Is it possible to justify for Durai and NKF Board?
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Some justifications are possible depending on whose higher interests might be affected.
What if some higher interests are affected and for the sake of stability, some ways might be found by prosecutors to justify for Durai and the board e.g.
(1) Honest mistakes
(2) Lack of proofs or evidences of bad motives,
(3) Board of directors takes the blames under committee system where nobody in a committee particularly will take the blame,
(4) Existing laws are not fool-proof and need to be tightened and move on.
(5) Negligence not amounting to culpable conduct or wilful intent
(6) Missing purchase orders on golden taps, e-services blamed on lack of record,
(7) Witnesses not available or failing to give evidences
(8 ) Contracts with directors or ex-directors deemed commercial in nature not amounting to conflicts or otherwise adopted by board subsequently,
(9) Creative accounting methodologies to explain that these are the market or some other known practices,
(10) Problems in tracing whereabout of parties or witnesses to back up any alleged wrongs.
(11) Regulatory authorities deemed to be lacking in some powers to ask for proper accounting and corporate governance reports.
(12) Purchases without obtaining market quotations deemed as urgent or speciallty not available in the market place.
(13) Bonuses of 12 months or triple increments equated to some practices or gereral averages paid to some civil servants of equivalent grades.
CAD and CPIB have regularly interpreted certain unsupported transport claims like Taxi-fare mileage being excessive and offenders prosecuted and convicted even though there are no hard evidences found to justify prosecutions.
Let us hope that there will be no compromise in this case, and CAD and CPIB will not fight shy to apply high integrity and standards in high-profile cases like NKF and not find justifications as above-stated to let the big fish off the hook.
If others are prosecuted for small petty stationery offences why let the big perpetrators of wrong doings explain away with clever rhetorics after the events. -
he can smark his buttock and get rdy to go jail le la..
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all his frens have abandoned him le. he is doomed.
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He's lucky that he's in Singapore, not China.
If he is in China, his deeds will definitely earn him a bullet into the base of his skull. Then i seriously don't think anyone will object to the death sentence being applied to him. -
Durai and NKF board...
I think starter means ex-NKF board... They all should be charged
But, the report is still not complete as not all board members turned up for the interview -
I bet with you for every cents i have, this case will either close very fast or drag very very long. There are just too many people involved inclusive of the officers in MOH. They close it must just to avoid having too many people being mentioned as the election is drawing close. They drag it long just to erase your memory. After all, we public is not in the position to question about their progress. Moreover, if too many public figures are involved, our normal practise here is to have quick solution.
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If elections is really coming, it wun just end here...Originally posted by yappiegummie:I bet with you for every cents i have, this case will either close very fast or drag very very long. There are just too many people involved inclusive of the officers in MOH. They close it must just to avoid having too many people being mentioned as the election is drawing close. They drag it long just to erase your memory. After all, we public is not in the position to question about their progress. Moreover, if too many public figures are involved, our normal practise here is to have quick solution. -
The election may be near. Why? Because they have now taken care of this case by publicizing it in such a way to give the impression that the laws will take its full course.
After saying the the laws will take its own course there will not much capital the oppositions can make of this case in the election.
This is because they could then tell the electorate that they are doing something about this case. But then being Singaporeans, they will be over-trusting and accept whatever they say and let them do as they like to forgive or give some smaller punishments to close it. This is corporate governance Singapore-style - when there is a mistake, they would try to close it or do some damage control. -
This matter to be frank, always ppl like to link untruthOriginally posted by robertteh:The election may be near. Why? Because they have now taken care of this case by publicizing it in such a way to give the impression that the laws will take its full course.
After saying the the laws will take its own course there will not much capital the oppositions can make of this case in the election.
This is because they could then tell the electorate that they are doing something about this case. But then being Singaporeans, they will be over-trusting and accept whatever they say and let them do as they like to forgive or give some smaller punishments to close it. This is corporate governance Singapore-style - when there is a mistake, they would try to close it or do some damage control.
For 1 thing, NKF is not equal to Govt or PAP... It is only ppl that only know layman term will link this...
Of course govt is in fact as there was no control onto the charity organisation -
The link to the Singapore government is very clear.Originally posted by sbst275:This matter to be frank, always ppl like to link untruth
For 1 thing, NKF is not equal to Govt or PAP... It is only ppl that only know layman term will link this...
Of course govt is in fact as there was no control onto the charity organisation
Singapore government is anti-welfare and anti-medical care for people, sick or aged.
NKF to the government is a set-up that will please the government in that it bridges the gap between anti-welfare and need for long-term solution to medicare of the people especially if it can be funded by the people by charity machinery.
NKF to the government is a political expedient - a middle path to answering to complaints about lack of medical care etc.
Government will be happy to promote NKF one capable of running on high reserve in a position to address the sick, the aged and under-class medical care for the longer term.
When NKF came under some past criticism about its high reserve, you will notice that government was doubly quick to jump to its defence about its reserve etc. So because of NKF serving as a political expedient, NKF was shielded all the time but it went out of control due to power being concentrated in its powerful CEO resulting in all the consequent problems.
Now for past sentiment, there is a need for government to salvage the situation - a dilemma of some kind. -
There will always conflicts on what we think and you thinkOriginally posted by robertteh:The link to the Singapore government is very clear.
Singapore government is anti-welfare and anti-medical care for people, sick or aged.
NKF to the government is a set-up that will please the government in that it bridges the gap between anti-welfare and need for long-term solution to medicare of the people especially if it can be funded by the people by charity machinery.
NKF to the government is a political expedient - a middle path to answering to complaints about lack of medical care etc.
Government will be happy to promote NKF one capable of running on high reserve in a position to address the sick, the aged and under-class medical care for the longer term.
When NKF came under some past criticism about its high reserve, you will notice that government was doubly quick to jump to its defence about its reserve etc. So because of NKF serving as a political expedient, NKF was shielded all the time but it went out of control due to power being concentrated in its powerful CEO resulting in all the consequent problems.
Now for past sentiment, there is a need for government to salvage the situation - a dilemma of some kind.
But whatever it is, this saga may mean more subsidy and more patients to be taken care of under new mgmt though the process is through a shocking finding...
But as for links with Govt, I believe is due to the ex-patron...
In fact I have been seeing unhappiness of PAP and Govt.. If ppl here can say Aussie Govt is democratic, I dun, because John Howard has tightened his grip in the cabinet... So, isn't it equally the same? -
I am not part of sbst's "we".Originally posted by sbst275:There will always conflicts on what we think and you think
I tend to agree with most of Robert's points. -
kill the rotten eggg!!!!
shame of the world.... biggest sluT ever.....
chop the @$$!!!!!
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wah..so fierce...Originally posted by BlUe G@rF|eLd:kill the rotten eggg!!!!
shame of the world.... biggest sluT ever.....
chop the @$$!!!!! 
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To be frank, sometimes your idea is kinda selfish and iswhat you thinkOriginally posted by Cindyfeh:I am not part of sbst's "we".
I tend to agree with most of Robert's points.
Like the poly education subsidy issue mths back, you said it is not subsidised enough... Care to tell me what is your enough? Also, what other students from overseas are paying what Singaporeans pay when they go overseas except for ASEAN students. So what are you saying of Singaporeans paying high teritary sch fee in SG? -
ONE PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO NKF PROBLEM:
(1) Modify government's anti-welfare and anti-medical care for the sick, aged and the underclass.
(2) Use a portion of tax traditional intended for medical care of the popultion to build up an Medical Endowment Fund. (MEF)
(3) Use say 20 % of reserve to generate interests and profits from low-risk long-term bond-category investments and plow back such gains into the Medical Endowment Fund. 10% of reserve can be used to set up another endowment to provide limited unemployment bridging financing. Such endowment system will not result in welfarism under prudential insurances and mutual assistance scheme to prevent abuse. At this moment, coupled to the high costs propagated by the government citizens are too stressed and will always face problems with livelihood whenever breadwinner especially sole breadwinner falls ill or unemployed.
(4) MEF to operate like Medical Shield - to finance partially (up to 60%) major illness treatment costs (40% payable by citizens under existing medishield) -
of coz!!! rotten peanut kia... brought noting but shame to tis country...Originally posted by yuko-ogura:wah..so fierce...
shld banished him from S'pore. -
It is not that here is anti-welfare or whatever... Sometimes if we want a welfare state, then be prepared to see what is happening in Australia... Unemployed ppl not looking for jobs, feeding onto pensions... Furthermore, income tax rate there is roughly abt 40% vs 20% here...Originally posted by robertteh:ONE PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO NKF PROBLEM:
(1) Modify government's anti-welfare and anti-medical care for the sick, aged and the underclass.
(2) Use a portion of tax traditional intended for medical care of the popultion to build up an Medical Endowment Fund. (MEF)
(3) Use say 20 % of reserve to generate interests and profits from low-risk long-term bond-category investments and plow back such gains into the Medical Endowment Fund. 10% of reserve can be used to set up another endowment to provide limited unemployment bridging financing. Such endowment system will not result in welfarism under prudential insurances and mutual assistance scheme to prevent abuse. At this moment, coupled to the high costs propagated by the government citizens are too stressed and will always face problems with livelihood whenever breadwinner especially sole breadwinner falls ill or unemployed.
(4) MEF to operate like Medical Shield - to finance partially (up to 60%) major illness treatment costs (40% payable by citizens under existing medishield)
It is only what sort of choices you want... -
Yes, my idea is what I think. If not I wouldn't be writing about it right?Originally posted by sbst275:To be frank, sometimes your idea is kinda selfish and iswhat you think
Selfish? Did I ever say I am generous?
Anyway, my initial reply was just to clarify that not everyone disagrees with Robert's points. -
If you are to read carefully my above-mentioned suggestions, the government will not run into welfarism problem because the citizens are using part of their own medishield and the government will only be bearing only marginal part of the costs of medical care and as for that part, the government carefully take it out of extraordinary gains from its a fraction of reserves.Originally posted by sbst275:It is not that here is anti-welfare or whatever... Sometimes if we want a welfare state, then be prepared to see what is happening in Australia... Unemployed ppl not looking for jobs, feeding onto pensions... Furthermore, income tax rate there is roughly abt 40% vs 20% here...
It is only what sort of choices you want...
The endowment set up will be protected as its capital sums will remain intact under careful management.
If government does not do anything to help the people who are sick, aged or unemployed, the reserves will count for nothing and at the end might end up being used to increase ministers' salaries. bonuses or extravagant projects like the 7 wonders or golden taps, mercedes and expensive tiles and arches.
Which is better? -
Well, for me, I will find that if more awareness are made onto personal savings, it would be even betterOriginally posted by robertteh:If you are to read carefully my above-mentioned suggestions, the government will not run into welfarism problem because the citizens are using part of their own medishield and the government will only be bearing only marginal part of the costs of medical care and as for that part, the government carefully take it out of extraordinary gains from its a fraction of reserves.
The endowment set up will be protected as its capital sums will remain intact under careful management.
If government does not do anything to help the people who are sick, aged or unemployed, the reserves will count for nothing and at the end might end up being used to increase ministers' salaries. bonuses or extravagant projects like the 7 wonders or golden taps, mercedes and expensive tiles and arches.
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If you think that there is a tenous link at best, then i say that you are misguided. The parallels btw NKF and Singapore Inc is clear for all to see. Stop looking at things thru tinted glasses.Originally posted by sbst275:This matter to be frank, always ppl like to link untruth
For 1 thing, NKF is not equal to Govt or PAP... It is only ppl that only know layman term will link this...
Of course govt is in fact as there was no control onto the charity organisation -
To help those lower income, yes a total welfare state wun work here in a East society
What I suggest is a multi approach to this
1) Funds that robbert has mentioned over medical bills
2) Savings, I think that POSB campaign back in the 1970's have failed today
3) Getting them to step on their feet, upgrade them with skills and get them jobs... Upgrading of skills course fee should be paid by govt so to get them to be indep