Australia considers taking S'pore to int'l court
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Beazley is definetely a crown, has been in politic for so many years but hardly anybody supported him.Originally posted by Gedanken:That's not surprising, Lordz - traditionally, the Treasurer is the guy slated to become front runner for succession of the Prime Ministership.
Beazley's a clown. Yesterday, while on a radio talk show, he couldn't remember who Michelle Leslie was, and then ended up calling Schapelle Corby Michelle Corby instead. The idiot's so interested in politicking he can even get his facts right anymore. Rudd and his mates must be wetting themselves at this opportunity to scream that the Howard goevrnment isn't doing enough. -
Haha, porn is everywhere in aussie, so there is no deal.Originally posted by ditzy:They will randomly pick a Singapore kid attending one of the uni's there and convict him of d/ling porn thru the school proxy server.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:True e, but it's characteristic of Australians that it's not all business, and they're willing to put business aside for issues that they feel personally about.
Some say it's dumb sentimentality, others say it's character. Six o' one, half a dozen o' the other.
I know what you mean Geddy but this is a all new and different discussion all together.
Seriously they are sending the msg to the world that ,"If you want a drug mule, use an Australian."
Of course I can't say much about their economy soon if they are caught up in this nonsense everyday. -
Activists in tightly controlled Singapore are planning a last-ditch vigil in support of Australian drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van, who is set to be hanged on December 2.
The protest - which would be the second this month - will likely be held this weekend, Sinapan Samydorai, spokesman for rights group Think Centre, said today.
Details have yet to be finalised, but the gathering will almost certainly be held indoors as open-air gatherings require a police permit.
"The form of expression in Singapore is limited because I don't think we can protest in public, you need a licence, and that would not be given," Sinapan said.
Nguyen, 25, was arrested at Changi Airport in December 2002 with almost 400 grams of heroin in his hand luggage and taped to his body.
After being convicted and losing his appeal, Singapore has rejected all appeals for clemency from his family, the Australian government and the Catholic Church.
Nguyen's mother Kim and his twin brother Khoa arrived in Singapore overnight for a final series of visits before the death-row inmate in hanged.
It was not clear exactly when they would see the condemned man.
The government "we are dealing with do not want him to have a second chance," Sinapan said. "The punishment is disproportionate."
Singapore law imposes the mandatory death sentence for drug trafficking, murder, kidnapping and a range of firearms offences.
In consistently rejecting appeals for clemency, the Singapore government has said that hanging traffickers helps to keep the country safe.
Amnesty International has said Singapore probably executes more people relative to its size that any other country worldwide.
Sinapan's Think Centre is one of very few civil society groups in Singapore.
It regularly calls for the government to allow greater freedom of expression and assembly. It also campaigns against the death penalty.
The death penalty, like torture and slavery in the past, should be rejected by all and has no place in a civilised society, the group has said.
Sinapan and other local activists held a first vigil for Nguyen November 7 at a downtown hotel.
The event was attended by about 100 people, a rare show of protest against government policy here.
The next planned gathering will be "in solidarity with him and his family", Sinapan said.
"It'll most probably be an indoor vigil or prayer. We are going to call something like that," he said.
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He served in Paul Keating's cabinet. One of the most senior Labor Party figures left these days.Originally posted by soloken:Beazley is definetely a crown, has been in politic for so many years but hardly anybody supported him. -
CHC can do better than that.
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Haha...funny "If you want a drug mule, use an Australian." Dont flame, I sympathise the man's family.Originally posted by elindra:
I know what you mean Geddy but this is a all new and different discussion all together.
Seriously they are sending the msg to the world that ,"
Of course I can't say much about their economy soon if they are caught up in this nonsense everyday. -
There is only one place it belongs. The Thrid Reich.Originally posted by soloken:The death penalty, like torture and slavery in the past, should be rejected by all and has no place in a civilised society, the group has said. -
Not flaming ya.Originally posted by soloken:Haha...funny "If you want a drug mule, use an Australian." Dont flame, I sympathise the man's family.
I sympathise with the man's family though I wouldn't say the same for the consequence he has to face for his actions.
Anyway, there is so much sympathy one can give, as long as it is not misplaced sympathy.
I am saying that because that is the message Australia is sending out to the world with how they are protecting their own people who smuggle drugs outside their own country. -
But the drugs carried by Ngyuen were meant for the Victorian market, not ours. Also, the metal detectors happened to malfunction when he passed through them. This fellow is plain unlucky.Originally posted by elindra:Not flaming ya.
I sympathise with the man's family though I wouldn't say the same for the consequence he has to face for his actions.
Anyway, there is so much sympathy one can give, as long as it is not misplaced sympathy.
I am saying that because that is the message Australia is sending out to the world with how they are protecting their own people who smuggle drugs outside their own country.
I am sure he has some information that could be useful to bring down the Victorian underworld. If he dies, he will carry all that info to the grave.
Fymk: Come to think of it, his photo does look like those portraits you find at funerals.
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Agree...I think they have done enough already, most importantly they must learn how to respect others.Originally posted by elindra:Not flaming ya.
I sympathise with the man's family though I wouldn't say the same for the consequence he has to face for his actions.
Anyway, there is so much sympathy one can give, as long as it is not misplaced sympathy.
I am saying that because that is the message Australia is sending out to the world with how they are protecting their own people who smuggle drugs outside their own country. -
So in Mr Fugue's words, its destined.Originally posted by iveco:But the drugs carried by Ngyuen were meant for the Victorian market, not ours. Also, the metal detectors happened to malfunction when he passed through them. This fellow is plain unlucky.
I am sure he has some information that could be useful to bring down the Victorian underworld. If he dies, he will carry all that info to the grave.
Fymk: Come to think of it, his photo does look like those portraits you find at funerals. 
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it's PAP , not singaporeans..
singaporeans are just the unfortunate and the victims too! -
Aren't you supposed to be on vacation?Originally posted by SMAPLionHeart:it's PAP , not singaporeans..
singaporeans are just the unfortunate and the victims too! -
Whether is it for Victorian mkt or anywhere in the world, it is still harmful to mankind, and this shld not be allowed.Originally posted by iveco:But the drugs carried by Ngyuen were meant for the Victorian market, not ours. Also, the metal detectors happened to malfunction when he passed through them. This fellow is plain unlucky.
I am sure he has some information that could be useful to bring down the Victorian underworld. If he dies, he will carry all that info to the grave.
Fymk: Come to think of it, his photo does look like those portraits you find at funerals.
If the Aussie has the hard to crack drugs, I am sure they have a way they can do it, why they are not doing it can be a lot of reasons...to keep the balance of supply and demand and to prevent social unrest. -
But quite an idiot as well when I saw him debating in the cabinet.Originally posted by iveco:He served in Paul Keating's cabinet. One of the most senior Labor Party figures left these days. -
shut the fuck upOriginally posted by iveco:Aren't you supposed to be on vacation?
im here to smap the butts of paedophiles -
Convincing the P*P government(local branch) to give up nguyen is tantamount to asking the CCP government(main branch) in China to give up communism.
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singaporeans have no mercy for lifes...
just look at one old man walking in the mrt...or whatever..
also never even offer seat to old man..
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Singapore government is bad at PR..
very bad at PR...
even USA also hates it..
if malaysia one day walks down , i think we have to fight alone.
australia is our closest ally in this "region" and we're stepping on their toes..bad move...
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Very inflexible person..Originally posted by soloken:Why you want to vote out LHL, think for this case, he did his job well.
thats a minus points in politics -
Venice was a small island during the past centuries , very powerful and good country.
But in times of war , nobody gave a shit of what happened.
thats why venice fell
again , i would say singaporeans shouldn't take the punishment for what the government has done.
whatever the government has done , like provoking malaysians , provoking the americans , should be left to the government to settle.
since they have the gurkhas whom they trust more.
singaporeans should have the singaporean armed forces instead of the sg government armed forces -
In the West Australian today: Australia hopes to use the UN convention on organised crime to save Ngyuen Tuong Van as they feel he is needed to testify at any future trial i nSydney.
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Hmm... they're really leaving no stone unturned in trying to get Nguyen off the noose.Originally posted by iveco:In the West Australian today: Australia hopes to use the UN convention on organised crime to save Ngyuen Tuong Van as they feel he is needed to testify at any future trial i nSydney.
Cajoling us to spare him, criticising our laws, holding rallies, offering prisoner exchanges, threats of boycotts and economic sanctions, threatening to go to the ICJ, and now this.... they're really throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us.
Don't be surprised if to see a few kitchen sinks being thrown in our way next.
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We only signed but not ratified this convention. It is time to ratify it if we are committed to wiping out organised crime. It can also be used to tackle money launderers given our position as a financial hub.Originally posted by fudgester:Hmm... they're really leaving no stone unturned in trying to get Nguyen off the noose.
Cajoling us to spare him, criticising our laws, holding rallies, offering prisoner exchanges, threats of boycotts and economic sanctions, threatening to go to the ICJ, and now this.... they're really throwing everything but the kitchen sink at us.
Don't be surprised if to see a few kitchen sinks being thrown in our way next.