Chaim should give way to a younger person in Potong Pasir
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Hmmm... well, HDB/URA is not run by Chiam. Therefore, if anyone were to fail their duty. It's the government and not Chiam.Originally posted by Salman:So why did you cheer for Chiam for not having to pay parking?
I was simply applying your logic. You mean your logic is flawed?
Regardless, it's a blessing for the residents and visitors that they do not get fine in Potong Pasir. That must have something to do with Chiam since it only theres. Thus, 3 cheers for Chiam! -
potong pasir looks like a backwater...then again chiam has little resources....np parking fines..i tell you why, cause hdb was hoping to create a massive traffic chaos but somehow not many pp folks drive....but that could change with saint andrews schools there...plus for $11k monthly without tax for mp allowance, i sure would stick my butt firmly down...
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Younger blood are emerging from the party right? I am sure Mr Chiam will give way to young pp whom he deems fit to head the party.
Potong pasir has been his stronghold for years though recent polls shows that the support is decreasing..but what do you expect the young people staying there to do? From young, they only recognise PAP. So, they naturally thinks PAP is much better...
Though i dun stay in that area, but the fact that he had won so many elections over PAP contenders, shows that he is indeed capable of something. Prob only older people staying there might know the goods that he did.
For me, opposition or not, I only want my MP to do his/her job properly. -
Is visiting 'funeral' a duty of an MP?Originally posted by anonymouscoward:Do you live in Potong Pasir or ever been there frequently? You have no idea what nonsense you are spouting.
Chaim See Tong has done an excellent job in Potong Pasir in the resident's context. Here's a few example...
1) He spends his own money to rectify public defects when the government refuse to give him money to do so
2) He visit every single funeral and offer his condonlence in his constituency
3) He build facitilities that touches the heart of the residents.. (i.e. benches for the elderly, brick well for burning incense etc...)
4) You don't get fined for carpark in Potong Pasir !!
What has any PAP done to touch the heart of the people?? Upgrading? They only cause more inconvenience. -
Visiting funeral is seen as concern for the ppl, i believe.Originally posted by PRP:Is visiting 'funeral' a duty of an MP? -
Please dont change a good leader just because he is old, measure his commitment level.
A younger person may not have the capablilities of Mr Chaim. He was once the only opposition voice in the parliment. Get laughed at, push around but he still around. I guess his skin is very thick now. -
Doing his duty does not win him the support, it is doing what is outside of his duty that touches the hearts of the people.Originally posted by PRP:Is visiting 'funeral' a duty of an MP?
Other MPs have sense of responsibility, Mr. Chiam has a heart for people! -
Where got freebies? You forgot PAP is Pay & Pay.Originally posted by AF2005:i think consistency of CST winning every election is good enough. PAP have try all kinds of gimmicks and freebies to win over PP voters and yet still fail to get the majority.
same as hougang WP leader.
agree, he has bad judgement on grooming followers in his ex party. i remember the one that kick him out.
lets see how CST fights this new round.
All it needs is one more opposition single seat to upset PAP. I think it could be nee soon east or nee soon central. The nee soon central can be quite unpredictable as it swing from PAP to WP and now back to PAP.
When Mr Jeyaretnam was in Parliament he always asked "Why Pay" but now Mr Low seldom asks.
When Mr Chiam was in S'pore Democratic Party he told us "So Don't Pay" but after he joined S'pore People's Party he is saying "So Please Pay".
The late Mr Harbans Singh of United People's Party assured us "You Pay First until I become Prime Minister then you can stop paying." Unfortunately he passed away before he became PM. That's why we are still paying.
Meanwhile Mr Chee is not paying his fines because he prefers to stay in Queenstown Hotel. -
"Doing his duty does not win him the support", why?If it is really so,it would be sad.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Doing his duty does not win him the support, it is doing what is outside of his duty that touches the hearts of the people.
Other MPs have sense of responsibility, Mr. Chiam has a heart for people! -
Is Mr Chiam a dictator in his party?It is really just a question.
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I suggest to PAP to send an MP who is to be retired (such as Dr Tan Cheng Bok )to contest with Chiam.So Chiam would face a veteran MP & not a newbie.Chiam said he was not afraid of anyone.Let's see whether he would still win.
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Originally posted by PRP:
Since you are going to make the suggestion to PAP.
[b]I suggest to PAP to send an MP who is to be retired (such as Dr Tan Cheng Bok )to contest with Chiam.So Chiam would face a veteran MP & not a newbie.Chiam said he was not afraid of anyone.Let's see whether he would still win. [/b]
PRP, could you please help me to convey my suggestion as well.
Since Chiam said he was not afraid of anyone, i believe PM LHL, SM GCT and MM Lee have also said the same things.
Since everyone (PAP or OPP) said that they are not afraid of anyone, my suggestion to PAP is asking their own election contesting members to pressure PM LHL to field them in SMC rather than in a GRC.
Since every and single PAP candidates will tell the whole world that they are not afraid of anyone in the contest, but can't do much if the party will to field them in a GRC team.
Then they should ask PM LHL to go and tweak the arms of those election department executives to redraw the Singapore election boundaries into 84 Single Wards, doing away with a GRC team concept.
Then everyone got to fight their election battle on a one to one situation.
As to the reasoning why GRC is created in the first place (to ensure minority race participation), the Election Dept will further designate a few wards specifically to be contested by a Malay, Indian or Eurasian candidates.
Too bad if the opposition partys are unable to field any minority race candidates in those specifically stated wards, then walkover lah. PAP win the wards and we still have minority race representation in the paliament.
PRP, how? Can pass on the suggestion for me or not?
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Young,
Thank you for your msg.Pls look at the tiltle of this topic,u posted your opinion under the wrong topic. -
If Chiam were a PAP MP,he would have been told to retire by the party in the last GE.
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It is not a "duty" of MP to visit a funeral. But it goes to show that this particular MP make an effort to be close to his constiutents and relate to them in a personal and informal level.Originally posted by PRP:Is visiting 'funeral' a duty of an MP?
I feel that this is very impt. And the ppl of PP must have felt it also.
I dread the day that PP is "lost" to PAP. It will be a dark day in Singapore poitical history.
To any critic of Chiam:
How many of the exisitng 81 MPs can claim that they CONTEST in five consecutive elections and "WON". I am excluding those who "walkover" which i feel has lesser credibility as they didn't have the mandate fo the people.
And for those who "won" elections, how many didn't do it under the coattails of a high powered minister. -
Yes,Chiam won elections. But how good are his performances as a MP?That's the issue.
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If Chiam were a PAP MP he would not be in Potong Pasir for so long. He would be asked to stand in a GRC to lead young punks like this Seetoh guy. Then Mr Seetoh can become real MP.Originally posted by PRP:If Chiam were a PAP MP,he would have been told to retire by the party in the last GE. -
Chiam should lead a team or join hand with other opp. party to contest in a GRC.If his team can win,then he is really brilliant.
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The govt has the oppositon to criticise them.So u see thye are so 'good'?So the opposition also need to be criticised.