Citizens probably gave up trying a long time ago.
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Oh...so when CEOs make a S$700 million mistake, they get a pat on the back with words of 'try harder next time'?Originally posted by Salman:We all make mistakes. I think this is a case of honest mistake.
What punishment do you want her to bear?
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So what do you expect them to do to punish her?
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A temporary stagnation of her career path and a removal from her position would be adequate.Originally posted by Salman:So what do you expect them to do to punish her?
That would in no way compromise the Temasek Structure and will go a long way to maintain the consequence that a failure of epic proportions will be dealt with, regardless of who you are.
It is the consequence of inaction for her micropolis flop that has led to bitter resentment among the people and therefore the convenient labelling of 'neopotism' within our GLC and govt sector. -
I think she did take a break after her micropolis failure.
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Gov got double standards?
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You also have many standards, just like the govt.
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Originally posted by Salman:You also have many standards, just like the govt.
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so how genius are our scholars compared to "such" geniuses as einstein, bill gates or steve jobs?Originally posted by Salman:There are indeed many geniuses among these schorlars ...
Such geniuses (einstien,bill gates,steve jobs ...) are far and few in between. ...
you seem to apply the word "genius" too liberally to scholars ... for if they do measure up to the term, then by virtue of few and far between, there would not have been too many of them, would there?
besides, seeing the quality of "scholarly" decisions and suggestions by masses, there doesn't seem to be much that separates the former from the latter ... -
im trying.. im trying..
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i have no doubts that those who are groomed to be leaders have exceptional abilities. i know because i know some of them. but since i know some of them i also know that there isn't much that separates them from us.Originally posted by Salman:... I can tell you that the cream of Singapore do work for the govt.
also, having been on either side of the fence, my take is that those in the govt have it easy. there's less real hard work than showmanship, for everything's done by contractors eventually.
if you're referring to GLCs, then by virtue of the first word of the three-lettered acronym, any mismanagement is the fault of your so-called "cream".
The private sector has been mismanaged by second rate Singaporeans, thats why very few listed companies make it big regionally.
if you're referring to SMEs, then i feel it's very unfair that they should be blamed for not being more successful than they ought to be when all the most profitable businesses have been monopolised and all that are left for them are scraps. without a strong base with which to carve a niche, how can the local firm gather enough muscle to spring overseas? when all that an individual is left with is sell char kuay tiao, what entreprenuerial avenues are available to him? -
I still remember all the scholars and so-called geniuses could say to the daily newspapers during the last prolonged recessions was that they could not do anything about unemployments or massive MNC layoffs due to the structural nature of unemployments or some insurmountable external factors.
But these scholars know how to say that people must not be too choosy about jobs and must go for re-training etc.
As to my many suggestions to feedback unit three years ago to come up with economic master plan to create value-adding industries and put our many vacant lands and other available resources to create employments, there came no replies whatsoever.
If citizens are being told that we have so many talents among scholars deserving to be paid the highest salaries, surely there will be some solutions to problems, not having to wait for world recovery or being the last to recover from the last two recessions among the Asian Tigers. -
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yeah, like sell char kuay tiao ...Originally posted by Salman:Don't blame govt foir going into businesses, there are lots of other businesses that you can get into.
there's nothing wrong per se except the unfair rules and decisions that help carve a monopoly for itself at the expense of real competition. by forcing out competition, the people are denied avenues with which to exercise their entrepreneurial talents and are forced to accept a miserable existence working directly or indirectly for govt. without real competition, some GLCs become complacent resulting in the people getting short changed with lower quality service. essentially, by controlling everything, the creative energies of the people are bottled up resulting in many unfulfilling lives ...
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yeah, like sell char kuay tiao ...
Wats wrong w selling char kway teow? You can even by a gigolo if you like. The govt won't bother you.
What unfair rules? please be specific.
there's nothing wrong per se except the unfair rules and decisions that help carve a monopoly for itself at the expense of real competition.
Govt don't force out competition, if you study carefully, they usually create new businesses for new markets. Even if they do encroach on existing markets, the introduction of competition is what drives entrepreneurialship and competition.
by forcing out competition, the people are denied avenues with which to exercise their entrepreneurial talents and are forced to accept a miserable existence working directly or indirectly for govt.
There are no monopoly laws out there. Entrepreneurs are free to take on anyone they like. A real entrepreneur will not complain abt lack of opportunities. Its not the govt's fault.
without real competition, some GLCs become complacent resulting in the people getting short changed with lower quality service. essentially, by controlling everything, the creative energies of the people are bottled up resulting in many unfulfilling lives ... -
Can give some examples?Originally posted by Salman:Its a free country sir, you are free to do what you want.
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Originally posted by Salman:
Wats wrong w selling char kway teow? You can even by a gigolo if you like. The govt won't bother you.
or a salary paid gigolo man
What unfair rules? please be specific.
people used to be able to own their own cabs and keep all their earnings for themselves. now they can't but are compelled to drive for companies helmed by ang mohs who suck blood out of them.
if you look at the choicest locations such as new AMK central, its indisputably NTUC's
Govt don't force out competition, if you study carefully, they usually create new businesses for new markets. Even if they do encroach on existing markets, the introduction of competition is what drives entrepreneurialship and competition.
the playing field is not level hence competition not real. what kind of enterpreneurship is this that "encroaches" by sheer brute force of rules and regulations tilting heavily towards its favour?
There are no monopoly laws out there. Entrepreneurs are free to take on anyone they like. A real entrepreneur will not complain abt lack of opportunities. Its not the govt's fault.
The Competition Law Commission of Singapore was created on 1 Jan 2005 and legislature would gradually be in place over the next few years so we shall see.
it's not that the entrepreneur does not complain, he has learnt that complaining is useless and its better to be contented with scraps ... -
This is better cos it hedge teh risks and a corporatised system ensures consistent safety and service standards for Singaporeans. I like it.
people used to be able to own their own cabs and keep all their earnings for themselves. now they can't but are compelled to drive for companies helmed by ang mohs who suck blood out of them.
NTUC does not belong to the govt. You don't even know what you are talking about.
if you look at the choicest locations such as new AMK central, its indisputably NTUC's
What? Where? When? How? Who?
the playing field is not level hence competition not real. what kind of enterpreneurship is this that "encroaches" by sheer brute force of rules and regulations tilting heavily towards its favour?
Please be specific.
Real entrepreneurs don't complain, they overcome.
The Competition Law Commission of Singapore was created on 1 Jan 2005 and legislature would gradually be in place over the next few years so we shall see.
it's not that the entrepreneur does not complain, he has learnt that complaining is useless and its better to be contented with scraps ... -
Then to whom NTUC belongs to ? Who is incharge of NTUC? Pls enlighten usOriginally posted by Salman:NTUC does not belong to the govt. You don't even know what you are talking about. -
My version is:Originally posted by Salman:Real entrepreneurs don't complain, they overcome.
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How can it not be the govt's fault? If the govt isn't not part of the entrepreneur's solution, it's part of the problem. Remember how the entrepreneurs of the hdb carpark wash, mobile food van, UOB (just a few) businesses were told off and dealt with.
Its not the govt's fault.
Just this week, here's what the Duck Tour entrepreneur said about the red tape (he had to go thru 8 govt agencies for approval) for his 61m mt faber christmas tree business:
http://www.todayonline.com/pdf_open.asp?id=1611VOL028
Just do it and don't complain and if you fail, it's not our fault - that's what you're saying. With so much red tape in the entrepreneur's way, taking uncalculated risks like that is a silly and costly thing to do.
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If your business is making money, you can be sure the government will be sending its big boys to study your idea and making it their business.Originally posted by macjoe:How can it not be the govt's fault? If the govt isn't not part of the entrepreneur's solution, it's part of the problem. Remember how the entrepreneurs of the hdb carpark wash, mobile food van, UOB (just a few) businesses were told off and dealt with.
Just this week, here's what the Duck Tour entrepreneur said about the red tape (he had to go thru 8 govt agencies for approval) for his 61m mt faber christmas tree business:
http://www.todayonline.com/pdf_open.asp?id=1611VOL028
Just do it and don't complain and if you fail, it's not our fault - that's what you're saying. With so much red tape in the entrepreneur's way, taking uncalculated risks like that is a silly and costly thing to do.
The smarter thing to do is to cautiously look out for and avoid mines in the way, not jump in and run along because someone (who has planted many mines) says you're free to run.
Where money is concerned, you can be sure the government will want a piece of the action.
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No punishment at all..... recently they said 2nd chance should be given for failuresOriginally posted by Salman:We all make mistakes. I think this is a case of honest mistake.
What punishment do you want her to bear?
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Originally posted by snow leopard:
The Competition Law Commission of Singapore was created on 1 Jan 2005 and legislature would gradually be in place over the next few years so we shall see.
this is gonna be fun....let enjoy the price hike.......
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She should resign...in Japan, some might say she should commit seppukuOriginally posted by Salman:We all make mistakes. I think this is a case of honest mistake.
What punishment do you want her to bear?