Support Opposition Parties
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The online forums and newspapers are ablaze with discussions about Mervyn Tan and the hanging of the Australian. What is the position of opposition parties on such issues that have gripped Singaporeans? What are they so silent?
Apart from Chee Soon Juan's antics in Australia (which does not do much credit to the Opposition, I must say), we haven't heard anything from any opposition party members.l
Many would love to support the Opposition at the coming Elections, but how can we do so if we don't know their stand on issues that we feel strongly about? -
one thing unique to our opposition parties is they are mostly not very vocal. those whom are, normally talked too much and end up bankkrupted.
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Of course if the opposition party does not have any credible members, then don't vote for them. However, as I've just mentioned, there are a few credible ones with good corporate experience and background. Just take a few minutes to go through the relevant parties' website to see for yourselves.Originally posted by nanren4ever:Do not have opposition party in the parliament/government just for the sake of having one. What's the point of having them in the government if they do not have the credientials and ability to improve/continue our lives? -
Yes! That's what I'm saying! If you look closely at the PAP's members at some wards, they aren't that good. If they are about the same, then we should give the other party members the chance to work for us. After all, if they do get in, they will definitely work harder to prove themselves.Originally posted by AF2005:at least those staying in opposition wards should vote for their oppostion MPs if they find them okay if not better than ruling party. -
3 cheers for Shade343!!!Originally posted by shade343:Whats the point of destroying your vote? It acheives nothing. Let us give our opposition a 2nd chance. Yes, They have fumbled, but so has the ruling party. everyone makes mistakes. -
That's the spirit!!! Whether there is a change in our political environment, it actually depends on us!!! If we give up the chance, we only have ourselves to blame!!!Originally posted by goh meng seng:Dear ShutterBug,
Why would you belittle yourself?
The power lies with you whether opposition members go into parliament or not, NOT PAP! You are the real boss, so to speak.
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Frankly speaking, I will. Although CSJ has been badly publized by our papers, at least he has the guts to speak up. Some prople think he is a fool to go against the ruling party, but think. He is a doctor right? If he doesn't go into politics, he might be earning good money and need not be blacklisted by the ruling party. Things might be much rosier for him.Originally posted by hyuuga neji:if someone by the initials CSJ stands in your ward...
will you give him a second chance???
But he still chose to speak up for his rights as well as for some of the general public. Some of the questions posed by him were very apt and did make us think what the govt. did might not be in the best interest of S'pore. -
Dear Oxford Mushroom,
I have written an article on this issue
singaoprealternatives.blogspot.com
http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.com/2005/11/value-of-citizenship-5000.html
Goh Meng SengOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:The online forums and newspapers are ablaze with discussions about Mervyn Tan and the hanging of the Australian. What is the position of opposition parties on such issues that have gripped Singaporeans? What are they so silent?
Apart from Chee Soon Juan's antics in Australia (which does not do much credit to the Opposition, I must say), we haven't heard anything from any opposition party members.l
Many would love to support the Opposition at the coming Elections, but how can we do so if we don't know their stand on issues that we feel strongly about? -
Originally posted by durai:
CSJ is crap and he always try to discredit Singapore. He also lack creditability, Mr Cham S.T is a much better candidate and I respect him. we need opposition but have to choose carefully.
[b]Frankly speaking, I will. Although CSJ has been badly publized by our papers, at least he has the guts to speak up. Some prople think he is a fool to go against the ruling party, but think. He is a doctor right? If he doesn't go into politics, he might be earning good money and need not be blacklisted by the ruling party. Things might be much rosier for him.
But he still chose to speak up for his rights as well as for some of the general public. Some of the questions posed by him were very apt and did make us think what the govt. did might not be in the best interest of S'pore. [/b] -
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I am not CSJ's admirer or sympathiser. Speaking as a fellow citizen, I feel that many are not fair to CSJ probably forming opinion about him based on newspaper reporting of propaganda against him.Originally posted by seneca04:CSJ is crap and he always try to discredit Singapore. He also lack creditability, Mr Cham S.T is a much better candidate and I respect him. we need opposition but have to choose carefully.
CSJ has not been elected into parliament and is not the government so he cannot be held responsible for the problems about credibility like collapse of the highways or high costs of living and the 20 major policy errors as posted here.
If we want to talk about creditability we should examine the creditability of our MPs and Ministers serving us who have the duty to perform various tasks with honour and diligence for the people.
The party which is elected and forming the government is the party to prove they have the credibility not the oppositions or any other citizens e.g. why the disparity in punishing the drug runners and not the drug lords and why death penalty for drug trafficking against the norm elsewhere. He has raised many issues for the greater good of the country like the high costs of living or doing business for the benefit of fellow citizens. -
good luck !
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the govt is upgrading flats with lifts stopping at every floor. but.. excluding non-pap areas. so is it a threat? and does it tell us that the current non-pap members in parliament = no power?
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The PAP MPs might get into parliament because they know how to use public monies to buy votes by spending the public monies to give the residents of their ward lift and other upgrading. But this will not last as the constituents will know that any such actions are vote buying suggesting malpractices of some kind or unjust way of getting into parliament.Originally posted by anhydrouscoppersulphate:the govt is upgrading flats with lifts stopping at every floor. but.. excluding non-pap areas. so is it a threat? and does it tell us that the current non-pap members in parliament = no power
They will not acknowledge them as good MPs or owe them the allegiance and they will also make use them for one term to get what they want. They know that any MPs without integrity will not be good MPs. So Come another term, they will know what to do. -
I will.....cos he dares to ask questionsOriginally posted by hyuuga neji:if someone by the initials CSJ stands in your ward...
will you give him a second chance??? -
Originally posted by SnowFlag:I will.....cos he dares to ask questions x 3
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3 cheersOriginally posted by SnowFlag:I will.....cos he dares to ask questions -
My sentiments exactly.Originally posted by robertteh:I am not CSJ's admirer or sympathiser. Speaking as a fellow citizen, I feel that many are not fair to CSJ probably forming opinion about him based on newspaper reporting of propaganda against him.
CSJ has not been elected into parliament and is not the government so he cannot be held responsible for the problems about credibility like collapse of the highways or high costs of living and the 20 major policy errors as posted here.
If we want to talk about creditability we should examine the creditability of our MPs and Ministers serving us who have the duty to perform various tasks with honour and diligence for the people.
The party which is elected and forming the government is the party to prove they have the credibility not the oppositions or any other citizens e.g. why the disparity in punishing the drug runners and not the drug lords and why death penalty for drug trafficking against the norm elsewhere. He has raised many issues for the greater good of the country like the high costs of living or doing business for the benefit of fellow citizens. -
I think Robert actually worships Chee although he will not admit it.
CSJ is crap for all the crap he speaks, period. -
1st, not all he says are crap.Originally posted by Salman:I think Robert actually worships Chee although he will not admit it.
CSJ is crap for all the crap he speaks, period.
2nd, even if a good papist is voted in, the papist cannot question things due to the party-whip.
3rd, if what CSJ says is rubbish, let the PAPist make a fool out of him lor. But at least someone dares to ask questions -
Do the oppostion have real proposal to challenge the ruling party, do they have the talent? CSJ is just making noise and making a fool of himself.
They really need to have something solid to show the public and convince people that they can run the state. -
Originally posted by SnowFlag:
Most of it is. The danger is, you have stupid people like Robert who actually believe it. It sound ridiculous but that reality. The tactaic of all these ooportunists is to throw a lot of mud and hope something sticks. The populance can easily be deceived in a deluge of lies. Do you know this is playing out in US, mid east and Europe to great effect.
1st, not all he says are crap.
I can understand. But two wrongs just don't make a right.
2nd, even if a good papist is voted in, the papist cannot question things due to the party-whip..
I'lkl rather have a decent guy do it. CSJ has too much crap thrown in.
3rd, if what CSJ says is rubbish, let the PAPist make a fool out of him lor. But at least someone dares to ask questions -
Dear Airforceone,
It is interesting that you are selling the idea "Opposition" = "CSJ"!
I only know local media used to do that but I think they know better now. It is indeed refreshing to see people continue to use this; could you please enlighten us whether you are from YPAP or PAP?
Goh Meng SengOriginally posted by Airforceone:Do the oppostion have real proposal to challenge the ruling party, do they have the talent? CSJ is just making noise and making a fool of himself.
They really need to have something solid to show the public and convince people that they can run the state. -
So, what makes you think that he is from PAP? Maybe he's just an independent citizen seeing things in his own way, just like you all.Originally posted by goh meng seng:Dear Airforceone,
It is interesting that you are selling the idea "Opposition" = "CSJ"!
I only know local media used to do that but I think they know better now. It is indeed refreshing to see people continue to use this; could you please enlighten us whether you are from YPAP or PAP?
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He asks questions.Better than nothing, although some of them are a travesty.Originally posted by Salman:I think Robert actually worships Chee although he will not admit it.
CSJ is crap for all the crap he speaks, period.