it depends on how you see it lah ... if you squeeze the higher income earners too much, you'd lessen the incentive for them to strive, people'd think, what's the point of slogging so hard, when in the end any increase in my income will be taxed away anyways ? an example, in some western countries like Canada, you'd end up around 40% income tax at the higher end of the earning scale, so you'd end up with lawyers having about as much take home pay as a, say, admin personal working for some goverment department, everyone can drive a new chevy or mazda of course, but you wouldn't see a lot of new cadillacs or mercedes around ... is that a good situation ? ... that is something society has to decide ...Originally posted by folliclely challenged:I think it's fine to aim high even when still a student lah. Don't so fast pour cold water on them
What's Elitism?? It's not just about being rich and successful only right, there's also the payback and contribute back to society right??
Fine.... get all the millionaires together... gahmen should then tax the crap out of them and redirect the $$$ to the needy.
Apparently our gahmen seems rather reluctant to milk the fat cows.....
You pretty much summed it up.Originally posted by dragg:hahaha.
lots of people dream and talk about wanting to be this and that when they are young.
in the end how many actually make it?
ideally its supposed to be the rich and elites "willingly" fork out their resources for the benefit of the people below them.. fairy tale lar i noe.Originally posted by folliclely challenged:I think it's fine to aim high even when still a student lah. Don't so fast pour cold water on them. Although I must say he does sound like an arrogant prick. Reading the way he describe the "average joe down the street" with such indignance.... sure make me kinda sick. I've seen billionaires showing more humility, modesty and compassion.
What's Elitism?? It's not just about being rich and successful only right, there's also the payback and contribute back to society right??
Fine.... get all the millionaires together... gahmen should then tax the crap out of them and redirect the $$$ to the needy.
Apparently our gahmen seems rather reluctant to milk the fat cows.....
If talk got use i will be willing to talk nonstop to get the $....Originally posted by oxford mushroom:"I see material possessions as a justification of my achievements and self-worth. Sad, you might say, but that's me. My fix comes from the next increase in my income and the next competition I win. And I love every minute of it.
Some might say that my goals are, at the very least, lofty, but I have come to believe that anything is possible. I know what I want and work very hard - often 19 hours a day - to ensure that I walk the talk.
I cannot imagine living life like the average Joe down the street."
(Excerpted from the Straits Times 2 Jan 2006)
The writer is a third-year business student at the Singapore Management University. That's what young Singaporeans want now....would it be the ruling party or the Opposition that will help him achieve his goal. He wants to be the elite, not the average Joe. I guess the givrnment's constant harping on elitism has really taken root...As he said, he cannot imagine life as an average Joe down the street. What if you are an average Joe? Is there a future for you in Singapore? Your future leaders might not think so...
We can always outsource it. Invite Walmart to Open Shop in SIngapore.Originally posted by ShutterBug:This idiot probably doesn't know that the average Joe's of Singapore are the ones selling fresh produce in wet markets, driving buses, taxis, hawking simple wares, running small businesses, and whatever.
Will "sterling silver" personalities like him undertale the nitty-gritties?? Can you imagine SIngapore full of elites? There'd be no one selling fresh produce in wet markets and any of the above occupations!!
u got see cow milking themselves b4 meh???Originally posted by folliclely challenged:Fine.... get all the millionaires together... gahmen should then tax the crap out of them and redirect the $$$ to the needy.
Apparently our gahmen seems rather reluctant to milk the fat cows.....
U are correct. There gotta to be a right balance and threshold. If we still see jobless people not by choice and suffering marginalized destitutes...... I believe that's an indication the the fat cows has not been milked enough. When I say fat cow..... it includes the gahmen as well horOriginally posted by Fatum:it depends on how you see it lah ... if you squeeze the higher income earners too much, you'd lessen the incentive for them to strive, people'd think, what's the point of slogging so hard, when in the end any increase in my income will be taxed away anyways ? an example, in some western countries like Canada, you'd end up around 40% income tax at the higher end of the earning scale, so you'd end up with lawyers having about as much take home pay as a, say, admin personal working for some goverment department, everyone can drive a new chevy or mazda of course, but you wouldn't see a lot of new cadillacs or mercedes around ... is that a good situation ? ... that is something society has to decide ...
or rather magnificently delusionalOriginally posted by BillyBong:This SMU fellow is either supremely confident or magnificently overconfident.
Average joe is not bad lah.... but high flyer better lorOriginally posted by Ito_^:seriously, average joe very bad meh. kns. i dun mind be the average joe lor.
Dun say never... scarly tio beh pio, 4D, TOTO and become overnight millionaireOriginally posted by Salman:Good luck to him. But he's unlikely to get that million by 25.
not many care though. We all know the 5 richest man in US by their weath and assets but do we know how much they return back to society?? No one knows and no one cares (Gates,Dell,Buffet,the other MicroS fella and the Oracle fella)Originally posted by NuLife:Good to have big goals and dreams than not having any.
However, from here, we see that the society view of the rich being
successful may be alittle flawed.
So what if someone is a millionaire and seemed successful
when his character sucks and he does not contribute
to society in one way or another??
Perhaps insecure lahOriginally posted by NuLife:This guy's thinking seemed pathetic,
putting material wealth and increment as a guage of his self-worth.
The thing is, he knows that too. Not so bad huh?
Well said... given a choice between Taiwan, PRC and local grad.... I usually choose the Taiwanese or PRC. They have been taught to analyze and think. The average local kid has been conidtioned to regurgitate and complain when he has not been promoted after 1yr on the job... good grief.Originally posted by NuLife:However, on a slightly different note,
we need and shld encourage people to dream big
and work hard towards that.
I have to say, the problem with Singaporeans is that they do not
dare to dream, let alone dream big.
Every1 seemed too comfortable being the average Joe.
and pour cold water to those who dared to dream.
Compare us with the US and China.
Not everyone can and dare to dream big.
We shuld encourage those who dared.
Why do we welcome FTs with open arms and
not our own dreamers/talents?
No... but gahmen is suppose to me the milkmaid mah!!!!Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):u got see cow milking themselves b4 meh???![]()
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Highly possible if he is so drawn to High Life. Before he can make his first 30K, he may already chalked too much credit card debtsOriginally posted by dragg:i think it is easier to go bankrupt at 25.