Arrested and cuffed over 3/4-tank rule
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The handcuffing part is just damned silly. Shows you how seriously a view the government takes towards ensuring that Singaporeans spend their hard earned money locally instead of buying from cheaper neighbours. Money is everything to them.
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In daily living, there are many society norms. This person chose not to do the normal thing (settle for composition fine). Thus, being extraordinary, and not being a famous person, I don't think there are valid grounds to grant him a "release on his own .... (dunno what is that term)"Originally posted by BillyBong:The question then would be: why was there a need to post bail?
Was he deemed a flight risk? Was his crime so serious that it warrents the need for bail?
For all you know, he could be perceived by the duty staff as a "Mystery Customer" from the SPF's internal quality dept, out to test internal procedures.
Anyway, I can't wait for SPF's reply. Whether it is something like "he asked for the book and got the book thrown at him" or is something like "We are sorry for his experience with SPF". Let's wait for the outcome. -
the term is recognizance.
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give you easy way out but you don't take it, therefore kenna handcuffed. the policing here is really strong man.
let this be a lesson for all of us who don't want to take the "easy" way out. -
haiya, why go after the ikan-bili for flouting the rule when artificially inflated oil and petrol prices are fattening the oil/petrol companies?
They should relax the rule to allow local prices to dampen.
They could even allow and promote energy-saving diesel-engine cars to go on the roads.
Do something about high petrol prices. Catching ikan-bilis doesn't help bring petrol prices down.
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All of you missed the point : He was offered to pay a fine, but he turned down the offer !!! That means the case would be fought in Court, and he would be an Accused Person Vs the State.
The Accused would need be charged in Court, and his fingerprints/ photos taken and would be registered with the Criminal Records Office.
If he is subsequently convicted by the Court, the conviction would be a Criminal Record, even if the offence was a traffic offence.
So, please pay your traffic fines........even if you feel wronged. It is better to pay and following this, write in to explain. If you ignore a traffic summons, you can be ARRESTED, HANDCUFFED and treated as a CRIMINAL if the Court issues a Warrant-of -Arrest against you for not paying your fine and not turning up in court. -
In thsi case, it was more serious than a traffic offence......he was like evading Customs Duties.....running away from paying taxes......pay fine lah, then everything OK.......also hope the petrol gauge was not tampered with, otherwise sure go to Jail....
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Yeah lor............Originally posted by ObviousMan:My Dear Lawrence Seow,
What you have done is no minor offence lah. Everyday, so many Singapore vehicles go to Malaysia – if all don’t obey the law you know how many millions the petrol companies in Singapore are going to lose? Wait until they reveal you the Sadistic of how many millions will be lost – you see, fare cheats deprive Singapore bus companies of $9 million a year.
Since the majority of Singapore citizens donÂ’t earn the salary of our incorruptible ministers, it is therefore highly possible that 99% of Singapore citizens are morally corrupted. As such, they must be treated like criminal mah, especially since you have been found to break the law -- you are already a criminal, no longer just a suspect, understand bo?
Singapore legal system is world class one lah. For example, Ah How, convicted killer of Huang Na, can get across to Malaysia because that time he is only a murder suspect, not convicted yet. Mr Lawrence, you are confirmed to have broken the law what, so how to compare with him? That is why you must be handcuffed. If Ah How escaped, at most one life lost without explanation only what – no money lost. Skali you escaped, who will compensate for the lost of revenue? This is Singapore you know -- must get your priorities right before you complain lah.
Regards,
ObviousMan
this is singapore you know..........? World class leh......... -
question: how come the actions of a few people at the point of arrest, becomes the actions of the gabrament?
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Because of petrol tax revenue, gov treat the 3/4 rule too seriously. Half tank would have been better and easier to manage. sometimes its really hard to get 3/4 fill up. Its like , pay petrol tax money first before you drive out of singapore.
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As you said, its the gabrament.Originally posted by the Bear:question: how come the actions of a few people at the point of arrest, becomes the actions of the gabrament?
Without the rotting fish, there would be no market. -
so, do we blame your actions on your parents?
seriously..
anyway, we've heard one side of the story... we have yet to hear what the other side says... i know for a fact that the decision to cuff someone is not taken lightly... and the people who are issued cuffs know that...Originally posted by LazerLordz:As you said, its the gabrament.
Without the rotting fish, there would be no market. -
Let's wait and seeOriginally posted by the Bear:so, do we blame your actions on your parents?
seriously..
anyway, we've heard one side of the story... we have yet to hear what the other side says... i know for a fact that the decision to cuff someone is not taken lightly... and the people who are issued cuffs know that... -
Because they came up with the stupid 3/4 tank rule. With the government so keep to cut costs by cutting jobs and outsourcing to cheap labour, why is it wrong for the people to outsource their petrol from malaysia? Hypocrisy by the government.Originally posted by the Bear:question: how come the actions of a few people at the point of arrest, becomes the actions of the gabrament? -
the stupid rule is necessary to protect their earnings.Originally posted by av98m:Because they came up with the stupid 3/4 tank rule. With the government so keep to cut costs by cutting jobs and outsourcing to cheap labour, why is it wrong for the people to outsource their petrol from malaysia? Hypocrisy by the government.
remember MIW runs singapore like a company.
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Wait till election time comes, then the govt gives handouts and everything forgotten.Originally posted by Salman:This is just so silly!
Even caught for using handphone while driving gets handphone and SIM card confiscated, fine $1000 and ban driving for 8 months.
The govt is great but I will vote opposition just on this matter alone. Otherwise the govt don't know when to stop milking money from citizens over minor offences.
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No leiiiiiii, I think we are talking about the selective high-handedness of the police here.Originally posted by macjoe:haiya, why go after the ikan-bili for flouting the rule when artificially inflated oil and petrol prices are fattening the oil/petrol companies?
They should relax the rule to allow local prices to dampen.
They could even allow and promote energy-saving diesel-engine cars to go on the roads.
Do something about high petrol prices. Catching ikan-bilis doesn't help bring petrol prices down. -
Guys, please remember that The Bear works at WDL checkpoint. Hence he will always side his own colleagues, no matter what they do or however stupid the 3/4 tank rule is.
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yup.. which is why i will go find out when i'm back at work what the heck happened
btw, i'm not one who is as blind and stupid as iveco and the rest of the morons up high... if i screwed up, or when my guys screw up, we admit it.. face the music and move on...
we DO NOT cover up..
again, what you see is one point of view... let's see what the other point of view is when i get back to workOriginally posted by iveco:Guys, please remember that The Bear works at WDL checkpoint. Hence he will always side his own colleagues, no matter what they do or however stupid the 3/4 tank rule is. -
and that reminds me of the seriousness and extreme penalty of weekend car cheats. Save $20 can get into real jailed time if repeated. And yet judge talking about probation and no jailed time for four footballers caught for statuatary gang rape of underage girl.
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under the OSA, we...oooops, i mean YOU are not supposed to say it out mah....dun chuang bang us...we want to tan-jiak one leh...jin GY leh u....mai aunt nee mah...Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):this is singapore what.... police all too busy wayanging with minor things.. then big big things they act blur never see....standard SOP they taught in PA (both PA) i think.... -
definitely....see dat time they still dare check for 3/4 tank boh...hahahaha...Originally posted by Croaking_Toad:Wait till election time comes, then the govt gives handouts and everything forgotten. -
There is something very wrong in the whole system of government with no one among the judges, prosecutors or ministers being able to understand that for minor offence citizens should not be hand-cuffed.
Why treat the ordinary citizens like criminals for something like not topping up petrol which in the first place is a highly doubtful law as it is clearly unconstitutional to stop people from purchasing petrol using his own monies at any place he likes. This shows that the government has lost touch with all the basics of good government. Government is elected by people to look after them and protect them against the criminals not to behave like intimidators against the people.
This case can be regarded as abuse of power as hand-cuffing is most uncalled for minor offence as other remedies are available to the state in dealing with an offender. Law is made by people to regulate society and punishment is meted out only to those who are wilful or incorrigible in breaching serious offences against aws and orders.
Why use the laws to show off authority or intimidating the citizens. Even if an offender escape custody there are many ways he can be dealt with such as summons which is normally meted out even to serious traffic offenders like speeding. Have you come across speeding motorists being hand-cuffed for refusing to pay fine on the spot. -
I totally agree with what Robert said.
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Hi Pat33,
What is wrong is wrong. Citizens have duty to state the fact. The rest is up to our next batch of MPs since the old batch cannot do anything.