POLL : PM RESPONDS TO WP MANIFESTO
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Well said and put ..In the absence of assurate polls, Website postings is a somewhat close or rough reflection of the approval ratings of the population which the leaders are concerned with ...their powers and million dollars salaries at stake.
cheers!
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this kind of respone from pap, you did better get accustomed to it.
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Do you think the above statement really moved the Garmen to worry?
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the truths exposed by NKF and white-elephant cases and from approval ratings from the straw polls etc. -
Does the forum reflect the masses? Not by a long shot. Singaporeans are reasonable and sober people by nature. I think most people understand the need to work hard in order to build Singapore, not whine. Most of these whiners end up leaving and not building anyway.
These whiners think everything that is good must be pleasant. Well many things that are good for the whole of Singapore and for teh next generation are not pleasant today. If they don't understand that, then they have no business running Singapore.
After seeing the despicable lies and deliberate distortions that they are capable of, I'm glad they are not in power to deceive the masses and destroy Singapore.
I was thinking of voting opposition just two months ago. But after seeing the hatred and bigotry of the oppostion, it is definitely better and safer to vote PAP because I know Singapore can be destroyed with just 5 years of bad policies and politics in the midst of global competition -
How about posting like this one below:
What kind of Government in a small Country of four millions where the road to political freedom to vote is often curtailed by the rulers? Democracy, or Meritocracy or whatever the majority of the people just miss every chance to vote at every election. They are all dying to vote but could never have the chance to vote. There are so many walkovers. The simple answer to tear up the GRCs ! GRCs really smell like yak, that has been, in any case was a PAP Garmen move to allow the original electorate districts manipulated into GRCs with the simple excuse the minority are not represented.. What is laughable is that such gerrymandering so-called in larger and old democracies is strictly forbidden, but in a quiet corner in this great Country the people had quietly condescended to allow the whole system to be foolhardily corrupted into unprecedented great walkover ! Singapore can never again be what a free Country as a freeborn Nation with a free born people. Today we are jailed in an ironclad MERITOCRACY found now..here on planet earth!
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our dear friend and fellow Singaporean! you wrote:
Does the forum reflect the masses? [b] Not by a long shot [b/] . Singaporeans are reasonable and sober people by nature. I think most people understand the need to work hard in order to build Singapore, not whine. Most of these whiners end up leaving and not building anyway.
These whiners think everything that is good must be pleasant. Well many things that are good for the whole of Singapore and for teh next generation are not pleasant today. If they don't understand that, then they have no business running Singapore.
After seeing the despicable lies and deliberate distortions that they are capable of, I'm glad they are not in power to deceive the masses and destroy Singapore.
I was thinking of voting opposition just two months ago. But after seeing the hatred and bigotry of the oppostion, it is definitely better and safer to vote PAP because I know Singapore can be destroyed with just 5 years of bad policies and politics in the midst of global competition
Let me answer your first questionoes the forum reflect the masses? Not by a long shot<[i] Do you know whether it reflects anyone's you have already made the answer very clear
So your heart was thinking about this issue of voting: I was thinking of voting opposition just two months ago. But after seeing the hatred and bigotry of the oppostion, it is definitely better and safer to vote PAP because I know Singapore can be destroyed with just 5 years of bad policies and politics in the midst of global competition [i] very good observation but poor judgement
Uncle here! I was born long before your father came along with you, so U r behind in history!
[i] Not by a long shot<<<<<< So U said it, so it's true? Must it be a long shot.. or a shorter one? Truth is a subjective one, u know?then sadly very short in judgement..LOr! -
You got chance to vote meh?Originally posted by Salman:Does the forum reflect the masses? Not by a long shot. Singaporeans are reasonable and sober people by nature. I think most people understand the need to work hard in order to build Singapore, not whine. Most of these whiners end up leaving and not building anyway.
These whiners think everything that is good must be pleasant. Well many things that are good for the whole of Singapore and for teh next generation are not pleasant today. If they don't understand that, then they have no business running Singapore.
After seeing the despicable lies and deliberate distortions that they are capable of, I'm glad they are not in power to deceive the masses and destroy Singapore.
I was thinking of voting opposition just two months ago. But after seeing the hatred and bigotry of the oppostion, it is definitely better and safer to vote PAP because I know Singapore can be destroyed with just 5 years of bad policies and politics in the midst of global competition
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Err.. old uncle, I'm sorry but I see no substance in your post.
Let me answer your first questionoes the forum reflect the masses? Not by a long shot<[i] Do you know whether it reflects anyone's you have already made the answer very clear
So your heart was thinking about this issue of voting: I was thinking of voting opposition just two months ago. But after seeing the hatred and bigotry of the oppostion, it is definitely better and safer to vote PAP because I know Singapore can be destroyed with just 5 years of bad policies and politics in the midst of global competition [i] very good observation but poor judgement
Uncle here! I was born long before your father came along with you, so U r behind in history!
[i] Not by a long shot<<<<<< So U said it, so it's true? Must it be a long shot.. or a shorter one? Truth is a subjective one, u know?then sadly very short in judgement..LOr![/b]
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hI my dear friend Salman..heheh U r around eh! hurrah I am very please and you wrote:
Err.. old uncle, I'm sorry but I see no substance in your post.
U sure you are that old? Of course I am old enough to die at 60plus..
Like to see some substance of me..say I am not that good looking smiling young girls or ladies or old..I mean I am old ...
goto see my at http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Alien_Own_User's_Page
Now if you wanna collect some angpows or red packet you can come to AMK GRCs ..I hope to vote but can't do it since.. and I have never VOTED once for opposition or PAP.. guess whois my vote next? Nobody will come to-die in AMK GRC for next election.. I give angpows on new Lunar CNY LOr!
goto it Lor then come and parley here!
How old are you then? -
You are not that old lah uncle.
Don't be naughty ok? Vote PAP and be a good Singaporean. -
Salman my boy or girl..or younging..U r like a kid to me..U wrote...
You are not that old lah uncle.
Don't be naughty ok? Vote PAP and be a good Singaporean. I do wish to vote but vote who at AMK GRC?
I am about to die sooner than most ppl here.. and not that old..
how old R you my friend.. let's be serious about it...
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Originally posted by norey:
Salman sounds like a JC or poly student with too much free time on his hands.
Salman my boy or girl..or younging..U r like a kid to me..U wrote...
[b] You are not that old lah uncle.
Don't be naughty ok? Vote PAP and be a good Singaporean. I do wish to vote but vote who at AMK GRC?
I am about to die sooner than most ppl here.. and not that old..
how old R you my friend.. let's be serious about it... [/b]
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Dear charlize
You are right ..Salman has too much to do but is neglecting his JC projects talking about politics..and so un-informed and making so many unsound judgments here,I am also a good learner..ie..
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Dear charlize
You are right ..Salman has too much to do but is neglecting his 'sales' projects talking about politics..and so un-informed and making so many unsound judgments here,I am also a good learner..ie..he's a 1978 ..@ 28 yrs old ..not long ago
Let's see he hears and answers ... [/i] -
Salman gone for his coffee breaks than back to work as a broker..."sales"
slouching out all that dirty muds for his clients..then will come back to answer < hope it's not next year after CNY! Byeyeyey! have to go to get exercise on bicycle...
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Angkat rajas like you, need to be basted in cajun sauce.Because unthinking support is something even a bell pepper can do.Originally posted by Salman:You are not that old lah uncle.
Don't be naughty ok? Vote PAP and be a good Singaporean.
Don't fall for the spin.The MIW has no monopoly on brains. -
wah who are you? telling us to vote for PAPOriginally posted by Salman:You are not that old lah uncle.
Don't be naughty ok? Vote PAP and be a good Singaporean. -
dibehsuaykia ah?Originally posted by charlize:Salman sounds like a JC or poly student with too much free time on his hands.
Go figure. -
I shiok from getting posts from fools like you people. More please.
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Sorry Salman I am so sorry.. Now I know you are back I apologises for all my friends here and BTW I just came back for lunch..but have to go soon, send my wife to shop..
Just one simple question: What is the idea you have of your Ideal Garmen you want or everyone around the world prefer? What is more important your fundamental right to live freely or constrainted by a totalitarian Garmen?
Wait when I come I will response too <others please stay out until he reply, they accuses us of poisoning people's mind already.. BE NICE! and respect our friend Salman, he is one person, we are so many.. Please I beg....> -
trying to copy FI ah. she got orgasm banning ppl, u got orgasm flaming ppl anot?Originally posted by Salman:I shiok from getting posts from fools like you people. More please. -
I get full orgasm exposing liars, and jelly backbone whiners. How about you?
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Originally posted by norey:
Hello norey, have a nice day.
Sorry Salman I am so sorry.. Now I know you are back I apologises for all my friends here and BTW I just came back for lunch..but have to go soon, send my wife to shop..
Just one simple question: [b]What is the idea you have of your Ideal Garmen you want or everyone around the world prefer? What is more important your fundamental right to live freely or constrainted by a totalitarian Garmen?
Wait when I come I will response too <others please stay out until he reply, they accuses us of poisoning people's mind already.. BE NICE! and respect our friend Salman, he is one person, we are so many.. Please I beg....> [/b]
What is a good govt? Our govt comes close really. I came to the conclusion after travelling around the world and seeing how other govts work. Myanmar and Iran are the worst.
I like our govt because it is very focused on governing and not on politics like other countries. If you have opposition for the sake of it, our advantage may be lost. Whatever imperfection you see with PAP is negligible compared to what you can see elsewhere. They make very good long term decisions most of the time and any mistake they made was not due to selfish reasons.
A lot of people may not like the system, wait till they go to USA or Europe or Taiwan. You will cry paying taxes thru your nose and the govt spends your money on welfare for loafers and illegal immmigrants and other nonsensical ways. -
My dear friend Salman, Thank you again so much for the kind reply which we are hearing.. you wrote: Hello norey, have a nice day.
What is a good govt? Our govt comes close really. I came to the conclusion after travelling around the world and seeing how other govts work. Myanmar and Iran are the worst.
I like our govt because it is very focused on governing and not on politics like other countries. If you have opposition for the sake of it, our advantage may be lost. Whatever imperfection you see with PAP is negligible compared to what you can see elsewhere. They make very good long term decisions most of the time and any mistake they made was not due to selfish reasons.
A lot of people may not like the system, wait till they go to USA or Europe or Taiwan. You will cry paying taxes thru your nose and the govt spends your money on welfare for loafers and illegal immmigrants and other nonsensical ways.
I appreciate that you have experienced by visiting places like Myanmar and Iran and traveling around the world. I have never been to Iran nor Myanmar but I surely hope to esp. Myanmar
The point is governing but I have been staying in Canada for 12 over years and driven all over USA in cars. so I meet with farmers and politicians as friends too < My friend's son just got elected into Parliament in Alberta..ie I congra him too> I also preached in many churches...I am also a good learner and willing to adapt with changes So you now know we are leveled at travelling..
However, politics isn't exactly my cup of tea, though I enjoy the rapport.
I prefer philosophy or something else
Yes you are right the Garmen had specially paid attention to Politics now that election is close, but that is not to say they have not been planning all the times to manipulate people's mind according to their highly exhorted system of Government: What kind of government do you prefer < PAP type: so be it, we have no right to change your inclination> but why do you yourselves change your mind some times ago when considering voting for the opposition Seriously you are doing it because you just read how bad the oppositions are ? as reported? or was it that something else cause you to change ?
Our world is never perfect but someone said this " think not what you can get from your Country but what you can give back..> So many of politicians are labeled as "opposition" and when they enter politics is not for fun. They give back, some gone to jail for their struggle, others their fortune and business, and many had been forced to leave or else you know what will happen Only God know better. the point is
Our Government has been labeled as authoritarian or even totalitarian. That is meaning slowly but definitely we end up as the common masses serving the State's aspiration and promoting the interest of a few rulers - what happened to the poor marginized people "the have-nots" ?
So I too, made my choice, it is an intelligent one, so please don't call us or anyone who VOTE according to our own wishes as the wishes of liars..That is certainly not what you want in your vocab...quote:>You se, more lies from them whiners.
Thank you for attentions, everyone!!
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Does anyone know for exact know how much the entire family earns annually from singapore?
a) How much is Lee Kuan Yew being paid besides his annual salary as a M Minster? What is the value of his benefits package as a Minister example cars, first class airline tickets, pension etc? Since he is also the Chairman of GIC, how much is he getting paid annually for sitting on the GIC board? Pay taxes??
b) Besides the $2million Lee Hsien Loong is paid annually for his Premiership is he also getting another $million for being the Minister of Finance? How much is he getting paid for being the vice-chairman of GIC? what is the value of his benefits package including pension? pay taxes?
c) How much is Ho Ching being paid for running Temasek?
d) Lee Hsien Yang the CEO is rumored to hold large numbers of Singtel shares and also has a fat cat salary approved by the shareholders of Singtel that again being Temasek. It makes me wonder what the Lee familys dinner conversation are like
All the above are public appointments, I dont see any reason why their salaries should be state secrets. The public has every right to know.