Mervyn Tan's show trial was a sham
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If it translates into a huge loss of votes, the irony will not be lost on those who have migrated to get away from this place and skipped NSOriginally posted by RaTtY81:jus a side note, will tis mervyn case cost more uproar than AntKF case?
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haiz when the war come, will we still have the heart to defend tis land with tis melvyn case...
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I think we still will, we all made our choices, and you're not fighting to save some people in white , but your own family, friends and your possessions.Originally posted by RaTtY81:haiz when the war come, will we still have the heart to defend tis land with tis melvyn case... -
When war comes, it's about survival and loved ones.
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why not...Originally posted by RaTtY81:haiz when the war come, will we still have the heart to defend tis land with tis melvyn case...
you're fighting for your live and the lives of your loved ones... -
Stop talking to your clone.Originally posted by LazerLordz: We'll never really know.
It's doesn't look nice if people find out. -
Wow, a common, shared clone.Originally posted by charlize:Stop talking to your clone.
It's doesn't look nice if people find out.
How about that.. -
Colonel Benedict's benediction was pronounced upon Quitter Melvyn; he was painfully requested to furnish an “ang pow” of $5000 to alleviate public sentiments. Jail or fine? Which is fine? What kind of “firm action” should MINDEF take against “those who do not fulfil their duty”? Although Melvyn chose not to procreate in Singapore, “firm action” can still be taken.Originally posted by dragg:extracted from ST forum.
NS: Mindef studying adequacy of penalties
I REFER to Mr Henry Ong Ling Tiong's letter, 'Firm stand needed: Fine or jail' (ST, Nov 26), where he suggested that punishments for national-service defaulters in the Enlistment Act be reviewed. Members of Parliament have also filed a number of questions.
It is heartening to note the very strong support for national service shown by the public in its reaction to the case of pianist Melvyn Tan.
Mindef has been reviewing the Enlistment Act to bring it up to date. This review includes a careful study of the adequacy of the current penalties to allow for firm action to be taken against those who do not fulfil their duty.
Mindef will give a full response on the matter when the review is completed.
Col Benedict Lim
Director, Public Affairs
Ministry of Defence
Well, “it is heartening” to know that MINDEF will review those “firm actions” amidst public “firm” reactions. These perennial “reviews” are probably a product of Singapore’s understanding of human nature: the pointing finger of the public will go limp in a few months, when the focus is turned to other arousing activities. That will be the time when “Mindef will give a full response on the matter”, but of course, “when the review is completed” and when Quitter Melvyn has staged enough concerts to acquire a $5000 rebate. The Enlistment Act will, in the mean time, allow fortunate sods to pay their way out of NS liabilities (in which case we have to address their genealogies). At the same time, this “Act” will put a few lower class citizens behind bars as a warning to those who are planning NS evasion.
If you must procreate in Singapore, and the fetus happens to have an Y chromosome, parturition must be performed in other countries. This is to allow the “Enlistment Act” to institute “firm actions”. In the meantime, as law-abiding citizens of Singapore, let us stand up for Singapore. -
Let us all abort male fetuses and use their cells for research.
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STimes 01.12.2005 reported his bond of $30,000 was forfeited 30 years ago.
Is it a 3 rm flat costed 10,000 to 15,000 30 years ago?
If so,his parents lost 300,000 in today value.
What u can bought 30 yrs ago for $30,000?
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Extracted from Sammyboy. Funny!!!!Originally posted by dragg:extracted from ST forum.
NS: Mindef studying adequacy of penalties
I REFER to Mr Henry Ong Ling Tiong's letter, 'Firm stand needed: Fine or jail' (ST, Nov 26), where he suggested that punishments for national-service defaulters in the Enlistment Act be reviewed. Members of Parliament have also filed a number of questions.
It is heartening to note the very strong support for national service shown by the public in its reaction to the case of pianist Melvyn Tan.
Mindef has been reviewing the Enlistment Act to bring it up to date. This review includes a careful study of the adequacy of the current penalties to allow for firm action to be taken against those who do not fulfil their duty.
Mindef will give a full response on the matter when the review is completed.
Col Benedict Lim
Director, Public Affairs
Ministry of Defence
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I think Mindeaf did did a short survey like this.
Col Tan to Captain Lee. Go do a short survey to check if we have strong unwavering support for our NS programme.
Capt Lee called the whole platoon of NS Clerks out.
Capt Lee: Do you support NS?
Clerks: Yes Sir.
Capt Lee: Say again?
Clerks: Yes Sir!
Capt Lee to Col Tan: Sire, we got 100% support. -
bwahahahahahahaOriginally posted by M©+square:Extracted from Sammyboy. Funny!!!!
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I think Mindeaf did did a short survey like this.
Col Tan to Captain Lee. Go do a short survey to check if we have strong unwavering support for our NS programme.
Capt Lee called the whole platoon of NS Clerks out.
Capt Lee: Do you support NS?
Clerks: Yes Sir.
Capt Lee: Say again?
Clerks: Yes Sir!
Capt Lee to Col Tan: Sire, we got 100% support. -
On a serious note, I wonder what all those army commanders and officers are telling those full time soldiers under them in camp now.
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A terrace house in Thomson, Sembawang or Serangoon Gardens.Originally posted by lionnoisy:STimes 01.12.2005 reported his bond of $30,000 was forfeited 30 years ago.
Is it a 3 rm flat costed 10,000 to 15,000 30 years ago?
If so,his parents lost 300,000 in today value.
What u can bought 30 yrs ago for $30,000?
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but some died...Originally posted by Salman:Most people don't bleed and some don't sweat doing NS.
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the f u c k is wrong with this paper-pusher? fu cking shame on wearing the uniform...i hope you dont lose sleep at night from writing this f u c k ing piece of c r a p...how do you even be able to look into the eye of another soldierOriginally posted by dragg:extracted from ST forums.
I REFER to Mr Liew Kai Khiun's letter, 'Are NSmen's sweat and tears worth only $5,000?', and Mr Samuel Oh Chee Ooi's letter, 'What is Mindef's stand on draft dodgers?' (ST, Nov 22).
All able-bodied male Singapore citizens are required to serve national service to contribute to the peace, security and stability of the country. Singaporeans enjoy the socio-economic benefits that this stability brings and are expected to shoulder the responsibility of national defence.
Mindef takes a serious stand on all defaulters who evade their national-service duty. Defaulters will have to bear the consequences of their action and will be dealt with by the courts under the Enlistment Act.
They are, on conviction, liable for an imprisonment term not exceeding three years or a fine not exceeding $5,000, or both. The exact sentence will be determined by the courts.
Besides having to answer to the courts for their national-service offences, defaulters will also have to serve their national service if they are still liable for national service.
In the case of Mr Melvyn Tan, although he had renounced his Singapore citizenship in 1978, he remained liable for the national-service offence and has been dealt with by the courts in accordance with the Enlistment Act.
Colonel Benedict Lim
Director, Public Affairs
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look. it's a fact that singapore wants talent. just look at the present suitation. the news reporter who was on channel u before the media merger, that zhang kai jie. She was offered to be a PR by the singapore government. And today, so many of the singapore sportsmen are kinda 'imported'. And the allowing of students to 'chop' their places in JCs and stuff. that's wanting the best of the best.
In this country, what i can say is that, everything has changed. There is no equal rights. not anymore. if you are just not up to standard, you will just lose out.
Just like this case of mr tan, he was acutally welcomed back to singapore. now that, shows the true side of singapore. it was stated in the press as 'welcome' . welcoming a law breaker is just absurd.
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the f u c k is wrong with my country?
whenever my peers and i talk about NS amongst foreigner friends, there is always this pride inside us
really undermined my belief that our men "did something for the country" when NS obligations can be mickey-moused in such a manner
i can stomach the NKF fiasco, but this holy grail of what differentiates our men is violated
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front page tday says those who escaped NS will be jailed.
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Say only lah.Originally posted by dragg:front page tday says those who escaped NS will be jailed.
They have to do a lot of damage control after this fiasco.
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extracted from ST forum.
National Arts Council, Esplanade shouldn't be too quick to lay red carpet for pianist Melvyn Tan
In the heat of charged emotions against pianinst Melvyn Tan's perceived light rap on the knuckles for evading National Service, the National Arts Council and the Esplanade should not be so quick to lay the red carpet out for him by showcasing him as a homecoming talent.
He is honoured by being on the judges' panel of the national piano and violin solo recital and master classes.
While the draft dodging controversy is still on, the NAC and Esplanade are doing a disservice to the pianist who I feel should keep a low profile until the storm is over before coming to Singapore to perform.
It is akin to stoking the fire with the warm welcome displayed by the NAC and Esplanade and literally giving disgruntled Singaporeans who served National Service a public platform to humiliate Mr Tan.
In fact I heard there are plans to heckle the pianist on his debut performance in the Esplanade. This would be a blow to the cause of classical music here.
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Ooohh...I hope the heckling takes place. Maybe an entire reservist unit should buy tickets and show up in their No.4. Nah....they'll probably be charged, fined and jailed for disturbing the peace.
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good idea.Originally posted by av98m:Ooohh...I hope the heckling takes place. Maybe an entire reservist unit should buy tickets and show up in their No.4. Nah....they'll probably be charged, fined and jailed for disturbing the peace.
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How much do you want to bet that the police will be called and anyone in uniform will not be allowed into the concert?Originally posted by dragg:good idea.
imagine the hall is full of people in no 4. he will be extremely embarassed.
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When I read his fine was only $3000 and he said he couldn't remember the figure, I was furious. He could remember he skipped NS 30 years ago but he can't remember his 6-months old fine amt. I pronounce him Keng King!
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