Peace in Paris.........only if partition country.........
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Peace in France- only through independent Paris-tinian (Palastinian) state under Arab rule.............just like in Israel.........
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then we will have a palestinian in many countries.
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great idea! Split France up like the French suggest spliiting up Israel to solve problems.
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split the world into half.
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All the "sleeper" cells planted around europe awakening?
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No, not split the world but send them all to Paksitan where they love to kill each others, give em guns and let them kill each other, then there will be peace on earth.
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There can only be peace in Paris (and all over) when the right-wing governments resign and hadn over the reins of admin to leftist coalitions.
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The present French govt is ultra left. What are you talking about?
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don't forget Malaysia allowed herself to be chopped off by Singapore politicians so that there could be peace and not war.........like lizard giving up its tail..........
Do you think they are happy with this surrender of 500 Sq Km of lnd, the world's busiest port etc..........when the leaders could have used ISA to detain Singapore politicians, and keep Malaysia intact....?
Malaysia actually had other options...........Singapore exists because Tengku was resonable and was willing to surrender jurisdiction over Spore island........
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i agree to this statement that they could have crushed us during that time..... but was it beneficial for both parties? we might had ended up in a deadlock like china and taiwan, where we NEEDED each other to prosper.....Originally posted by Dr Who:don't forget Malaysia allowed herself to be chopped off by Singapore politicians so that there could be peace and not war.........like lizard giving up its tail..........
Do you think they are happy with this surrender of 500 Sq Km of lnd, the world's busiest port etc..........when the leaders could have used ISA to detain Singapore politicians, and keep Malaysia intact....?
Malaysia actually had other options...........Singapore exists because Tengku was resonable and was willing to surrender jurisdiction over Spore island........
Singporeans therefore should not be too proud........we were lucky......we could have been crushed in 1965.........
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You fellas didn't study history did you?
The reason why Msia kicked us out was because BN couldn't handle PAP. They thought that we couldn't survive on our own and would ultimately return to Malaysia on their terms. It was a wrong tactical move on their part and they regreted it deeply. -
Only president Chirac. The cabinet is right-leaning. Those protesters hate the police and the Interior ministry. If Sarkozy steps down, maybe the riots will stop.Originally posted by Salman:The present French govt is ultra left. What are you talking about?
Bear in mind that Sarkozy has presidential ambitions, and could resort to ruthless means to stamp his credentials. -
Your story is Singpore's view of history..........Malaysia don't see it this way...... they see it as betrayal by Tunku........the silly weak minded PM.......they think Tunku should have had used ISA......afterall, Singapore had only 2 battalions of troops......one old patrol boat......no air-force........
If that had happed, today Singapore will be like Penang.........a sleepy town ...relex lah.........now won't that be nice? -
Read some comments by Europeans(esp French) on the riots,it seems that the underlying issues are the proverty of North African immigrants and failure to integrate them into the society.The riot was sparked when two teenagers, believed to be of African origin, were electrocuted after clambering into a power sub-station while apparently fleeing police.
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Originally posted by Dr Who:Your story is Singpore's view of history..........Malaysia don't see it this way...... they see it as betrayal by Tunku........the silly weak minded PM.......they think Tunku should have had used ISA......afterall, Singapore had only 2 battalions of troops......one old patrol boat......no air-force........
If that had happed, today Singapore will be like Penang.........a sleepy town ...relex lah.........now won't that be nice?
I can't imagine....But Bintan will be visible!
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Not only Chirac but De Villepin too.Originally posted by iveco:Only president Chirac. The cabinet is right-leaning. Those protesters hate the police and the Interior ministry. If Sarkozy steps down, maybe the riots will stop.
Bear in mind that Sarkozy has presidential ambitions, and could resort to ruthless means to stamp his credentials.
The entire French system is socialists to say the least, if they lean anymore left, they would become communists and the Muslims would all be slaughtered in one day. -
Why would TAR want to betray Msia? Did Singapore pay him millions to get out?Originally posted by Dr Who:Your story is Singpore's view of history..........Malaysia don't see it this way...... they see it as betrayal by Tunku........the silly weak minded PM.......they think Tunku should have had used ISA......afterall, Singapore had only 2 battalions of troops......one old patrol boat......no air-force........
If that had happed, today Singapore will be like Penang.........a sleepy town ...relex lah.........now won't that be nice?
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If the police force enjoy beating up coloured people, I can only say the country's political system has swung all the way to the right.Originally posted by Salman:Not only Chirac but De Villepin too.
The entire French system is socialists to say the least, if they lean anymore left, they would become communists and the Muslims would all be slaughtered in one day. -
Algerians are not coloured people. The French are not racist, its these criminals who are at fault. If I am the French police, I will have no mercy.
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it was a political move by tunku to get singapore out as we were getting into Johore and so on.
it was the smartest move by tunku. If he would have used violence or ISA, he would have lost. We are like a cancer to him, chopping us off is better than going chemo before we spread inwards. If he delay a bit more, we will get a chance to move upwards. He know there was no way malaysian leaders could manage singapore politicians. Our politicians are getting more popular.
He shook us by suddenly chop as off. Bye bye you are on your own. so no more PAP threat. he happy and relief and so does many BN. He never think of the future legal problems he brought on us today. But he won and rule happily. A tiny island that live off the mainland. sure to die sooner or later. sure to beg for help.
They soon carried on to win many elections in east and west. THey kick us out but keep us international status as one of the state. now not sure.
If not today, PAP HQ in singapore will still be tie with BN over running oil rich malaysia. ANd we will still be living of the income of the oil rich malaysia, cheap petrol, corruption ,housing. pirated VCD, no need high rise flats. life still goes on.
either way, people living in singapore will still survive just like penang, johore langkawi. only different life style. and the old causeway will be around for thousands of years, low population, relax. kampongs still around.
history may be different but we still live on.They kicking out make us think different and probably even facing more hardships. Thats why many retire rent out hdb flat and live in malaysia to stretch retirement money longer. -
Job of any policeman is to protect lives and properties and provide security to citizens. Riots are big threats to country security.Originally posted by Salman:Algerians are not coloured people. The French are not racist, its these criminals who are at fault. If I am the French police, I will have no mercy.
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thats what happens when you let lazy middle eastern immigrants into the country. if they dont like it they can jolly well fark back to alegria or morocco.
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The greater problems, today, are in the thinking and the attitude of the white Europeans.Originally posted by vito_corleone:thats what happens when you let lazy middle eastern immigrants into the country. if they dont like it they can jolly well fark back to alegria or morocco.
It is not what the white Europeans do or say. It is more what the white Europeans feel and think, not so much about others, but themselve. It is not even whether their national policies may or may be racial inclined.
In a globalised, integrated world with fast changing technology and hence way of life, it is whether the old WWII model of democracy, the doctrine of secular state and racial blind policies still work well.
The white Europeans may not openly or relunctant to admit being a superior race and their social policies may no longer have racial slang. But behind their culture and attitude, it is another thing altogether.
They still think that they can contribute to the world by taking in poor wretch black, brown, yellow etc and give them a better way life, by turning them (eventually if not immediately) into superior French, English, German gentlemen and ladies.
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The real problem are the Muslim immigrants, they think theirs is a superior culture and refuse to integrate.
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How do you explain the problem of African who are not muslim?
The real problem are the Muslim immigrants, they think theirs is a superior culture and refuse to integrate
as well as the white European who think they can change the thinking, and culture of others.