Foreigners dream of Sg's judicial system
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Originally posted by chenniooi:
As every sovereign state has a right to make it's own decisions, every other sovereign state has a right to voice their opinion, or in this case, total disagreement. AFAIK all discussion and expression has been cordial, so can hardly be called a colonial direction or instruction. I'd be disappointed if Australia hadn't tried to prevent the execution, and would be similarly disappointed if Singapore didn't apply similar diplomatic pressure to another country if one of its citizens was caught in dire straits overseas.
but perhaps in Australia's eyes, we are a backwater, colonial outpost, subject to colonial direction and instruction!
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How funny ... I thought I was the one striving hard to maintain the objectivity in this forum...Originally posted by Salman:I am also keeping a balance. I counter their propaganda and lies.
Notice they always fail to answer to my counters to their propaganda.
I don't wish for this to become like Sintercom or Sammyboymod.
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a spur of emotion ... everyone is prone to that.Originally posted by euphratis:I though few weeks ago in UK, there are a brutal attack on police that killed a woman officer. The commissioner who put death penalty away in the systems said he regretted & now wanted justice back by hanging the gunman? -
55% vs. 45% would be betterOriginally posted by Salman:76.1% verses 23.9% ought to be a great balance. Don't you think so? -
The UK claims to have the former. The result: teenagers killing elderly shopkeepers for a pizza, racists beating up and killing others just because of the colour of their skin, drug addicts mugging and stealing, you have to remove your car radio each time you park your car,the list goes on...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Do you guys believe in a rehabilitative leaning justice system or a punitive leaning system?And what sort of balance do we need to strike?
Singapore justice system is not perfect but I have never encountered the above problems in Singapore. In contrast, I have been robbed twice in London.
Definitively anti-crime and zero tolerance for criminals. I lean very much towards a more punitive system.. -
I'm with you on the punitive, as long as it doesn't end up in a irreversible sentencing consequence.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The UK claims to have the former. The result: teenagers killing elderly shopkeepers for a pizza, racists beating up and killing others just because of the colour of their skin, drug addicts mugging and stealing, you have to remove your car radio each time you park your car,the list goes on...
Singapore justice system is not perfect but I have never encountered the above problems in Singapore. In contrast, I have been robbed twice in London.
Definitively anti-crime and zero tolerance for criminals. I lean very much towards a more punitive system.. -
It's no wonder Singapore can't build a gracious society...Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The UK claims to have the former. The result: teenagers killing elderly shopkeepers for a pizza, racists beating up and killing others just because of the colour of their skin, drug addicts mugging and stealing, you have to remove your car radio each time you park your car,the list goes on...
Singapore justice system is not perfect but I have never encountered the above problems in Singapore. In contrast, I have been robbed twice in London.
Definitively anti-crime and zero tolerance for criminals. I lean very much towards a more punitive system..
But anyhow, are you sure that robberies do not occur locally?
Perhaps the apparent success of our punitive system lies not in that irs punitive but because the population it deals with is far smaller than that of UK, even of London I should think. -
why 55% v 45% better? Please explain.Originally posted by pikamaster:55% vs. 45% would be better -
You must be either playing dumb or plain ignorant my friend.Originally posted by pikamaster:It's no wonder Singapore can't build a gracious society...
But anyhow, are you sure that robberies do not occur locally?
Perhaps the apparent success of our punitive system lies not in that irs punitive but because the population it deals with is far smaller than that of UK, even of London I should think.
Have you ever been to London?
It is obviously the no nonsence justice system that made Singapore safe.
How can the londoners be more gracious than us but suffer a higher crime rate? -
I have never been robbed in Singapore for 40 years. I have lived in London for less than a month in aggregate and I was robbed twice there. Of course it could be that I have been most unlucky but I doubt my experience is an isolated one.Originally posted by pikamaster:It's no wonder Singapore can't build a gracious society...
But anyhow, are you sure that robberies do not occur locally?
Perhaps the apparent success of our punitive system lies not in that irs punitive but because the population it deals with is far smaller than that of UK, even of London I should think.
If there is no security in the streets and crime is rampant, what sort of gracious society are you talking about? -
Singapore is a FINE city, remember!
Its like a mum always using the cane to beat the naughty boy. Hoping that the punishment will change the boy.
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Cannot help it, but I find this picture very appropriate:
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I think its cheap of you to pull Hsien loong's son into lime light.
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Who is HL's son?? Not sure the The Age is trying to proof?Originally posted by Salman:I think its cheap of you to pull Hsien loong's son into lime light. -
Are you even sure you know what you are talking about?Originally posted by Salman:I think its cheap of you to pull Hsien loong's son into lime light.
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Indeed, to state the obvious that is Hsien Loong and father in the picture.
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my house my rules, our country our rules. Does this mean that if we commit crimes in Aussie, we get pardon if are media and government do the same? The aussie understood the risk and the consequences of his action, should accept the punishment. If he was wrongfully treated is another thing altogether.
And when we talk about percentages, it is not good a good guage in singapore. We have a small land mass and a small population. the numbers can be easily skewed. instead looking at trends and concrete numbers raising and falling is a better indicator of changes. -
Absolutely. We are a sovereign state and foreigners have no right to interfere with our internal policies. I have misgivings about the legal process in some capital punishment cases but in this case, the aussie deserves to hang. His guilt is never in doubt, not when he tries to get through customs with all that dope strapped to his body.Originally posted by cavinkoh:my house my rules, our country our rules. Does this mean that if we commit crimes in Aussie, we get pardon if are media and government do the same? The aussie understood the risk and the consequences of his action, should accept the punishment. If he was wrongfully treated is another thing altogether.