Can Thai build Kra Canal ?
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Where is Kra Canal
The Isthmus is named after the city Kra Buri, in the Ranong province of Thailand, which is located at the west side of the narrowest part.
Ranong is subdivided into 4 districts.No.4 is Kra Buri district. Where is Kra Buri City?? Deep brown is Myanmar.be patient for link.
2.Thailand problems
How can they allow a canal to divide the country into two in the middle?
How to solve the transport btw north and south parts?
hOW MANY swing bridges they need to build to across the canal?
Or they build many tunnels or over head bridges to across?....
3. Myanmar demand--legal or illegal
If the canal is completed,all ships may sail through Myanmar water.
Will she demand any fee?
4.US and PRC involement may complicate the projectIn 2005, however, an internal report prepared for U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was leaked to The Washington Times, spelling out China's strategy of underwriting construction of the $20 billion canal across the Kra Isthmus complete with Chinese port facilities and refineries, as part of its "string of pearls" strategy of forward bases and energy security.
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Given the Muslim speratism in southern Thailand, it is unlikely until the present Thai king dies because he is dead against it. So its a definite no for now.
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since colonial times till now...its been a No
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In the long of it, it will definitely be a yes cos it does make sense.
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Everything in this world is possible. China has already sent their astronauts into space. It is only a matter of time before Thailand build the Kra Canal. So do not rule out this possibility. Maybe we can see it, or maybe we won't have the chance to see it. 'Change' is the thing that is certain to be permanent.
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The canal is a worthy project.
The outstanding issues are:
Funding the proposed $25Bil project when Thailand is still in debt. Such projects can only be undertaken when the interest servicing can be handled while the 10 yr construction is ongoing with zero income. (There was some talk of using Nuclear Explosions to speed up the digging but...
Insurgency in the South. Would foreign investors put money into a region that is under civil unrest? Would shipping companies operate their ships in a narrow canal with potential granade attacks from the canal banks?
Should such a project take off, will existing shipping hubs like PTP and PSA standstill or dramatically improve efficiency and lower costs?
There are many articles on the net on this topic. But ultimately.. no $$. -
Not to worry too much. What will happen will happen. It is better to take some proactive actions by building up the economy and making our services and products competitive. Japan is so far away without locational advantages yet its services and products are in demand. Scandinavian countries too are very far away and they do not experience such fear. If we can work with Southern Malaysia states and Indonesia closely and make the regions competitive and vibranc, the ocean liners will have to call on our ports because of critical mass in southern part of archipalago.
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The local land owners of land to be acquisted will demand a lot of
money.They will disturb the project if their demand cant be made.
u know the corruptions there,
The suspended Hopewell Elevated rail system is a classic example -
i don't remember seeing it in the papers right?
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The local land owners will not be a problem for such a project.
The real problem is costs and the rebellion in the south.
The commercial vaibility is also a gamble given the scenario that Singapore & PTP may slash berthing charges by half once this thing comes on stream cos there will be nothing to lose for these ports. -
Once successfully built...
NO more ships will come pass Singapore...
We are DOOMED
So now we should think of something to survive....
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I wouldn't say doomed ... the volumne of traffic such a canal can handle would probably be fixed ... and the gulf of siam is a relatively shallow body of water, unlike the west coast ... very large super tankers and such may not be able to pass through them ..... (they don't pass through the straits of malacca currently anyways, but uses the sunda straits ...)Originally posted by maggot:Once successfully built...
NO more ships will come pass Singapore...
We are DOOMED
So now we should think of something to survive....
so Singapore's port will still be around no worries .... -
Those funding the construction of the canal will need returns so passage through will cost and it will be back to cost competition.Originally posted by Fatum:I wouldn't say doomed ... the volumne of traffic such a canal can handle would probably be fixed ... and the gulf of siam is a relatively shallow body of water, unlike the west coast ... very large super tankers and such may not be able to pass through them ..... (they don't pass through the straits of malacca currently anyways, but uses the sunda straits ...)
so Singapore's port will still be around no worries ....
The project takes huge amt of money and take yrs to construct, don't think any thai government wants to spend the money now for the benefits of the future government. There is no political benefits in to for the thai, economic benefits have to be calculated. Not an easy conclusion. -
it's hard to tell whether will we survive or maybe we will survive but our economy growth might decrease. Remember suez canal? before it was opened all ships from europe to Asia have to pass through the Cape of good hope, thus south Africa was somewhat properous then. However when the Suez canal opened up, all ships preferred to pass through the suez cause it is shorter and less dangerous than cape of good hope where lots of accidents happened.(in our case it may be the problem with pirates though)
For those who studied european history or social studies, remember venice? Venice's downfall came when a new trade route was found(though there were also other factors) they depended heavily on entrepot trade(like sg) in order to maximise the potential of their services and manufactured product.
Therefore, I think this kra canal issue shouldn't be taken too lightly. -
A risky undertaking, it will take years and years to build and at huge cost overruns, and they will have to deal with a lot of protest.
Protest from wildlife preservation groups, protest from greenpeace groups, protest against loss of habitat for certain animals or even some aquatic sea mammals, protest against loss of land rights of certain ethnic minorities, protest from ecological rights groups, complains against corrupt government officials trying to line their pockets.
Then there is the unrest in the south that might sabotage the project in a bid to preassure central thai government to allow self rule in the south. Or they may even see it as the government trying to "annex" their land thereby paving the way for ethnic migration(like indonesia) to other parts of thailand forcing them to disperse which will may make them even more determined to undermine the project.
Then there's malaysia who might not be very happy since more shipping now goes thru thailand kra canal and may even start levying "special taxes" for all cargoes that cross into overlapping malaysian waters is one possibility.
Another possibliity that during the early clearing and digging of the canal and construction on the west coast it may cause water levels in the tight straits to drop making it dangerous to heavy ships to pass thru causing security problems, huge delays for merchants shipping resulting in losses of billions.
in the end it will cost both legs and arms of many thai presidential administrations.