Eyes set on being a millionaire by age 25
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It's good to be ambitious. But having clear and specific goals will help you better.
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There is a chance if he ends up as a successful fund manager. The Christmas bonus for top fund managers in London this year runs into millions of pounds...Originally posted by Salman:Good luck to him. But he's unlikely to get that million by 25.
Qualifications and experience don't count for much in this line....it's instinct and luck rather than what they teach you at LSE... -
if he/she was good he/she would be in harvard business school on scholarship and not a third tier university like smu.
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what is wrong with SMU? I am not from SMU, but I see you are not being objective. Just coz he looks arrogant doesn't mean you can go around insulting SMU.Originally posted by vito_corleone:if he/she was good he/she would be in harvard business school on scholarship and not a third tier university like smu.
and what is so great about being a scholar? I had a scholarship, but I don't see myself any different from others. Everyone's equally human, so don't belittle those who dont have a scholarship
The fellow may be arrogant, but at least he has a goal. I have seen many others not having any goals, and just wallow their lives away. However, I am also agreeable that he needs to have clear and specific steps to achieve his goal.
To those who don't believe 25 you can reach millionaire status, achieving millionairehood at 25 is not impossible. Difficult but not impossible. Yes there are hundreds who fail, but at least these people dare to dream. What about those who just sit there, pour cold water on others' dreams, and then are forever stuck in the rat race? So being a rat is better than having a dream? -
Wah kaoz, Li Ka Shing also come to post in forums, lol... I thought should be at home counting money until hand cramps... Anyway, I think it's not good to be arrogant like this prick who boast about wanting to be a millionaire, it's fine to have dreams but I hate people who are arrogant. More often than not, when I see such people, I will not help them succeed. I believe I belong to the average Joe category, and most people do, so if the majority of people don't like you, you just missed out on a heck lot of opportunities in life. For example if there are some good opportunities to make money, I will not give it to them. If this arrogant chap is in trouble, I won't give a damn. And you know, in this society, you need good friends around. Otherwise, when you're in trouble, you will be, oh so lonely. For example I argued with my dad 3 months back and moved out immediately that night, lol, less than an hour of the argument, without my friends I would have to stay at hotel every night, or budget budget sleep in the streets, lol. I don't even have any belongings, just took my laptop and go out, luckily I always have some spare cash and good friends to count on.Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:It's good to be ambitious. But having clear and specific goals will help you better. -
I know this guy. Believe me, he is one of the better students in SMU. Not in terms of academic grades but more of vision for the future. Don't be surprised if he actually achieves it. I wouldn't call such a vision arrogance. In fact, I call it bravery and having the guts to ink his dreams down for all to see.
Seriously, how many of us dare to write our dreams truthfully for all to see? More so, how many of us EVEN have real big dreams or just simply live our lifes from day to day? Get on the MRT n bus, or walk down the street, they are all infront of you, average joes. They also had dreams once, i'm sure... I'm sure they still have but why didn't they achieve it? I suppose there was no actionable outcome of their dreams. Maybe procrastination, maybe cause of circumstances but whatever the case, they didn't achieve it.
I believe there's a natural bit of arrogance when one achieves in life. If not why buy a Lamborghini or Ferrari? It's basically to signal to the rest of the cheap car drivers that they have arrived in life and are more successful. The poor guys may say they define their life not in terms of material wealth, but really, that's simply finding an excuse for not making it big in life but just taking what life has given them.
I wun pour cold water on his dreams and call him arrogant. In fact, i like such attitude. This is the attitude of achievers who DARE to say it. Of course there are achievers who are more quiet and humble. To each his own I say.
Whatever the situation, at the end of the day, ask yourself... Have I achieved?
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No one is against his dreams about being ultra-materialistic.
That is his life.
If he is satisfied with so much material stuff as his achievements, so be it.
But, there is no need to pass a silly remarks of not standing to be a average joe on the street.
That speaks a lot about his character and his upbringing.
There is nothing wrong with being a average joe.
It is the average joe that will assist him to be a millionaire and average joe that build his ferrari. -
if it is you. I think it will be unlikely. But for others, i think it is possible. 1 million dollar is not alot of money you know. and it also depends what is his definition of milllionaire.Originally posted by Salman:Good luck to him. But he's unlikely to get that million by 25.
the only problem is unless he skip National Service -
working hard will only bring your 40% of the result, the rest will have to depends on your networking skills and also be at the right place at the right time...Originally posted by MetalGear:I know this guy. Believe me, he is one of the better students in SMU. Not in terms of academic grades but more of vision for the future. Don't be surprised if he actually achieves it. I wouldn't call such a vision arrogance. In fact, I call it bravery and having the guts to ink his dreams down for all to see.
Seriously, how many of us dare to write our dreams truthfully for all to see? More so, how many of us EVEN have real big dreams or just simply live our lifes from day to day? Get on the MRT n bus, or walk down the street, they are all infront of you, average joes. They also had dreams once, i'm sure... I'm sure they still have but why didn't they achieve it? I suppose there was no actionable outcome of their dreams. Maybe procrastination, maybe cause of circumstances but whatever the case, they didn't achieve it.
I believe there's a natural bit of arrogance when one achieves in life. If not why buy a Lamborghini or Ferrari? It's basically to signal to the rest of the cheap car drivers that they have arrived in life and are more successful. The poor guys may say they define their life not in terms of material wealth, but really, that's simply finding an excuse for not making it big in life but just taking what life has given them.
I wun pour cold water on his dreams and call him arrogant. In fact, i like such attitude. This is the attitude of achievers who DARE to say it. Of course there are achievers who are more quiet and humble. To each his own I say.
Whatever the situation, at the end of the day, ask yourself... Have I achieved? -
Tax was just a spun off from Robin Hood's "taking from the rich and give to the poor". The truth is tax is really just taking money from the average joe on the street. The rich pay little tax as they "hide" their assets behind large corporation.Originally posted by folliclely challenged:Fine.... get all the millionaires together... gahmen should then tax the crap out of them and redirect the $$$ to the needy.
Apparently our gahmen seems rather reluctant to milk the fat cows.....
It's ignorant people like you which lets the gahment have their way. -
Wow wow, you're suggesting that arrogance and success go hand in hand. Seriously, I beg to differ because I do have alot of wealthy friends and they ARE multi millionaires by the age of 23. I also know older people in their sixties who are also multi millionaires. Overall, I must surprise you to say, based on the experience I have had, the rich people sometimes are much nicer and friendier than you expect. In contrast, this friend of yours, is being really arrogant and I can't see that much of such trait in the wealthy people. I won't say he shouldn't have such a dream, but the average joes like me sure won't like to have such a friend really. And one last thing I would like to say... Being the best students in SMU doesn't mean you'll be best at making money in real life. Oh yeah, in fact, have you heard of this saying that goes something like... It's more important who you know, than what you know. Hope that helps.Originally posted by MetalGear:I know this guy. Believe me, he is one of the better students in SMU. Not in terms of academic grades but more of vision for the future. Don't be surprised if he actually achieves it. I wouldn't call such a vision arrogance. In fact, I call it bravery and having the guts to ink his dreams down for all to see.
Seriously, how many of us dare to write our dreams truthfully for all to see? More so, how many of us EVEN have real big dreams or just simply live our lifes from day to day? Get on the MRT n bus, or walk down the street, they are all infront of you, average joes. They also had dreams once, i'm sure... I'm sure they still have but why didn't they achieve it? I suppose there was no actionable outcome of their dreams. Maybe procrastination, maybe cause of circumstances but whatever the case, they didn't achieve it.
I believe there's a natural bit of arrogance when one achieves in life. If not why buy a Lamborghini or Ferrari? It's basically to signal to the rest of the cheap car drivers that they have arrived in life and are more successful. The poor guys may say they define their life not in terms of material wealth, but really, that's simply finding an excuse for not making it big in life but just taking what life has given them.
I wun pour cold water on his dreams and call him arrogant. In fact, i like such attitude. This is the attitude of achievers who DARE to say it. Of course there are achievers who are more quiet and humble. To each his own I say.
Whatever the situation, at the end of the day, ask yourself... Have I achieved? -
Reading too many motivational books can sometimes do more harm than good.
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Speaking of this, I have bought 3 Rich dad poor dad books... Silly me... The author is a scammer. Check this out...Originally posted by An0nym0us:Reading too many motivational books can sometimes do more harm than good.
http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html
Motivational books are good lah, it makes you want to have something to look forward to, something to aim for. And it helps to improve people like me... Last time I had such a terrible personality, was so childish and immature and typical loser, a typical complainer, now I don't complain anymore about life, no matter how bad it can get. I've turned the corner. I am quite optimistic now in fact. I am still childish sometimes, haha, I think no matter how many books I read, some things just don't change. -
Agree.Originally posted by soul_rage:To those who don't believe 25 you can reach millionaire status, achieving millionairehood at 25 is not impossible. Difficult but not impossible. Yes there are hundreds who fail, but at least these people dare to dream. What about those who just sit there, pour cold water on others' dreams, and then are forever stuck in the rat race? So being a rat is better than having a dream?
The difference between him and those who poured cold water
is that he dared to dream big and do something abt it,
than talk nothing and do nothing == aka average joe in the street.
That already made him and those who dared to try
in a different league, and made him a more worthy character.
If one only looks at the problems and not the goal,
he can never do something great. -
Those ney-sayers are the average joe.Originally posted by Medicated Oil:There is nothing wrong with being a average joe.
You see the difference? -
Character and Material Wealth does not really come hand in hand.Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:Wow wow, you're suggesting that arrogance and success go hand in hand. Seriously, I beg to differ because I do have alot of wealthy friends and they ARE multi millionaires by the age of 23. I also know older people in their sixties who are also multi millionaires. Overall, I must surprise you to say, based on the experience I have had, the rich people sometimes are much nicer and friendier than you expect. In contrast, this friend of yours, is being really arrogant and I can't see that much of such trait in the wealthy people. I won't say he shouldn't have such a dream, but the average joes like me sure won't like to have such a friend really. And one last thing I would like to say... Being the best students in SMU doesn't mean you'll be best at making money in real life. Oh yeah, in fact, have you heard of this saying that goes something like... It's more important who you know, than what you know. Hope that helps.
Infact, when one gets rich, how he/she behaves/treat others
show his true character.
But also, when one is rich, it is easier to be seen as good than bad,
as it will be easy to treat frens to meals and do charities work then.
Like I mentioned before, there may be something wrong
with the society definition of success as being rich and wealthy.
but again, nothing wrong, the rich usually create jobs,
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Arrogance and success DO go hand in hand. Your friends (multi millionaires) have those times when they are nice and friendly. Try becoming their opponent, and they will without doubt blast you into kingdom come.
The point being, arrogance stems from self-confidence, and when such people are fighting battles, that air of arrogance comes into play. I don't see this as bad, coz this 'air' is what differentiates them from those millions of 'average joes' who have long lost their dreams.
I know of many of my friends, who sit around and laugh at other people who try, saying that out of 10 people who go into biz, only 1 succeed. My question to all of you here is, is that necessarily true? Perhaps that is just heresy by many of those people who like to pour cold waters onto other people's dreams.
I have a dream, and I am actively pursuing it, even though it is taking up > 16 hours of my time. However, it is worth it, coz I have a passion for what I want, strive for it, and as each passing day goes by, the probability of success goes higher. Never mind it goes higher bit by bit (sometimes negligible), but to attain success is not to just sit around and be negative, but to have that perseverance to get something to succeed.
The chinese say 'Thousands of things are difficult at the beginning'. I found that to be very true after I started out on my dream. Most people would just give up at the 1st hurdle. I, however, find myself passing thru several hurdles so far, yet there are still so many challenges ahead, but that feeling of success is also coming near.
I also have friends who laughed at me, who said that I am crazy, trying to become a millionaire. They told me that it is impossible. But just my 2 cents worth, it is IMPOSSIBLE to only those who don't dare to even try, like these friends of mine.
Sometimes, you can real upset with these people, coz they are the ones who kill other people's dreams. Perhaps the SMU student is upset, for he has encountered many of such people, and thus wrote that article to the newspaper.Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:Wow wow, you're suggesting that arrogance and success go hand in hand. Seriously, I beg to differ because I do have alot of wealthy friends and they ARE multi millionaires by the age of 23. I also know older people in their sixties who are also multi millionaires. Overall, I must surprise you to say, based on the experience I have had, the rich people sometimes are much nicer and friendier than you expect. In contrast, this friend of yours, is being really arrogant and I can't see that much of such trait in the wealthy people. I won't say he shouldn't have such a dream, but the average joes like me sure won't like to have such a friend really. And one last thing I would like to say... Being the best students in SMU doesn't mean you'll be best at making money in real life. Oh yeah, in fact, have you heard of this saying that goes something like... It's more important who you know, than what you know. Hope that helps. -
You know, if I somehow din make it, I would be proud to say that I have at least tried, and that I tasted that passion to want to succeed. Never have I felt that sort of zest in life since I decided to pursue my dream. Such a wonderful feeling (even though I am tired sometimes )
Many of those who start working life simply become zombies passing the day in and out without any direction in life.
I am not insulting anyone here, but to advise everyone, to dare to dream, and to make your dreams come true (at least, must try). If you have no dreams, then don't pour cold water on someone who has.
I have a friend, who gave up the rat race, and is now in Australia and is pursuing his dream of being a musician. To that, I applaud his courage as well, to throw away the stable life of a rat chasing for a piece of cheese, and to try to make his dream come true.
And by the way, I WILL make it. Failure is not an option.Originally posted by NuLife:Agree.
The difference between him and those who poured cold water
is that he dared to dream big and do something abt it,
than talk nothing and do nothing == aka average joe in the street.
That already made him and those who dared to try
in a different league, and made him a more worthy character.
If one only looks at the problems and not the goal,
he can never do something great. -
While I do agree with you on some of the things you said, but I don't believe arrogance and success comes together. I don't think it's particularly fair to associate people who is successful and brand them as arrogant. I mean, you don't even know them, so how can you possibly judge my friends without sufficient knowledge or facts. I'm not implying that all rich people are nice, no way, I have met a few who ain't nice but because of a few black sheeps, people may associate wealth/success with arrogance. It's just like associating Africans with AIDS just because they have among the world's highest AIDS ratio, it's totally unfair to that african if you see one and condemn him/her with AIDS.
Furthermore, I believe even the average Joe can be really mean when you become their opponent, so the statement's slightly unfair once again to target only the wealthy people.
Besides that, it's always good to have dreams. Being laughed at is not a big issue unless you take things personally. Throughout my life, I have been a clown too, everyone have their moments of being laughed at until they achieve something. So don't sweat the small stuff. They don't decide your fate, you do.Originally posted by soul_rage:Arrogance and success DO go hand in hand. Your friends (multi millionaires) have those times when they are nice and friendly. Try becoming their opponent, and they will without doubt blast you into kingdom come.
The point being, arrogance stems from self-confidence, and when such people are fighting battles, that air of arrogance comes into play. I don't see this as bad, coz this 'air' is what differentiates them from those millions of 'average joes' who have long lost their dreams.
I know of many of my friends, who sit around and laugh at other people who try, saying that out of 10 people who go into biz, only 1 succeed. My question to all of you here is, is that necessarily true? Perhaps that is just heresy by many of those people who like to pour cold waters onto other people's dreams.
I have a dream, and I am actively pursuing it, even though it is taking up > 16 hours of my time. However, it is worth it, coz I have a passion for what I want, strive for it, and as each passing day goes by, the probability of success goes higher. Never mind it goes higher bit by bit (sometimes negligible), but to attain success is not to just sit around and be negative, but to have that perseverance to get something to succeed.
The chinese say 'Thousands of things are difficult at the beginning'. I found that to be very true after I started out on my dream. Most people would just give up at the 1st hurdle. I, however, find myself passing thru several hurdles so far, yet there are still so many challenges ahead, but that feeling of success is also coming near.
I also have friends who laughed at me, who said that I am crazy, trying to become a millionaire. They told me that it is impossible. But just my 2 cents worth, it is IMPOSSIBLE to only those who don't dare to even try, like these friends of mine.
Sometimes, you can real upset with these people, coz they are the ones who kill other people's dreams. Perhaps the SMU student is upset, for he has encountered many of such people, and thus wrote that article to the newspaper. -
there's a difference between being realistic and idealistic.
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I echo vito's point.
I know a couple of PSC scholars who left the elite admin service to start up some dot com in the late 90s. They also talk big about making millions, pursuing dreams, conquering the world. In fact, the more arrogant one claimed that the civil service was too small for him. Alas, the dot com collapsed and these people settled into cushy jobs at government linked organisations. In the process, they lost a lot of other people's money.
It's easy to talk big but unless you have an original idea or business insight, being able to look high and far alone doesn't mean you will have a better chance of getting there. -
Err...you mean like Ho Ching?Originally posted by Gazelle:working hard will only bring your 40% of the result, the rest will have to depends on your networking skills and also be at the right place at the right time... -
I cannot help but think of Kate Burton, the British human rights worker who was briefly kidnapped and then released in Gaza.
She is a linguist and speaks several foreign languages fluently, including Arabic. Whenever she picked somewhere to visit, she mastered the langauge before she arrived. She is also expert in sign language; her brother is deaf. Her skills in Spanish complemented her aptitude in French and Flemish which she learnt during her school years in Brussels. From 1987 to 1999 she attended the prestigious European School (Woluwe) in Brussels.
She then went to the London School of Economics to study maths and economics. Upon graduation she decided to work in Gaza with the UN and when the UN pulled out because of the numerous kidnappings, she decided to remain to work with Palestinian families. Even after this kidnapping episode, she has decided to remain in Gaza to continue her work.
Kate Burton is 24. She was a top student in a top University and could easiy get a job at any multinational company. But she opted for a job that will never make her a millionnaire by 25.
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Nice, I didn't know that much about her...Originally posted by oxford mushroom:I cannot help but think of Kate Burton, the British human rights worker who was briefly kidnapped and then released in Gaza.
She is a linguist and speaks several foreign languages fluently, including Arabic. Whenever she picked somewhere to visit, she mastered the langauge before she arrived. She is also expert in sign language; her brother is deaf. Her skills in Spanish complemented her aptitude in French and Flemish which she learnt during her school years in Brussels. From 1987 to 1999 she attended the prestigious European School (Woluwe) in Brussels.
She then went to the London School of Economics to study maths and economics. Upon graduation she decided to work in Gaza with the UN and when the UN pulled out because of the numerous kidnappings, she decided to remain to work with Palestinian families. Even after this kidnapping episode, she has decided to remain in Gaza to continue her work.
Kate Burton is 24. She was a top student in a top University and could easiy get a job at any multinational company. But she opted for a job that will never make her a millionnaire by 25.
Is she an average Jane? I don't think so. -
Too realistic become avg joe liao.Originally posted by dracky:I echo vito's point.
I know a couple of PSC scholars who left the elite admin service to start up some dot com in the late 90s. They also talk big about making millions, pursuing dreams, conquering the world. In fact, the more arrogant one claimed that the civil service was too small for him. Alas, the dot com collapsed and these people settled into cushy jobs at government linked organisations. In the process, they lost a lot of other people's money.
It's easy to talk big but unless you have an original idea or business insight, being able to look high and far alone doesn't mean you will have a better chance of getting there.
At least these people get respect for trying.
You should thank those "unrealistic" people for giving you your rice bowl.