Press dare not report truths from forum
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The forum pages of Straits Times carry only letters of readers which are edited or heavily edited. Many factually objective letters have been turned away.
The only source of truths are now found in public forums like www.sgforums.com or www.findsingapore.net/forum but these are avoided like plague because the press does not have the authority's permission to go ahead and publish the active citizens' views.
What do you think. Will the press publish the forumers' views ? I think they need the government permission to do so. -
For example, is the press authorised to publish forumers' views on the nicol highway's scapegoats.
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cover up...u dunno how big and thick the carpet is one...
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generally all press will first have to verify or first level investigation into contents and writer for genuine, real meaning and truefulness of posts. That includes previous history of posts by the writer.
They will publish it if it mean something for the public to know. -
dat doesn't seem to apply to local press, especially the last sentence....we aren't stupid to believe dat.Originally posted by AF2005:generally all press will first have to verify or first level investigation into contents and writer for genuine, real meaning and truefulness of posts. That includes previous history of posts by the writer.
They will publish it if it mean something for the public to know. -
When a system is authoritarianism, minds are made up first and reasons given all the time to justify policies or actions e.g. in disallowing press freedom as a policy, editors will say that he has a certain guideline that he will verify and check source facts etc but all these are secondary while the primary problem he will ignore : existing forum letters are edited or heavily edited to lend support to authoritarian system of running the country.Originally posted by AF2005:generally all press will first have to verify or first level investigation into contents and writer for genuine, real meaning and truefulness of posts. That includes previous history of posts by the writer.
They will publish it if it mean something for the public to know. -
yeah, but many of them still live in their 'bubble' world...agree ? sad but trueOriginally posted by robertteh:When a system is authoritarianism, minds are made up first and reasons given all the time to justify policies or actions e.g. in disallowing press freedom as a policy, editors will say that he has a certain guideline that he will verify and check source facts etc but all these are secondary while the primary problem he will ignore : existing forum letters are edited or heavily edited to lend support to authoritarian system of running the country. -
I get more info on the Nguyen case from newspapers outside Singapore.Doesn't that explain a whole lot?
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Its the system here. thats why they try to plug internet loophole with so many changes in the law. Post as much as you can now, before they take drastic measures on clamping down political internet posts when the election annouce.Originally posted by robertteh:When a system is authoritarianism, minds are made up first and reasons given all the time to justify policies or actions e.g. in disallowing press freedom as a policy, editors will say that he has a certain guideline that he will verify and check source facts etc but all these are secondary while the primary problem he will ignore : existing forum letters are edited or heavily edited to lend support to authoritarian system of running the country. -
What's our press freedom ranking again? 140?
I know that both the press and our leaders are trying to play down its significance, but to me it does tell a lot about the state of our press.
I certainly do not want to read about alien abductions or human cyborgs, but I do want to read about the thoughts and opinions of others. -
This nguyen case, all same info and asking the same thing. Read one the rest the same. Its like all gang up and put pressure on singapore to exempt him from death because he australian. If he exempted, singapore will be a paradise for australian drug couriers.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I get more info on the Nguyen case from newspapers outside Singapore.Doesn't that explain a whole lot?
i agree, we need more news freedom. we can decide on our own what is right and wrong. -
But the fundamentals of balanced coverage is not here, whatever grand speeches our leaders can make.It all sounds like cookie-cutter press releases time and time again.Our eyes see much clearer.Originally posted by AF2005:This nguyen case, all same info and asking the same thing. Read one the rest the same. Its like all gang up and put pressure on singapore to exempt him from death because he australian. If he exempted, singapore will be a paradise for australian drug couriers.
i agree, we need more news freedom. we can decide on our own what is right and wrong. -
Agree.Originally posted by AF2005:generally all press will first have to verify or first level investigation into contents and writer for genuine, real meaning and truefulness of posts. That includes previous history of posts by the writer.
They will publish it if it mean something for the public to know.
I find that this is a more rational approach to do stuffs verified, checked then published. This is especially when the mass media carry weights to sway public opinions.
Both sgForum and findsingapore.net/forum tho' carry 'Singapore' name in it, it is no doubt a private forum set up by private company. Anyone can use the services without divulging one's full particulars. Hence,Originally posted by robertteh:The forum pages of Straits Times carry only letters of readers which are edited or heavily edited. Many factually objective letters have been turned away.
The only source of truths are now found in public forums like www.sgforums.com or www.findsingapore.net/forum but these are avoided like plague because the press does not have the authority's permission to go ahead and publish the active citizens' views.
What do you think. Will the press publish the forumers' views ? I think they need the government permission to do so.
1. Can the truth be found here?
2. Can the source be verified?
Truth? Ha ha ha...
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On the general, Coverage is not balanced here especially if it concern politics or thoughts. Its definitely one sided at the discretion of media whatever the reasons. Its like, afraid that the population might know too much and starts to wonder why, so policies that are not really working on ground level is being interpreted as successful to the mass.Originally posted by LazerLordz:But the fundamentals of balanced coverage is not here, whatever grand speeches our leaders can make.It all sounds like cookie-cutter press releases time and time again.Our eyes see much clearer.
One thing i noticed is whenever a mistake is made, its quickly doused off and move on very quickly hoping that it will be forgotten. -
oh, here is the place where we can publish sometime or anything regardless of good or bad or frustration and hope some will agree and if not thrash it here just to pass the time. What do people expect out of online internet forums? Its just discussion in coffeeshop online style and moving from topic to topic.Originally posted by TooFree:Both sgForum and findsingapore.net/forum tho' carry 'Singapore' name in it, it is no doubt a private forum set up by private company. Anyone can use the services without divulging one's full particulars. Hence,
1. Can the truth be found here?
2. Can the source be verified?
Truth? Ha ha ha... -
truth?
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truth?
i dunno.. i don't even trust news anymore... they are so easily hoodwinked into reporting crap or stuff people want them to see... which may be far from the truth...
check this out => Pallywood
see how reputable news people can be tricked into reporting terrible lies.. -
cute xmas bear...
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As far as ST is concerned, this forum is No Man's Land to them!
Every little word they print, has to be APPROVED. -
ai ya... the editor got a job to keep mah... if it never happen in the past with this gamen either will it happen in future with the same gamen....
anyway we still got the internet forum to talk talk for now.... if you really want freedom to curse, swear or sue anybody, the go stay US... $5000 fine only mah.. then learn the joo chiat rich man say "it's nothing"...with the press -
We have this forum to air our views, why do we need ST forum?
Let them publish what they want, we continue of posts here. -
which is also the reason behind the sales of an alternative newspaper that promises the truth by members of alternate political parties other than PAP. have see them around havent you?
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why do you need the truth for anyway
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Truth is very much relative. It can be said that what we are getting from our local papers, are in sync with what the government. It can be said that having our press stifled as it is, has help singapore to develop as fast and smoothly as it is. But well, the younger generation having been nurtured with the american ideals prevalent in our lives, have grown attached to the idea of freedom of speech and stuff and are finding our own voices and want to resist this control by the government. I believe that us Singaporeans are maturing and its about time that freedom of press is given at the minimum.
However, just as PAP being the dominant force in the political front, the question does come up?Why get alternatives to a well oiled machine? I see the answer merely as our desire to have control over ourselves, and not have a bunch of guys elected into the parlimeant denying us this right of choice. We are humans , and do not want to live our lives under stifling control, no matter how great it is. The Changi prison is very symbolic of singapore to me, free all basic neccessities are met, but why aren't the prisoners all to glad?Freedom, that is what we want..and its about time, we get what we rightly want. -
controlled truth and freedom of course.
so if a genie grants your wish to the absolute truth to everything else on earth, what would you do? bet ye would still sit around typing furiously.