Before Khaw even became a Minister, there was already the NKF.Originally posted by anonymouscoward:Khaw?? He the reason why we have a NKF saga in the first place. Looking at the way he defended Durai and then acted and replied defensively (like a Malaysian minister) during the press, not even fit to be a Minister!
Yes, I've intentionally left out his admission but that is because it was expected of him. After so much revelation, I would be utterly disgusted if he would still insist he has no fault!Originally posted by BillyBong:As you evidently failed to acknowledge, he personally admitted to being 'silly' for blindly defending Durai and the NKF in the first place and was partially critical of his own MOH for failing to pre-empt the flaws of the NKF system despite numerous opportunities and the whistle-blowing of Archie Ong, Piragasum Singavelu and Tan Kiat Noi (all were sued and setted payments).
For a minister to admit to certain failings within his own ministery, this is already a milestone from the previously 'infallible' mentality of the Ruling party.
How long NKF and the ruling party has been with us is of no relevance!!Originally posted by Atobe:Before Khaw even became a Minister, there was already the NKF.
NKF has been with us for at least THIRTY YEARS !!!
Ruling Party has been with us for at least FORTY YEARS !!!!
Durai had ten years to learn all the arrogant and confrontational approach from the Ruling Party, and use similar strategy towards all those who dare to query and check the every move and decisions of the NKF.
Khaw came into the limelight less then five years as a Minister, and had to clear up the mess made by NKF.
Perhaps with this experience he will be in a better position to sweep up the mess in his Ruling Party - especially to implement more transparency in the GIC and Temasek operations.
As was revealed in the article, the 3 whistle-blowers, Durai, Ong Su Ying and Matilda Chua etc etc have been abusing and mismanaging NKF funds and promoting cronism for longer than a 'few years'.Originally posted by anonymouscoward:How long NKF and the ruling party has been with us is of no relevance!!
Durai did not abuse his authorities until a few years ago. Khaw was already the health minister when warning signs first appeared!
The fact remains that it was under his watch and he turned a blind eye.
Granted that 'admitting' to mistakes may have been the 'only way out' as you have suggested. However, we cannot presume our ministers to be 'infallible'. Else we play right into the hands of the 'infallible' mentality of the Ruling Party.Originally posted by anonymouscoward:Yes, I've intentionally left out his admission but that is because it was expected of him. After so much revelation, I would be utterly disgusted if he would still insist he has no fault!
Admitting to his mistake doesn't make him a cut above the rest. As a matter of fact, we should not expect anything less from any Minister. However, it is unfortunately that most of our Ministers lack responsibility, ownership and the courage to step down for their failure.
Blaming PWC (althought they should take part of the blame) and speaking in a defensive tone is unbecoming for a man of his stature. Like many of his colleague, I find that our Minister lack the ability to carry themselves properly in public. Repeatingly, our Ministers have shown a lack of class and preparation when asking the public; speaking defensively and giving stupid analogy.
yeah i think khaw's all right ... my doctor brother says he is very well respected amongst medical professionals, that he understands how the industry ticks and the problems it faces.Originally posted by BillyBong:Granted that 'admitting' to mistakes may have been the 'only way out' as you have suggested. However, we cannot presume our ministers to be 'infallible'. Else we play right into the hands of the 'infallible' mentality of the Ruling Party.
A minister should be gauged by how he responds and reacts to mistakes made; everyone falls down, its how they pick themselves up.
Khaw Boon Wan managed the health ministry at the height of SARS, an unenviable position in most eyes. Now he is indirectly responsible to clean up the mess of NKF.
Shouldn't he or anyone be prepared when faced by a hungry media clamouring for attention and juicy tales? Shoudn't he have a right to be correctly positioned before presenting himself? Is it considered 'stupid' for a minister to assign appropriate blame to relevant parties rather than 'stupidly' absording all the blame?
Isn't it a measure of 'class' and basic etiquette that our ministers speak well at press conferences with measured words rather than emotional tandrums?
Reminds me of the time Environment minister Lim Swee Say took responsibility for the NEA scientist coming down with Sars despite the chief of the NEA lab denying that there safety measures at his workplace were lacking.Originally posted by BillyBong:As you evidently failed to acknowledge, he personally admitted to being 'silly' for blindly defending Durai and the NKF in the first place and was partially critical of his own MOH for failing to pre-empt the flaws of the NKF system despite numerous opportunities and the whistle-blowing of Archie Ong, Piragasum Singavelu and Tan Kiat Noi (all were sued and setted payments).
For a minister to admit to certain failings within his own ministery, this is already a milestone from the previously 'infallible' mentality of the Ruling party.
The govt's typical method of assigning blame is to find the most inconvenient target and hang him as the scapegoat.Originally posted by claudetnt:Khaw Boon Wan has screwed up the health system. Its sometimes more expensive to purchase medicines from the poly clinics than from the govt hospitals as a subsidised patient. He has inceased the burden for the poor without any regards even getting your blood tested in the polys can be more expensive than as a subsidised patient in the govt hospitals.
the US of A is too huge and racism varies in degree from region to region..in large, cosmopolitan areas such as new york city or the major californian cities where people of different colours are about as common as sunshine you seldom experience racism..as for more remote or rather...places which recieve less migrants then thats a different case but again i've never been to places like arizona or red-neck hotspots so cant comment on that.Originally posted by Salman:Thats because US is extremely multi racial whereas we are not.
USA is definitely more racist country.
oh pls...Originally posted by spencer99:I prefer Teo Chee Hean as PM rather then George Yeo. TCH got more charisma.
Thankfully, i am not a regular at a polyclinic since the first rule is never get sick!Originally posted by claudetnt:Billy Bong:
"---Could your labelling of Khaw Boon Wan as the sole responsible party for the 'screw-up' of the health scene be any different?---"
Please do check up for your self the rates at the polys. i had experienced it for myself and so had another person who wrote to ST forum page just last week complaining about the rate charged at the poly vs a govt hospital is his case it was more than 4 times for some medications. Todate no response from MOH to his claims but it will be interesting to note their excuse!
In my case it was for mediaction and it could have been cheaper if i had purchased it from TTS hospital.
your response is typical as that of the govt - compare with the private sector but why should we?
The polys are meant to provide a cheaper alternative than the govt and private health services but the polys are deviating and seems to going into the business of making money and its happening now when Khaw is in charge so he has to take the balme, surely!
By "stingy", I suppose what you meant was "overly hard-nosed" or "overly calculative and only take and not give" or shyster-like who will squeeze and suck as much as he can.Originally posted by dreamykite:Folks, choose Teo Chee Hean lah. I heard from an ex-army high ranker that TCH is analytical and friendly.
Be wise in our decision, we mustn't choose the stingy ones else will lead to a downfall. You know I know who are the stingy ones....![]()
choose yellow ones better as the old sayings say that the yellow ones belong to the 'dragon' descendants![]()
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Just look at the classifieds in Singapore...
Just look at the affrimative programs in schools, work places and media.
You call that equality?
u try calling a negro "negro" see wat happen to uOriginally posted by Salman:Here teh definition from dictionary.com
1. A Black person. See Usage Note at black.
2. A member of the Negroid race. Not in scientific use.
You see, 'negro' is not a racist term.
I think your vocab is just not good. You need to read the dictionary more.
Just because it's a technical term, does not make it culturally acceptable.You must be the type that would have failed Cultural Studies and Postcoloniality.Originally posted by RaTtY81:u try calling a negro "negro" see wat happen to u
my fren call a black negro n tat guy got offended by his comments.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Just because it's a technical term, does not make it culturally acceptable.You must be the type that would have failed Cultural Studies and Postcoloniality.![]()
definitely not tharman...he is messing up the education with his ever-so-frequent changes...u dun want ur NS term to reduce to 1.5 yrs then within 2 mths change to 2.5 yrs back...Originally posted by iveco:George Yeo? Not another SAF scholar like LHL.
I prefer the current Education Minister for PM. Who says Indians can't take over the top post?
In fact,I don't see any PM material in the Cabinet.Originally posted by chunyong:definitely not tharman...he is messing up the education with his ever-so-frequent changes...u dun want ur NS term to reduce to 1.5 yrs then within 2 mths change to 2.5 yrs back...