Did pianist Melvyn Tan get off too lightly?
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Highly suspicious!Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The law does provide for imprisonment but the judge only fined him. In fact, this S.O.B wrote in to the authorities to inform them his intention to return. Seems to me THEY DID A BACKROOM DEAL! The coward came back knowing that they will not imprison him....that's why he did not dare to return all these years.
But now he is elite...and elites are a law unto themselves...
The great Singapore justice system!
could the jury or judge be corrupted????
even at the high salaries???? -
Seems like some plea bargain was involved.
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No, I don't think it is anything to do with corruption. It was probably a backroom deal to bring back an elite to attract patrons to the Esplanade.Originally posted by BaByBoY:Highly suspicious!
could the jury or judge be corrupted????
even at the high salaries???? -
actually lets look it at another view
he did his part of serving of the country by gaining glory for singapore
but it IS unfair that he escapes NS as he is a singaporean after all...
why not reduce the NS time or reduce the pressure that he will get NS???
After all he has already serve the country in his own way
~+Cheers+~
StarPuppy -
you mean that the NS boys can decide for themselves the method they can serve the country? don't forget with his double citizenship, his glory could also be for his UK citizenship.Originally posted by StarPuppy:actually lets look it at another view
he did his part of serving of the country by gaining glory for singapore
but it IS unfair that he escapes NS as he is a singaporean after all...
why not reduce the NS time or reduce the pressure that he will get NS???
After all he has already serve the country in his own way
~+Cheers+~
StarPuppy
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if that is the case everybody may opt to leave this country before enlistment, see if they make it, then decides if he wants to come back.Originally posted by StarPuppy:actually lets look it at another view
he did his part of serving of the country by gaining glory for singapore
but it IS unfair that he escapes NS as he is a singaporean after all...
why not reduce the NS time or reduce the pressure that he will get NS???
After all he has already serve the country in his own way
~+Cheers+~
StarPuppy -
I tend to agree with the view that the authorities were specially lenient to him (did not give him maximum penalty for his defiance) based on his current "talent" status - that with his art talent and fame, he could contribute significantly to enhancing the arts hub in Singapore. If he knew they were going to punish him severely, he's prepared not to return and they knowingly know they would lose a valuable talent.
The point of this example is talent is more valuable and recognised than NS and the state is prepared to draw in talent at the expense of non-NS.
So I strongly don't object to parents sending their kids overseas to acquire highly-valued talent and be famous without going thru lowly-valued NS.
Parents, plan and do it for your child's sake. Let him be somebody, a highly-valued person. He can make it big anywhere. If you do it for NS sake which makes him a nobody, everyone (including the state) will just step all over him, a lowly-valued so-called talent. -
Serving his country my ass. He has been serving himself all this time. If everyone thought like him we'd have no army.Originally posted by StarPuppy:actually lets look it at another view
he did his part of serving of the country by gaining glory for singapore
After all he has already serve the country in his own way
~+Cheers+~
StarPuppy -
He can still serve NS by performing & giving the SAF music & drama much of his expertise. What is the excuse of being his age & he cant serve? He wont die playing the piano or talking abt how 2 improve music rite? Even those with medical probs can serve being a clerk. Wat makes him so special?
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He's over 45.End of story.Originally posted by MRMUSICPRODUCER:He can still serve NS by performing & giving the SAF music & drama much of his expertise. What is the excuse of being his age & he cant serve? He wont die playing the piano or talking abt how 2 improve music rite? Even those with medical probs can serve being a clerk. Wat makes him so special?
Let's all cut the crap and just face the facts that this is how Singapore works.We have always been at the expense of either talent or wealth, be it with empirical evidence or not.
Bluntly put, it pushes people to achieve a high status in life, on the other hand, it diminishes our humanity. -
Agreed. If we show pride in upholding Nguyen's sentence, I think we should not let M Tan off so lightly.Originally posted by dragg:it is important to stick to the law stipulated.
BTW, I understsnd from my cousin that when he went for overseas studies before his NS, his parents need to have a sum of $30,000 as securities. Just in case he do not come back, this sum will be forfeited. How come for the case of M Tan is only $5000. Special Offer??
All guys should turn up at his concert and throw eggs at him. -
a certain lawyer said that most who escaped NS are never jailed.
then why should people who AWOL be sent to DB?
something is seriously wrong. -
in a sense,Originally posted by StarPuppy:actually lets look it at another view
he did his part of serving of the country by gaining glory for singapore
but it IS unfair that he escapes NS as he is a singaporean after all...
why not reduce the NS time or reduce the pressure that he will get NS???
After all he has already serve the country in his own way
~+Cheers+~
StarPuppy
if u delay my NS
i would had been making money for the sg economy,
therefore i would had served my nation in one way also rite??
so does that warrant me not to serve my NS or shorten the time?
seriously don think that`s a strong arguement..
anyway hadnt been the policy to threat every one w fairness regardless of race sex and religion???
or perhaps it`s the loophole? they`re not gonna threat the elite and commoners the same? don rem and `regardless of how rich/poor ` in the pledge.
is singapore an elitism country?? -
i disagree.Originally posted by StarPuppy:actually lets look it at another view
he did his part of serving of the country by gaining glory for singapore
but it IS unfair that he escapes NS as he is a singaporean after all...
why not reduce the NS time or reduce the pressure that he will get NS???
After all he has already serve the country in his own way
~+Cheers+~
StarPuppy
he is a UK citizen. i seriously doubt he performs under the name of a singaporean. how did he glorify singapore?
it is only after he came back that everyone knew he is a singaporean. -
I'll just say that I don't like the pose he had for the newspaper first page pictures.
It's an obvious case of "under the table". Saying he helped to glorify Singapore and thus have served the nation is only to help "cover" the table. -
all the talk about how nerve-wracking it was.Originally posted by CoolMyth:I'll just say that I don't like the pose he had for the newspaper first page pictures.
It's an obvious case of "under the table". Saying he helped to glorify Singapore and thus have served the nation is only to help "cover" the table.
he lives and performs in the higher circles. i am sure he made arrangements with the people concerned before stepping into singapore. -
true, not to mention those jailed for not running..............Originally posted by dragg:a certain lawyer said that most who escaped NS are never jailed.
then why should people who AWOL be sent to DB?
something is seriously wrong. -
Melvyn Tan is 45 years old. His father is already 80.
I am pondering how will the public respond, should the state meted out a jail term instead.
*sign* -
What's the name of that US old guy who defaulted to North Korea, then later got brought to Japan?
See, he still ended up doing some time of clerical work.
I'm not saying Mr Tan shall go and cheong sua. I think if he's assigned to some clerical work or something I don't think anyone would complain. -
Charles Jenkins case is different. Comparing him with Mervyn Tan is a case of comparing apples with durians.
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I have already adviced my friend to set aside $5,000 for his son when he reaches NS age.
My brother is working out exactly how much to "donate" to the gov based on the fact that he had served his 2.5 years of army and some reservist. He said it will not be more than $1,000! To me that is a very good deal! no need to attend to the flashing sign on TV and no need to stay overnight in army camp!
Where can I get the payment form for him to fill in? Can it be done by GIRO? -
Originally posted by Cindyfeh:
A1. Provided your friend's son intends to abandon his own parents and to seek greener pasture elsewhere. But make sure that it is at least 20 years before attempting to make a visit back to see his parents if not the amount might not be sufficient.
Q1. I have already adviced my friend to set aside $5,000 for his son when he reaches NS age.
Q2. My brother is working out exactly how much to "donate" to the gov based on the fact that he had served his 2.5 years of army and some reservist. He said it will not be more than $1,000! To me that is a very good deal! no need to attend to the flashing sign on TV and no need to stay overnight in army camp!
Where can I get the payment form for him to fill in? Can it be done by GIRO?
A2. NATO
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papers reported that a 39 yr-old guy was fined and asked to serve 9 months. of course he is not a musician.
why the difference in sentence? -
Too much
My 2.5 years given to SG is worth only that monetary value? -
well,I ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE TRUTH IS ONLY KNOWN TO THE DIVINE ONE!so,why bother about "the truth" in mortal world.there will always be explaination or reasons given,but there is only one truth!