History of Singapore
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Hey, anyone here watched the prog? What are you comments? Was it biased? or balanced?
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I am more interested in the history of my bank transactions.
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I think it was an excellant show. It really showed singapore as singapore. I really feel proud to be a Singaporean. Very motivating to know that we all are part of this Asian Miracle. Really makes work and studies more meaningful to know what we are striving for.
hope i don't sound too NDPish..hahha -
do you learn chinese history?like qin ,han ,tang ,song ,ming ,qing dynasty history?
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I felt like I was watching an SIA propoganda video. Must humour the sponsers I suppose.
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Yes we do.Originally posted by aniyaseo:do you learn chinese history?like qin ,han ,tang ,song ,ming ,qing dynasty history?
And your purpose for asking is?
We learn world history too, even pre and post Westphalian Europe. -
just becos if you do not know chinese history ,how you see chinese ancient costume drama ?no felling ,i think .
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At first i thought it was some PAPpy propaganda tool however upon watching it, i was quite impressed. It was unbiased and also featured some opposition figures such as JBJ.
Whats strikes me most was Part 3 when they showed the lone voice talking to an empty field in the Speakers Corner. -
that is history, the important thing is the future.Originally posted by Jayshen:I think it was an excellant show. It really showed singapore as singapore. I really feel proud to be a Singaporean. Very motivating to know that we all are part of this Asian Miracle. Really makes work and studies more meaningful to know what we are striving for.
hope i don't sound too NDPish..hahha
from the program the govt dont sound too confident. -
IMHO...Overall.. not a bad program.
However, they did not put in the racial riots during the sixties and the fact there are still opposition party in the current parliment. I am also not sure whether it is correct that we are protray as a socialist society... -
i saw part 1.
when are they re-running part 2?
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huh?Originally posted by dragg:i saw part 1.
when are they re-running part 2?
any idea?
they showed all 3 episodes in 1 night. Check out the details here:-
http://www.discovery-historyofsingapore.com/index_flash.html
The show is real great, although it was dissapointing that they didn't show the race riots in 1960s - they skimmed past that. But then I was always of the opinion that Singapore govt placed a little too much emphasis on that.
What was good however was that they interviewed Fong Swee Suan and showed the videos of Lim Chin Siong's public speeches, as well as making mention of Operation Coldstore. All these will not be present in a local video on teh History of Singapore; FOng Swee Suan will definitely not be a source a local documentary-maker would put in his documentary, for fear of having his film labelled as a "political film".
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see again!!
only on dec 4 they showed it all at once.
the 3 parts are then screened separately on different dates. -
The comments made by GCT on JBJ in the show were chilling: the PAP carried out defamation suits agaisnt him just because he was an advocate of welfare. It just shows how complacent our govt has become.Originally posted by dragg:that is history, the important thing is the future.
from the program the govt dont sound too confident.
Ex-DPM Tony Tan's comments were insightful though: We must not just extrapolate from our present. Unfortunately, I wish that he has realized that that is exactly what we are doing, expecially for education. -
Just saw it. Great show! Raffles was a great man!
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The program did mention the racial riots.Originally posted by diggo:IMHO...Overall.. not a bad program.
However, they did not put in the racial riots during the sixties and the fact there are still opposition party in the current parliment. I am also not sure whether it is correct that we are protray as a socialist society...
So you think Singapore should rightfully be classified as a democratic society? Check out Wekipedia to understand what socialism is. -
I dislike the comment make by George Yeo. In the program, he said that if issue like ban on chewing gums is put onto a referendum, most Singaporean will support it. What make them think they know Singaporean well enough to make that kind of assumption?Originally posted by pikamaster:The comments made by GCT on JBJ in the show were chilling: the PAP carried out defamation suits agaisnt him just because he was an advocate of welfare. It just shows how complacent our govt has become.
Ex-DPM Tony Tan's comments were insightful though: We must not just extrapolate from our present. Unfortunately, I wish that he has realized that that is exactly what we are doing, expecially for education.
Same goes for the capital punishment issue whereby our PM said that most Singaporean would support it. -
Hey we're not that ignorant yeah.Originally posted by aniyaseo:just becos if you do not know chinese history ,how you see chinese ancient costume drama ?no felling ,i think . -
Precisely.They assume too much.Originally posted by jxjoox:I dislike the comment make by George Yeo. In the program, he said that if issue like ban on chewing gums is put onto a referendum, most Singaporean will support it. What make them think they know Singaporean well enough to make that kind of assumption?
Same goes for the capital punishment issue whereby our PM said that most Singaporean would support it.
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The program ends by saying that Singapore is going to face the same challenges like in the past or rather, right in the beginning when Singapore was founded by Raffles. It didn't elaborate or I may have missed it. However, it also said that since Singapore had managed to solve those challenges in the past, we should be able handle those same challenges in the future.Originally posted by dragg:that is history, the important thing is the future.
from the program the govt dont sound too confident.
IMO, the past challenges was solved by the colonial rulers. They promoted free trade and build up the country from scratch. When the current govt took over from the colonial rulers, they create new set of problems which they have to solve.
What if LKY has not fight for independence? Would we face those problems that arises after independence? Would we need to merge with Malaysia if we have no desire to be independent? Which lead to the chain of events that cause the racial riots.
IMO, if we have continued to let the Bristish govern the country, we wouldn't be much different like Hong Kong now. Free trade will still be the order of the day as compared to now where 60% of the businesses are state controlled.
However, kudos should still be accorded to the current ruling party for providing housing and finding jobs for the people together with tight social control. -
true enough... deep within, the number of people who would actually support government proposals, such as banning chewing gums or capital punishment, would not be reflected as well as what the government might think... however, there lies the question... how many are actually willing or, more likely, unafraid to object?Originally posted by jxjoox:I dislike the comment make by George Yeo. In the program, he said that if issue like ban on chewing gums is put onto a referendum, most Singaporean will support it. What make them think they know Singaporean well enough to make that kind of assumption?
Same goes for the capital punishment issue whereby our PM said that most Singaporean would support it. -
they are saying this once too often and should stop it!!!Originally posted by jxjoox:I dislike the comment make by George Yeo. In the program, he said that if issue like ban on chewing gums is put onto a referendum, most Singaporean will support it. What make them think they know Singaporean well enough to make that kind of assumption?
Same goes for the capital punishment issue whereby our PM said that most Singaporean would support it. -
I caught just the trailer on the Discovery channel, I was enticed to watch it, but the timing didn't fit into my schedule.
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That shows how much more objective you need to be about Singaporean politics.Originally posted by Nelstar:I am more interested in the history of my bank transactions. 
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The riots mentioned is the bus-co riots.. the racial riots comes later. As for the classification...IMHO, the verdict is still out.Originally posted by jxjoox:The program did mention the racial riots.
So you think Singapore should rightfully be classified as a democratic society? Check out Wekipedia to understand what socialism is.
Agreed with the GCT comments on JBJ by Pikemaster (I feel a tinge of supression there). Toni Tan has also hit nail rite on the spot.