Ultimate test of leaders' talents or abilities
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The ultimate test of talent or management excellence is: how the top men implement efficiency and productivity at every level.
No matter what policy or idea, implementation has to be efficient or excellent. After many years, to me nothing has changed. Leaders continue to believe they are scholars without being too concerned with how their policies or ideas are implemented. They probably push from one idea to another, one committee or one blame to another.
Very few action men around nowadays to upgrade the economy or look after people's 20 major problems as posted in another thread. -
So far since Khaw Boon Wah, Tharman and LHL, there had been lots of much badly needed but ignored reforms.
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Your sentence implies sth gd or bad abt the three "leaders"?Originally posted by redstone:So far since Khaw Boon Wah, Tharman and LHL, there had been lots of much badly needed but ignored reforms.
Especially Tharman. -
Good.Originally posted by pikamaster:Your sentence implies sth gd or bad abt the three "leaders"?
Like the education and health systems. Many people complaining, but no change.
When Tharman and Khaw came up, lots of good and very badly needed reforms that should had taken place many years ago.
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Agree with redstone.
Dr Vivian also, with the easing of criteria to enter Sports School. -
What we are seeing are some changes in education, health and sports. A swallow does not make a summer. Many old policies have to be changed if the people commitments are to be restored and the moribund Singapore domestic sector is going to revive and become vibrant again.
The past policies e.g. pro-foreign jobs and investments approaches, competition by the government against people for business, pro-elite education and job policies, double-charges on lands and transportations, market-level or full-cost recovery system of taxing or charrging the populations on medical, health and education fees and charges (so as to avoid welfare) etc have to be drastically and fundamentally changed. -
Tharman shld've change CCA, making it not compulsory. A lot parents and students dun like it.
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I think Khaw has done quite a good job with health, but what good exactly has Tharman done for education? I'm a student, and I don't see many positive changes come from education. The only positive change I see is the removal of the PEARLS CCA point system which was unfair in its dealing of points among the various CCAs. But even that is a dounble-edged sword - w/o PEARLS, some CCAs start losing lots of members, or worse still, members' enthusiasm. Take it from me; I'm a student.Originally posted by redstone:Good.
Like the education and health systems. Many people complaining, but no change.
When Tharman and Khaw came up, lots of good and very badly needed reforms that should had taken place many years ago.
The real change in education I believe everyone is waiting for, or at least every student, is the removal of the School Ranking System and the Streaming System for good.
the (skeptical) pikamaster -
Vivian has just killed our society by suggesting the I(C)R proposal!!!Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Agree with redstone.
Dr Vivian also, with the easing of criteria to enter Sports School.
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Another is the very very very badly and desperately needed change to poly admissions systems.Originally posted by pikamaster:I think Khaw has done quite a good job with health, but what good exactly has Tharman done for education? I'm a student, and I don't see many positive changes come from education. The only positive change I see is the removal of the PEARLS CCA point system which was unfair in its dealing of points among the various CCAs. But even that is a dounble-edged sword - w/o PEARLS, some CCAs start losing lots of members, or worse still, members' enthusiasm. Take it from me; I'm a student.
The real change in education I believe everyone is waiting for, or at least every student, is the removal of the School Ranking System and the Streaming System for good.
the (skeptical) pikamaster -
very vague. please substantiate with examples. you are very good with stories without any providing any evidence or purposely giving wrong data. just like TT Durai.Originally posted by robertteh:The ultimate test of talent or management excellence is: how the top men implement efficiency and productivity at every level.
No matter what policy or idea, implementation has to be efficient or excellent. After many years, to me nothing has changed. Leaders continue to believe they are scholars without being too concerned with how their policies or ideas are implemented. They probably push from one idea to another, one committee or one blame to another.
Very few action men around nowadays to upgrade the economy or look after people's 20 major problems as posted in another thread. -
Just a few examples to show that promises made were not kept and words spoken not honored by the leaders:-Originally posted by qooorange:very vague. please substantiate with examples. you are very good with stories without any providing any evidence or purposely giving wrong data. just like TT Durai.
(1) Bureaucracy in civil service.
(2) High costs of essential government services e.g. medical, utilities, housing, transportation, education, etc, etc
(3) Growth Triangles
(4) Affective divide due to lack of understanding of people's views and aspirations.
(5) Work site safety problems (Hotel New World Collapse's blue paper was not effectively implemented)
(6) Deliver a Swiss standard of living
(7) Asset enhancement scheme fiasco
(8 ) Unit trust investment fiasco
(9) Foreign relation fiascos
(10) Non-formulation of a value-adding investment strategy
(11) Double-charging on lands (paid by taxpayers yet charged back to them at full market prices) and triple charges on vehicles.
(12) Meritocratic education policy that backfired - brain drains of thousands
(13) Mother tongue - CL1 admission fiasco
(14) Reaching World Cup soccer league by 2010 - no sign of getting near.
(15) Investment losses by thousands of citizens from CPF funds.
(16) Spiraling of government ministers' and civil servants' salaries.
(17) Failure to implement accountability and transparency in respect of investments of citizens' monies in overseas investments.
(18 ) Loss of economic competitiveness due to high costs.
(19) Neglect in promoting entrepreneurship
(20) Neglect in nurturing the domestic sector of economy.
So how can the leaders claim their leadership abilities if they do not keep promises. For more suggestions on implementational efficiency, read: www.managefranchise.blogspot.com
or suggestions to bring about more creative political participations by the masses, read:www.politicaldiscussions.blogspot.com -
Hi,Originally posted by robertteh:Just a few examples to show that promises made were not kept and words spoken not honored by the leaders:-
(1) Bureaucracy in civil service.
(2) High costs of essential government services e.g. medical, utilities, housing, transportation, education, etc, etc
(3) Growth Triangles
(4) Affective divide due to lack of understanding of people's views and aspirations.
(5) Work site safety problems (Hotel New World Collapse's blue paper was not effectively implemented)
(6) Deliver a Swiss standard of living
(7) Asset enhancement scheme fiasco
(8 ) Unit trust investment fiasco
(9) Foreign relation fiascos
(10) Non-formulation of a value-adding investment strategy
(11) Double-charging on lands (paid by taxpayers yet charged back to them at full market prices) and triple charges on vehicles.
(12) Meritocratic education policy that backfired - brain drains of thousands
(13) Mother tongue - CL1 admission fiasco
(14) Reaching World Cup soccer league by 2010 - no sign of getting near.
(15) Investment losses by thousands of citizens from CPF funds.
(16) Spiraling of government ministers' and civil servants' salaries.
(17) Failure to implement accountability and transparency in respect of investments of citizens' monies in overseas investments.
(18 ) Loss of economic competitiveness due to high costs.
(19) Neglect in promoting entrepreneurship
(20) Neglect in nurturing the domestic sector of economy.
So how can the leaders claim their leadership abilities if they do not keep promises. For more suggestions on implementational efficiency, read: www.managefranchise.blogspot.com
or suggestions to bring about more creative political participations by the masses, read:www.politicaldiscussions.blogspot.com
Also, not forgetting, failure to restore CPF despite earlier promises but instead, cutting of CPF further.
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The thing about ranking of schools although abolished, lingers on like a ghost..
Haha.
If ranking is abolished den the Muslim PSLE student shud be left in her neighbourhood school. why? Since there's no ranking den all schools are equally good.
Correct me if i'm wrong.. Thanks -
Care to elaborate? I don't quite get you.Originally posted by pikamaster:Vivian has just killed our society by suggesting the I(C)R proposal!!!
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Tharman might be one of the best ministers ever.Originally posted by Misogynist:The thing about ranking of schools although abolished, lingers on like a ghost..
Haha.
If ranking is abolished den the Muslim PSLE student shud be left in her neighbourhood school. why? Since there's no ranking den all schools are equally good.
Correct me if i'm wrong.. Thanks
As in terms of public support and satisfaction.
Apart from his decision to use internet to register JAE, all his decisions are very very good. -
The "social safeguards" the Ministry thinks of implementing will be eventually scrapped because of commercial considerations; the hefty admissions fee will drive away tourists; not to mention that a massive casino, no matter how "integrated", will scare away potential family tourists, those that bring in the msot money for any entertainment operator. Besides, legislation isn't enough; where there's a will, there's always a way to circumvent the law w/o gettign caught. Just imagine the lives which will be ruined.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Care to elaborate? I don't quite get you.
Don't bother asking for an elaboration of this: I won't give one. In this forum there has already been a wealth of threads on the issue; go and backreference to them.
the pikamaster -
Misogynist,Originally posted by Misogynist:The thing about ranking of schools although abolished, lingers on like a ghost..
Haha.
If ranking is abolished den the Muslim PSLE student shud be left in her neighbourhood school. why? Since there's no ranking den all schools are equally good.
Correct me if i'm wrong.. Thanks
school ranking has not been abolished; it has merely been "lessened" by the introduction of the banding system. In fact, more "ranking criteria" have recently been introduced: IP, IB, and so on.
the pikamaster -
That's been done, or not done???Originally posted by redstone:Another is the very very very badly and desperately needed change to poly admissions systems.
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Which public gives him support and satisfaction? Read around students' forums, and see how many students are blasting him / his MOE. (Please don't tell me the students don't constitue the public) As far as I see, he has not made any noteworthy decisions independently. The new Chiense syllabus was a suggestion of LKY's and LHL's, for instance. Likewise for IP, RP and IB.Originally posted by redstone:Tharman might be one of the best ministers ever.
As in terms of public support and satisfaction.
Apart from his decision to use internet to register JAE, all his decisions are very very good.
If you got your piece from our local media, then I urge you to distrust it more in the future.
the (worried) pikamaster -
You have mentioned students' perception of MOE. How about parents' and public perceptions. I suppose Tharman came in to slaughter the sacred cow of school ranking and Chinese language admission criteria which were major change. He might be the one who advised MM and PM of impending change and let them take the credit.Originally posted by pikamaster:Which public gives him support and satisfaction? Read around students' forums, and see how many students are blasting him / his MOE. (Please don't tell me the students don't constitue the public) As far as I see, he has not made any noteworthy decisions independently. The new Chiense syllabus was a suggestion of LKY's and LHL's, for instance. Likewise for IP, RP and IB.
If you got your piece from our local media, then I urge you to distrust it more in the future.
the (worried) pikamaster -
Previously not.Originally posted by pikamaster:That's been done, or not done????
Now yes.
Heard the news a few months ago?
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Students blast. He change.Originally posted by pikamaster:Which public gives him support and satisfaction? Read around students' forums, and see how many students are blasting him / his MOE. (Please don't tell me the students don't constitue the public) As far as I see, he has not made any noteworthy decisions independently. The new Chiense syllabus was a suggestion of LKY's and LHL's, for instance. Likewise for IP, RP and IB.
If you got your piece from our local media, then I urge you to distrust it more in the future.
the (worried) pikamaster
Education still needs a few more reforms. New policies. Or change old ones.
I'm sure ndmmxiaomayi and me are not the only ones who blast and complain about the goddamn rigid purely-by-results-and-nothing-else poly/jc entrance system. Now it had been changed.