LTA clamping down on Fog Lamps!!

• ndsef

  31 Dec 05, 01:42

  I have highlighted this in the Cars Forum before, so thought I might as well post it here too...
  
  If you have not noticed, read the news quite some time ago, LTA is coming down hard on Fog lamp offenders. Fog Lamps can only be used when (technically speaking) there is fog or poor visibility. Due to numerous complaints by the public on the misuse of them, LTA has decided to clamp down on its usage.
  
  From the time the news came out till now, only warning letters are being issued. But I heard that LTA will soon go all out to enforce this and fine offenders. So, if you drive, please take note...
• ShutterBug

  31 Dec 05, 05:19

  Yes, indeed.
  
  Fog Lamps are meant to be turned ON during heavy downpours at night, or in the day when sunlight is not bright enough during a heavy rain. But often and usually, there are a lot of motorists who turn on their fog lamps, on clear nights in addition to their glaring white or blue headlamps!!
  
  I hope LTA start being harsh on these recalcitrant motorists and impose stiff and steep FINES for inconsiderate use of BLUE headlamps and fog lamps!
  
  Mentalities of motorists in Singapore are embarrasing; must faster, flashier, and brightest. What the frig! Primitive attitude.
  
  
• Atobe

  31 Dec 05, 05:32

  
  At times one wonder who is managing LTA, and the qualifications of the personnels that formulate vehicle guidelines ?
  
  Are they a bunch of Bureaucrats, or Automobile Engineers ?
  
  The last time when LTA made a fool of themselves was when they back track on their decision to ban the "Third Brake Lamp" - (the red light on the rear windshield).
  
  That decision was based on their professional opinion that the "Third Brake Light" will end up confusing Singaporean Drivers.
  
  Somehow, the "Third Brake Lamp" do not seem to pose any confusing problems to drivers in Australia, Europe, Japan, and even in Malaysia - but the drivers of this little First World Country is looked at differently by LTA.
  
  Are the fog lamps fitted at the bumpers of Singapore Car truly "Fog Lamps" - with the light being so focus that it actually can penetrate fog and sleet rainfall ?
  
  Unfortunately, these 'boutique fog lamps' are only fashion statements that serve no safety purpose as 'true fog lamps', and for city driving there is practically no necessity to have these EXTRA lamps being fitted.
  
  These 'boutique fog lamps' give a FALSE SENSE of assurance to Singapore drivers travelling into Peninsular Malaysia, as its effective range is too short compared to the 'Real Thing'. Its effective role as "fog lamps" is questionable.
  
  Is the concern towards 'Fog Lamps' being misplaced, when the actual concern should go towards the banning of those new type of head lamps which produce the "BLINDINGLY PURE WHITE LIGHT" that seem to be the current 'GLARING fashion statement' for the newer cars ?
  
  
• chunyong

  31 Dec 05, 07:48

  must fine them heavily
• Troy437

  31 Dec 05, 07:53

  Originally posted by chunyong:

  must fine them heavily

  Very true.
  If you can't see without fog lights on a normal day, there is something wrong with your vision. Dun drive!
• anonymouscoward

  31 Dec 05, 10:08

  anyone knows if halogen head lamps are permitted? if you ask me, I find those white, irritating halogen head lamps so much more annoying that fog lamps.
• chunyong

  31 Dec 05, 12:04

  Originally posted by anonymouscoward:

  anyone knows if halogen head lamps are permitted? if you ask me, I find those white, irritating halogen head lamps so much more annoying that fog lamps.

  u mean Ji-non ones huh ?
• SBS9828X

  31 Dec 05, 12:12

  i dun mid ppl putting for cosmetic purpouses, but if they are to use it like headlights then screw them!
• alwaysdisturbed

  31 Dec 05, 12:12

  Originally posted by anonymouscoward:

  anyone knows if halogen head lamps are permitted? if you ask me, I find those white, irritating halogen head lamps so much more annoying that fog lamps.

  agree...sometimes while drivin suddenly u find dat someone's lites is shining into ur eye thru one of ur mirrors...n its no other den those white n blue headlamps frm the back...
  
  
• ndsef

  31 Dec 05, 13:43

  Originally posted by anonymouscoward:

  anyone knows if halogen head lamps are permitted? if you ask me, I find those white, irritating halogen head lamps so much more annoying that fog lamps.

  Actually all head lights are halogen type. I think you are referring to the High intensity discharge lights aka HID. These are factory fitted in most german made cars and Lexus. HID is useful if you drive at night on North South highway, as it lights up the road in front like as if it is day light, good visibility.
  
  But these HID lights are fast becoming a status related fixtures on normal cars. With aftermarket HID lights at cheap prices, even KIA cars have them now.
  
  These are really not necessary in Singapore city driving, since our roads are always well lighted. For me, I am sticking to the original "yellow" lights as I feel that they provide better visibility under street lighting conditions.
• ndsef

  31 Dec 05, 13:48

  Originally posted by Atobe:

  At times one wonder who is managing LTA, and the qualifications of the personnels that formulate vehicle guidelines ?
  
  Are they a bunch of Bureaucrats, or Automobile Engineers ?
  
  The last time when LTA made a fool of themselves was when they back track on their decision to ban the "Third Brake Lamp" - (the red light on the rear windshield).
  
  That decision was based on their professional opinion that the "Third Brake Light" will end up confusing Singaporean Drivers.
  
  Somehow, the "Third Brake Lamp" do not seem to pose any confusing problems to drivers in Australia, Europe, Japan, and even in Malaysia - but the drivers of this little First World Country is looked at differently by LTA.
  
  Are the fog lamps fitted at the bumpers of Singapore Car truly "Fog Lamps" - with the light being so focus that it actually can penetrate fog and sleet rainfall ?
  
  Unfortunately, these 'boutique fog lamps' are only fashion statements that serve no safety purpose as 'true fog lamps', and for city driving there is practically no necessity to have these EXTRA lamps being fitted.
  
  These 'boutique fog lamps' give a FALSE SENSE of assurance to Singapore drivers travelling into Peninsular Malaysia, as its effective range is too short compared to the 'Real Thing'. Its effective role as "fog lamps" is questionable.
  
  Is the concern towards 'Fog Lamps' being misplaced, when the actual concern should go towards the banning of those new type of head lamps which produce the "BLINDINGLY PURE WHITE LIGHT" that seem to be the current 'GLARING fashion statement' for the newer cars ?
  
  

  Actually its true, real fog lamps give out a much higher intensity light compared to the ones fitted on most cars in Singapore. There is also a reason for the lamps to be fitted below near to the road surface as it is true that fog forms at a distance from the road surface hence fog lamps provide the necessary lighting that the conventional lamps don't under heavy fog situation.
  
  AND in heavy downpour, fog lamps don't provide any help at all. fog lamps don't light up the roads in such a condition. In fact high beam provides better visibility in this case.
  
  I personally came across drivers using high beams during stormy weathers in Singapore. Truthfully, in a storm, high beams are not so irritating any more, due to the vast amount of light being cut out by the rain.
• alwaysdisturbed

  31 Dec 05, 14:56

  Originally posted by ndsef:

  Actually its true, real fog lamps give out a much higher intensity light compared to the ones fitted on most cars in Singapore. There is also a reason for the lamps to be fitted below near to the road surface as it is true that fog forms at a distance from the road surface hence fog lamps provide the necessary lighting that the conventional lamps don't under heavy fog situation.
  
  AND in heavy downpour, fog lamps don't provide any help at all. fog lamps don't light up the roads in such a condition. In fact high beam provides better visibility in this case.
  I personally came across drivers using high beams during stormy weathers in Singapore. Truthfully, in a storm, high beams are not so irritating any more, due to the vast amount of light being cut out by the rain.

  meanin we shld all switch to high beam durin heavy dwnpours?
• SBS9828X

  31 Dec 05, 15:01

  Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

  meanin we shld all switch to high beam durin heavy dwnpours?

  correction: in desprate times of very very very heavy downpours