, can anyone tell me if this is normally what is being done or is this one of the more extreme cases? -
wah that low pay ah? $300 how to survive...
Does singapore have any minimum wage scheme? -
for old ppl i dun think so
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Old people should just die.
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Oh...these are so called the singaporean elites trained and influenced by our top CEO or coe, chairmen of these and that in big oranisations of sg and blah blah......Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:ok i'm working in the ngee ann city and i heard this story from one of the cleaning aunties
their jobs are supposed to be under contractors and they're paid every few days, something like $300 for 20 days
one of the uncles just quited his job because his supervisor's cut his pay by $200 from his pay of $300, his side of the story's because he was late from lunch by around 5-10 mins
and another auntie's had a pay cut all the time because of something like a cubicle without toliet paper fine $30 and something about the dustbin fine $50
and she cried quite a few times while relating this to her colleagues
and she can't find another job because she's physically handicapped so she can't leave the current one
my question is, can anyone tell me if this is normally what is being done or is this one of the more extreme cases?
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There are only two solutions.
1. Insist on pay increase for uncles and aunties from for the contractors you hire but you get a pay cut of 2%. Fair?
2. Do it yourself like NS days. -
its employers market.
there are many who will exploit the situation. -
If you insist on minimum wage, the contractors will be forced to use foreign workers. Do you want more foreign workers?
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it has been happening since the twenth century in singapore... in addition, it's gettin' worse each year.... this is one of the extreme cases that you have seen...Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:ok i'm working in the ngee ann city and i heard this story from one of the cleaning aunties
their jobs are supposed to be under contractors and they're paid every few days, something like $300 for 20 days
one of the uncles just quited his job because his supervisor's cut his pay by $200 from his pay of $300, his side of the story's because he was late from lunch by around 5-10 mins
and another auntie's had a pay cut all the time because of something like a cubicle without toliet paper fine $30 and something about the dustbin fine $50
and she cried quite a few times while relating this to her colleagues
and she can't find another job because she's physically handicapped so she can't leave the current one
my question is, can anyone tell me if this is normally what is being done or is this one of the more extreme cases? -
this is the harsh working world in singapore... it's cruel cos no one is there to help u even u are from low-income group... assistant and support is very hard to get in singapore...Originally posted by Aveme:wah that low pay ah? $300 how to survive...
Does singapore have any minimum wage scheme?
nope... singapore doesn't... -
another one who doesn't know that he or she will grow old one day...Originally posted by Suicine:Old people should just die. -
sad isn't it...?Originally posted by dragg:its employers market.
there are many who will exploit the situation.
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nope... however, it is best to have a minimum wage...Originally posted by Salman:If you insist on minimum wage, the contractors will be forced to use foreign workers. Do you want more foreign workers? -
What to do? You can't fight globalisation right? You don't reduce costs and we will lose jobs. Which is worst? Low wage or no jobs?Originally posted by organization:it has been happening since the twenth century in singapore... in addition, it's gettin' worse each year.... this is one of the extreme cases that you have seen... -
ok.. 1st off, i am extremely sympathatic to the elderly in these 2 cases, but we have to see the whole story to give a fair judgement. like you say, it was in his words that he was deducted $200 for being 10mins late. what if he was always late for work? always late back from lunch? always slacking? you have to consider all these possibilities. being a supervisior, sometimes u have to do something to exert you authority or else those aunties and uncles will climb over your head and piss on it.Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:ok i'm working in the ngee ann city and i heard this story from one of the cleaning aunties
their jobs are supposed to be under contractors and they're paid every few days, something like $300 for 20 days
one of the uncles just quited his job because his supervisor's cut his pay by $200 from his pay of $300, his side of the story's because he was late from lunch by around 5-10 mins
and another auntie's had a pay cut all the time because of something like a cubicle without toliet paper fine $30 and something about the dustbin fine $50
and she cried quite a few times while relating this to her colleagues
and she can't find another job because she's physically handicapped so she can't leave the current one
my question is, can anyone tell me if this is normally what is being done or is this one of the more extreme cases? -
any way, this is the working world in singapore...
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anyway, the best is to take each step as it comes...Originally posted by Salman:What to do? You can't fight globalisation right? You don't reduce costs and we will lose jobs. Which is worst? Low wage or no jobs? -
This is a sick world.
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It's a class system, the rich ones will get richer, the poor one will get poorer.
A dialectric materialism world. -
i use the toliet he cleans everyday, and i found it relatively clean so i can't say anything about that, but i do not know about his punctualityOriginally posted by dibilo:ok.. 1st off, i am extremely sympathatic to the elderly in these 2 cases, but we have to see the whole story to give a fair judgement. like you say, it was in his words that he was deducted $200 for being 10mins late. what if he was always late for work? always late back from lunch? always slacking? you have to consider all these possibilities. being a supervisior, sometimes u have to do something to exert you authority or else those aunties and uncles will climb over your head and piss on it. -
No. Its an equality system where the rich will become poor and the poor will become rich. We Singaporeans will lose our jobs because we demand high pay and the Chinese gets to be richer cos they can do what we do for less and gets paid for it.Originally posted by babymac13:It's a class system, the rich ones will get richer, the poor one will get poorer.
A dialectric materialism world. -
The chinese u referring to the people from china rite?Originally posted by Salman:No. Its an equality system where the rich will become poor and the poor will become rich. We Singaporeans will lose our jobs because we demand high pay and the Chinese gets to be richer cos they can do what we do for less and gets paid for it.
That sound like an utopia where the rich will become poor and the poor will become rich in Singapore unless u talking about international context, where the growing developing countries are taking over from the developed countries.
I wonder is there really total democracy or it just an alientation of the people? -
We are talking internationally.
We are losing investment and jobs to China because they cost less.
The totality of it all is that we will become poorer and they will become richer to even out in the long run.
We Singaporeans have been profiteering for too long and its unfair. The Chinese need to be enriched to be fair to all. -
It's an unglamourous job: stinks, filthy and disgusting to the average office singaporean.
Pity the guys learn to clean toilets only in NS days while the girls probably never learn that at all.
Yeah, the next step is foreign workers....poor old aunties and uncles... -
What is so unglam about cleaning toilets? Don't you sh-it? Why do you look down on what the uncles and aunties do?