How can the government create more jobs
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The government can make the whole economy vibrant and then will be more jobs by doing the following:-
(1) Stop GLCs from competing against domestic businesses.
(2) Do not tax and recover all costs and do not double charge on land for essential government services so that there will be liquidity to create economic activities and vibrancy. Then the private sector will grow and create more jobs with more businesses, contracts. Since the 1980s when government went into business to compete against the people for business, the domestic sector has been languishing but there is no admission of this fact.
(3) Use more of surpluses to stimulate growth by investing such monies in growths and technology start-ups.
Once the government takes care not to hurt the economy then everything will be vibrant again. Then there is no need to give excuses or talk about more foreigners leaving and property becoming vacant. When domestic businesses are good there will be no such problems. -
Govt had rebuilt or expanded almost all government schools. Called PRIME.
They can actually save money by not doing so.
But for students and to create more jobs.... -
your suggestions will only fall on deaf ears.
this is a corporation after all. -
From my POV:
>> All companies operating in Singapore, MUST employ 70% local employees
>> Put a cap on number of foreign workers coming here for jobs
>> Reserve more seats for local students in our Uni than for foreign students
There. -
Oh one more:
>> make it more feasible for employers to hire older workers -
I dun even think it is the GLCs that cause lesser jobs
It is NTUC rather, getting more biz under its umbrella -
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Of course they can but they pay you the same as those cheap foreign workers.
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The foreign talents that we want to import should be of the higher grades of skills which we do not produce or are short of. This kind of import is worth it and will help to create more jobs with multiplier effect.
But MOM does not seem to differentiate the grade that we want and the grade the we already have probably because EDB and MTI do not have the means to get people to start up new technology ventures so there is headway to create more advanced technology start-ups. They have to learn the holistic way of creating new technology start-ups from the Taiwanese who succeeded in stealing the lead in computers from the Japanese and West from the 1970s.
So our whole economy is stuck at the bottom rung because of lack of holistic approach on the part of EDB and MTI and at the end we cannot upgrade our economy and will have to get stuck and make do with lower grades of lower skill foreign workers to take over our citizens' jobs. -
Heck, will they EVER listen???
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The foreign talents that we want to import should be of the higher grades of skills which we do not produce or are short of. This kind of import is worth it and will help to create more jobs with multiplier effect.
Do we pay these people well?
How do you run a grading system given the complex world economy we exists in? By grades in school? Won't that be the schorlars? What about the non schorlars? We don't import non schorlars?
But MOM does not seem to differentiate the grade that we want and the grade the we already have probably because EDB and MTI do not have the means to get people to start up new technology ventures so there is headway to create more advanced technology start-ups. They have to learn the holistic way of creating new technology start-ups from the Taiwanese who succeeded in stealing the lead in computers from the Japanese and West from the 1970s.
How can our economy be bottom rung when per capita GDP is almost USD30K?
So our whole economy is stuck at the bottom rung because of lack of holistic approach on the part of EDB and MTI and at the end we cannot upgrade our economy and will have to get stuck and make do with lower grades of lower skill foreign workers to take over our citizens' jobs.
Have you been reading the news? -
quote:The foreign talents that we want to import should be of the higher grades of skills which we do not produce or are short of. This kind of import is worth it and will help to create more jobs with multiplier effect.
Do we pay these people well?
The key issue is not whether foreign workers are paid more or less than our own citizens alone or whether employing them will help our employers save some costs. Our government must study the policy of employing foreign workers in a more thorough manner.
Not every issue is so simplistic and only one-dimensional as by saving some monies in employing foreign workers we may end up getting over-simplistic answer and results.
By opening up our employment opportunities to foreigners, we should consider also that there are social costs and issue of undermining of our own political stability due to neglect of our own citizens in areas of providing them with support in time of crisis or education, training and giving of right opportunities for the right economic upgrading.
My view is that by importing foreign workers, even if our employers can save some short-term gains as a society we will have to provide houses and facilities and other wellbeing to foreigners as well. There might be a lot of injustice in the long run. At the end if our economy is at a downturn and we have to bear with empty houses, more wastages and under-utilized facilities. Is there a higher cost to our economy by importing too many foreigners?
Therefore citizens should not just accept the minister's over-simplistic reason that we need foreigners to create jobs as the real answer might not be that simple.
My view is that there should be more thorough study of the issues of loyalty to our own citizens as not every thing can be based on dollars or cents.
Isn't it time to study all the past policies more objectively to avoid problems due to simplistic assumptions often adopted by the over-pragmatic government. We should have a government that is loyal to training and upgrading and job opportunities to citizens first and only when foreigners are in possession of the skills we do not have do we grant them this kind of opportunity. For quite some time now citizens have been suffering some form of disloyalty to our own citizens and the government has not been listening.
Many recentl news reports have already unveiled employers' practice of switching to foreign workers to save some costs neglecting other aspects of like social and political trade-off. Does anyone understand the issue in proper perspective so that we will not end up with many problems when all the local companies are turning to short-term gains.
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But MOM does not seem to differentiate the grade that we want and the grade the we already have probably because EDB and MTI do not have the means to get people to start up new technology ventures so there is headway to create more advanced technology start-ups. They have to learn the holistic way of creating new technology start-ups from the Taiwanese who succeeded in stealing the lead in computers from the Japanese and West from the 1970s.How do you run a grading system given the complex world economy we exists in? By grades in school? Won't that be the schorlars? What about the non schorlars? We don't import non schorlars?
Can anyone really say that our ministers or our many scholars in the public sector can save us from rstructural unemployments or upgrade our economy to value-adding or advanced technological economy to uplift our competitiveness.
What did our ministers and scholars in public service do during the last two recessions. More significantly what did they propose to do to get out of the last two recessions.
All I could remember is that all the ministers only gave excuses that Singapore was too vulnerable to external economic downturn and that there is nothing that can be done to save jobs due the phenomenon called structural unemployments. They conveniently forgot that some of the tiger economies were turning around faster than Singapore because they were more resilent owing to their less reliance on foreign investments and more nurturing of their own local companies and falents.
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So our whole economy is stuck at the bottom rung because of lack of holistic approach on the part of EDB and MTI and at the end we cannot upgrade our economy and will have to get stuck and make do with lower grades of lower skill foreign workers to take over our citizens' jobs.How can our economy be bottom rung when per capita GDP is almost USD30K?
Yes up to the 1970s, we do have growths. However, since then no matter how many economic restructuring or reviews we have not yet upgraded the economy to value-adding or technologically advanced economy as was being built by other Asian tigers. Clinging on to the past success forgetting that we have lost ground in important key areas is no solution. The comparison made on GDP without looking closely at our own people's sector of the economy will not answer this issue honestly and objectively. The fact that we have surpluses in the government does not mean that people are successful.
Have you been reading the news? -
at the rate we are going our govt wont be able to generate enough jobs for graduates.
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If the economy continues to grow, then there is no reason why the Singapore economy cannot accomodate incoming graduates. My only point of contention is with regards to the places allocated to foreign students in our local unis. These people must serve out their bonds working in SG itself. Now that seems to be cannaballising local grads imho
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Even if the economy continues to grow we should still examine whether the assumptions made in the past about foreigners' contributions to the economy are correct and until all the fundamental issues are resollved such a policy should be carried out only with care not to hurt the citizens' wellbeing and opportunities.Originally posted by meleagent:If the economy continues to grow, then there is no reason why the Singapore economy cannot accomodate incoming graduates. My only point of contention is with regards to the places allocated to foreign students in our local unis. These people must serve out their bonds working in SG itself. Now that seems to be cannaballising local grads imho
A few employers' complaints about difficulty in getting local workers should be looked into in wider perspective like how we do enlarge job scope among existing workers to embrace certain jobs less popular so that we do not open up the flood gate to admit all kinds of foreign workers to take over the citizens' jobs.
If people are told that foreign workers will make our economy more competitive, such policy should be openly discussed with understanding by all and not closed within the mind of the minister or a few senior ministers without further discussions. -
But how can we attract the good foreigners if we don't pay them well?
The key issue is not whether foreign workers are paid more or less than our own citizens alone or whether employing them will help our employers save some costs. Our government must study the policy of employing foreign workers in a more thorough manner.
Thats right, you put it so simplistic. Why don't you give specifics as to how the govt can do what you said?
Not every issue is so simplistic and only one-dimensional as by saving some monies in employing foreign workers we may end up getting over-simplistic answer and results.
They already did and explained it very well, we do need foreign workers.
By opening up our employment opportunities to foreigners, we should consider also that there are social costs and issue of undermining of our own political stability due to neglect of our own citizens in areas of providing them with support in time of crisis or education, training and giving of right opportunities for the right economic upgrading.
The only foreigners who get housing are the construction workers. The rest paid for it themselves and boost the property and contruction sectors which is good.
My view is that by importing foreign workers, even if our employers can save some short-term gains as a society we will have to provide houses and facilities and other wellbeing to foreigners as well. There might be a lot of injustice in the long run. At the end if our economy is at a downturn and we have to bear with empty houses, more wastages and under-utilized facilities. Is there a higher cost to our economy by importing too many foreigners?
I don't think the govt is simplistic over the matter. It is you who is simplistic about it.
Therefore citizens should not just accept the minister's over-simplistic reason that we need foreigners to create jobs as the real answer might not be that simple.
Loyalty? But Singaporeans are not loyal to their employers. People just walk out of jobs in the boom years.
My view is that there should be more thorough study of the issues of loyalty to our own citizens as not every thing can be based on dollars or cents.
I notice you like to complain but provide no solutions. Whats the point?
Isn't it time to study all the past policies more objectively to avoid problems due to simplistic assumptions often adopted by the over-pragmatic government. We should have a government that is loyal to training and upgrading and job opportunities to citizens first and only when foreigners are in possession of the skills we do not have do we grant them this kind of opportunity. For quite some time now citizens have been suffering some form of disloyalty to our own citizens and the government has not been listening.
Are you loyal yourself?
Many recentl news reports have already unveiled employers' practice of switching to foreign workers to save some costs neglecting other aspects of like social and political trade-off. Does anyone understand the issue in proper perspective so that we will not end up with many problems when all the local companies are turning to short-term gains.
Do you realise that we are richer than Taiwan with lower unemployment? Our system is more successful.
But MOM does not seem to differentiate the grade that we want and the grade the we already have probably because EDB and MTI do not have the means to get people to start up new technology ventures so there is headway to create more advanced technology start-ups. They have to learn the holistic way of creating new technology start-ups from the Taiwanese who succeeded in stealing the lead in computers from the Japanese and West from the 1970s.
Do you also realise that Taiwanese have no loyalty in business? They hire foreign workers too and they move their factories to China w/o any restrictions.
So how do we objectively grade foreigners? Please advice.
Can anyone really say that our ministers or our many scholars in the public sector can save us from rstructural unemployments or upgrade our economy to value-adding or advanced technological economy to uplift our competitiveness.
I think they did a great job. In fact, they averted a recession in 98 even when much of Asia went into deep recession.
What did our ministers and scholars in public service do during the last two recessions. More significantly what did they propose to do to get out of the last two recessions.
All I could remember is that all the ministers only gave excuses that Singapore was too vulnerable to external economic downturn and that there is nothing that can be done to save jobs due the phenomenon called structural unemployments. They conveniently forgot that some of the tiger economies were turning around faster than Singapore because they were more resilent owing to their less reliance on foreign investments and more nurturing of their own local companies and falents.
Growth not only in 70s but 80s, 90s and today too.
Yes up to the 1970s, we do have growths. However, since then no matter how many economic restructuring or reviews we have not yet upgraded the economy to value-adding or technologically advanced economy as was being built by other Asian tigers. Clinging on to the past success forgetting that we have lost ground in important key areas is no solution. The comparison made on GDP without looking closely at our own people's sector of the economy will not answer this issue honestly and objectively. The fact that we have surpluses in the government does not mean that people are successful.
The greatest growth occured in the 90s. Looks like you do not know the Singapore economy very well.
Can I suggest you do more research before your next post? -
You want fact so here are some facts to tell us how well Singapore has performed.
Read the latest rate of migration of Singaporeans (indicating brain drain and explaining the dropping economic competitiveness from the 1970s) by comparison with other higher migrating countries:-
1. Singapore 26.45 migrant(s)/1,000 population
2. Qatar 20.12 migrant(s)/1,000 population
3. Anguilla 17.23 migrant(s)/1,000 population
4. Kuwait 14.31 migrant(s)/1,000 population
5. Croatia 13.37 migrant(s)/1,000 population
6. Cayman Islands 12.58 migrant(s)/1,000 population
7. San Marino 11.45 migrant(s)/1,000 population
8. British Virgin Islands 11.39 migrant(s)/1,000 population
9. Afghanistan 11.11 migrant(s)/1,000 population
10. Sierra Leone 10.23 migrant(s)/1,000 population
11. French Guiana 10.14 migrant(s)/1,000 population
12. Luxembourg 9.26 migrant(s)/1,000 population
13. Macau 9.25 migrant(s)/1,000 population
14. Bosnia and Herzegovina 8.91 migrant(s)/1,000 population
15. Eritrea 7.91 migrant(s)/1,000 population
16. Hong Kong 7.90 migrant(s)/1,000 population
17. Monaco 7.85 migrant(s)/1,000 population
18. Jordan 7.18 migrant(s)/1,000 population
19. Andorra 6.82 migrant(s)/1,000 population
20. Canada 6.13 migrant(s)/1,000 population
21. Somalia 5.96 migrant(s)/1,000 population
22. Liechtenstein 4.98 migrant(s)/1,000 population
23. New Zealand 4.71 migrant(s)/1,000 population
24. Ireland 4.69 migrant(s)/1,000 population
25. Palau 4.45 migrant(s)/1,000 population
26. Australia 4.19 migrant(s)/1,000 population
So Singapore leaders have done such a great job that many people decide to part for greener pasture again and again? May be they should replace all the citizens and start all over again from a clean slate since the citizens are not worth of the government. -
I think people like Singapore, thats why they migrate here.
But some Singaporeans are disloyal and ungrateful, thats why they criticise govt. -
You heard of the chinese phrase: Scold is love?Originally posted by Salman:But some Singaporeans are disloyal and ungrateful, thats why they criticise govt.
You shoud be happy for the gov that many people here LOVE the gov! -
I'm scolding the ungrateful people too, does that mean i love you?
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lol
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Are you saying our govt is beyong criticism? Are they above responding and answering to the people?Originally posted by Salman:I'm scolding the ungrateful people too, does that mean i love you?
No one is perfect and definitely our govt can do better. Hard work and dilligence has been replaced by complacency and arrogance. From lavishly spending a ridiculous sum on a worthless name branding exercise to know-it-all theorists who sit in air-conditioned rooms and decree that the ERP system works.
By offering suggestions and criticisms, the people actually help the govt realise things and move forward. After all, they are the ones who want feedback and for us to voice concerns. -
what the govt should do is to reduce foreign labours.
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Nope, I am saying that much of the criticism of the govt are simply nonsensical. As far as I am concerned, Robert Teh's criticisms are nonsensical. He expects the goivt to micro manage as if we are communists. I say let the companies decide whom they want to hire. There are already quotas, levees and restrictions on the hiring of foreigners. We do need them to increase competition and lower costs. The world don't owe us anything like Robert Teh think the govt owe us. We either compete or go bust in this global economy.
I will ensure Robert that the govt will keep all jobs in Singapore for Singaporeans if Robert can ensure that the world will buy whatever we produce at the price we decide.
Singapore is very well managed and the govt should be given credit for it. Many of the people who criticise our govt should go overseas and see how other govts run their country. -
the other govts dont pay themselves 100k a month too.Originally posted by Salman:Nope, I am saying that much of the criticism of the govt are simply nonsensical. As far as I am concerned, Robert Teh's criticisms are nonsensical. He expects the goivt to micro manage as if we are communists. I say let the companies decide whom they want to hire. There are already quotas, levees and restrictions on the hiring of foreigners. We do need them to increase competition and lower costs. The world don't owe us anything like Robert Teh think the govt owe us. We either compete or go bust in this global economy.
I will ensure Robert that the govt will keep all jobs in Singapore for Singaporeans if Robert can ensure that the world will buy whatever we produce at the price we decide.
Singapore is very well managed and the govt should be given credit for it. Many of the people who criticise our govt should go overseas and see how other govts run their country.
dont talk like they are so great. they are paid a lot to do the job.
if they do well it is what they are supposed to do.
if they dont do well we have the right to voice out.
