M'sia to build cynic bridge
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Quoted fromthe bridge is redundant......
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under common sense or nonsense or what's your own selfish reasons? Money or friendship ? There are over 1000 buses daily moving into Spore to carry workers from across the way. and the old causeway is too narrow and needed a new bridge after more than so many year of waiting.. what you think all Malaysians who come here to work want? Be considerate and think of our neighbors first! -
I say Malaysian government should give more budget to Sarawak and Sabah since they contribute the most in anual revenue but is given the least during the Malaysian Plans. Half of petronas towers $$$ is from these 2 states.. now more being taken to build the bridge! the Millinieum bird, all these white elephants and not doing things by meritocracy. MY needs more capable leaders to lead and manage the countries affairs and budgets! It is already beggining the 90% bumi policy on all high level positions. n Mahatir shouldn't be talking so much since he is already out of the spotlight and allow Badawi to lead the administration to ease the strain in relationships with its neighbours.
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its more than just a new bridge to faciliate commerce activities for the msians (sea ports) or that the 'river' may flow 'better?!!' blar blar blar...
have we also forgotten that during the WWII when the japanese cross the causeway with relative ease towards singapore? yes, i mean from another approach, its about msian national defence towards singapore in the event of the unlikely.
having an S approach towards the end of the johor causeway should prove somewhat difficult for any army to maneuver across the curve.
having the height not only so that it will become another physical obstacle (besides the S curve), it is so that the other side (msian) may have an advantage to whatever it is going to launch. remember singapore is a small country and any heighten structure can be a potent source of forward observation. -
Originally posted by alien2:
i believe a better design will improve the overall image of both countries. whether its redundant or otherwise we all know it. you need not emphasize the number of earning workers from across the causeway to prove your intellect because there are equally huge numbers of the other side of the people who cross the bridge just to eat, drink and be merry....that is to spend in msia.
Quoted from[b]the bridge is redundant......
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under common sense or nonsense or what's your own selfish reasons? Money or friendship ? There are over 1000 buses daily moving into Spore to carry workers from across the way. and the old causeway is too narrow and needed a new bridge after more than so many year of waiting.. what you think all Malaysians who come here to work want? Be considerate and think of our neighbors first![/b]
and it is besides working in msia.
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The east Msians have been exploited by buggers in KL.Originally posted by BadzMaro:I say Malaysian government should give more budget to Sarawak and Sabah since they contribute the most in anual revenue but is given the least during the Malaysian Plans. Half of petronas towers $$$ is from these 2 states.. now more being taken to build the bridge! the Millinieum bird, all these white elephants and not doing things by meritocracy. MY needs more capable leaders to lead and manage the countries affairs and budgets! It is already beggining the 90% bumi policy on all high level positions. n Mahatir shouldn't be talking so much since he is already out of the spotlight and allow Badawi to lead the administration to ease the strain in relationships with its neighbours.
They shld have joined Singapore. -
Do u think Dr.Mahathir is Very very Smart and he is telling the truth.
He inspire his country people to do the smart direction to build the cynic bridge and singapore people now are afraid.
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Well, they also think that it'll be more difficult for us to cross over.... But seriously, who needs the causeway to launch an attack? Johor Straits to not a difficult obstacle for any modern army to cross.Originally posted by tiggersgd:its more than just a new bridge to faciliate commerce activities for the msians (sea ports) or that the 'river' may flow 'better?!!' blar blar blar...
have we also forgotten that during the WWII when the japanese cross the causeway with relative ease towards singapore? yes, i mean from another approach, its about msian national defence towards singapore in the event of the unlikely.
having an S approach towards the end of the johor causeway should prove somewhat difficult for any army to maneuver across the curve.
having the height not only so that it will become another physical obstacle (besides the S curve), it is so that the other side (msian) may have an advantage to whatever it is going to launch. remember singapore is a small country and any heighten structure can be a potent source of forward observation.
http://www.littlespeck.com/content/development/CTrendsDev-060204.htm -
littlespeck has thisinfo to offer:
Crooked bridge
Strategic importance
For Malaysia, includes stopping Singapore tanks from crossing in unlikely event of war. By Seah Chiang Nee
Feb 4, 2006
It is becoming clear that the bridge project is as important to Johor as its water is to Singapore.
Everyone knows that the proposed east-west shipping route south of the Malayan mainland will promote the use of JohorÂ’s Port of Tanjung Pelepas at the expense of PSA (Port of Singapore Authority).
But apparently, that’s not the only reason. John Burton, Financial Times correspondent, said that it is “part of a grander plan to turn the southern state of Johor into a ‘second Singapore’ that would serve as a regional transport hub.”
He added: “Its revival now appears linked to Malaysia's forthcoming five-year economic plan, which is expected to finance several big infrastructure projects that will benefit Johor, including a high-speed rail link with Kuala Lumpur.
Besides spending on ports, roads and railways to develop Johor as a logistics hub to rival Singapore, the plan is expected to include tourist projects to attract visitors who are likely to flock to Singapore once it opens two casino resorts in 2009.”
Burton said analysts believe the half-bridge may be a negotiating ploy to push Singapore on a range of bilateral issues whose resolution has been stalled for years.
Not only is the bridge a crucial deciding factor of JohorÂ’s future, other analysts believe thereÂ’s a defence reason for Malaysia, too.
Since former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew declaring years ago that in an event of MalaysiaÂ’s unilateral cut-off of crucial water supplies to Singapore, Singaporean tanks would move in to defend the RepublicÂ’s survival.
He said If that happened, he would not wait for United Nations to intervene because by then it would be too late.
Unlike the Causeway, the new replacing link will have a drawbridge that can be raised at intervals to allow ships to pass under.
So even a crooked half-bridge would have a defence value for Malaysia. A raised drawbridge could stop the Singaporean tanks from crossing into Johor in the unlikely event of war.
In the latest development, both countries have agreed to negotiate on a full bridge - on the basis of a balance of benefits, so there's a glimmer of hope, yet. -
Brits blew up the causeway to stop invading Japanese. Fast forward 70 years later, will the same tactic make ANY difference with air-lift mechanised armour, artillery and modern bridging technique ?Originally posted by lotus999:littlespeck has thisinfo to offer:
So even a crooked half-bridge would have a defence value for Malaysia. A raised drawbridge could stop the Singaporean tanks from crossing into Johor in the unlikely event of war. -
Mahathir is damn stupid.Originally posted by BlurBlur1:
Do u think Dr.Mahathir is Very very Smart and he is telling the truth.
He inspire his country people to do the smart direction to build the cynic bridge and singapore people now are afraid.
Thats why even the msians don't listen to him now. -
Originally posted by Salman:
The east Malaysian state of Sarawak and Sabah had actually tried to secede from Malaysia and joined up with Singapore during the tumultous period of the 1960 politics.
The east Msians have been exploited by buggers in KL.
They shld have joined Singapore.
Unfortunately, LKY laughed at the idea of a union of '3-S' that is separated by a vast sea that is the territorial waters of Malaysia and Indonesia. .
Originally posted by Salman:
IF - "Mahathir is damn stupid" - at least he was a PM of Malaysia, while your "stupidity" - as reflected in your regular "no brainer. one-liners" - only qualify you to an insignificant mid-level administrative post in some unknown "small company for small minded people" (
Mahathir is damn stupid.
Thats why even the msians don't listen to him now.
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Should anyone in this sgForum take you seriously, and listen to you ? .
Can you be comparable to Mahathir in his stupendous reputation and greatness ? . -
Originally posted by Atobe:
corrections!
IF - "Mahathir is oxymoronic
" - at least he was a PM of Malaysia, while your "stupidity" - as reflected in your regular "no brainer. one-liners" - only qualify you to an insignificant mid-level administrative post in some unknown "small company for small minded people" ( )
Should anyone in this sgForum take you seriously, and listen to you ? .
Can you be comparable to Mahathir in his [b]stupendous reputation and greatness ? .
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Sabah and Sarawak are under developed areas
Anyway, the bridge helps to push away domestic probs in Malaysia -
How can u all miss this photo.
Think of him.
Talk about him.
Sleep with him in ur mind.
Dream of him.
He's always surprise u.He's always telling the truth.
He frighten u.
"We have different opinion.But "basically" we are the "Same."
He never lie.He protect his country people.
History always have his named written. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
I don't think mahathir is great by any measure.
IF - "Mahathir is damn stupid" - at least he was a PM of Malaysia, while your "stupidity" - as reflected in your regular "no brainer. one-liners" - only qualify you to an insignificant mid-level administrative post in some unknown "small company for small minded people" ( )
Should anyone in this sgForum take you seriously, and listen to you ? .
Can you be comparable to Mahathir in his [b]stupendous reputation and greatness ? .
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He made Msia corrupt and the police perpetuators of human rights. -
They are now desperate to build the bridge as PTP is now titled the Slowest growing Seaport in the World and Transshipment hub in the World
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Originally posted by Salman:
By your 'no brainer' standard - can anyone be great ? .
I don't think mahathir is great by any measure.
He made Msia corrupt and the police perpetuators of human rights.
Did Mahathir make "Msia corrupt" or was Malaysia political-social culture the way it was - since its beginning ? .
By your "standard" of seeking "proof" from the postings of others, what is the basis of your statement that Mahathir "made Msia corrupt" ? .
The Malaysian police are the "perpetuators of human rights" ? .
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Hi that is really a handsome old pic of
Our friend from M'sia..
He is everyone's old and NICE buddy
except for those Guys who think and r jealousy dumb
because his brainy stuffs proved to be an exception
an inch more that most glorified PAP men and women who
talks and walks so differently and seldom win my respects! -
How can a corrupt guy be handsome? I think he looks like shits. Mahathir is known worldwide as mr.10%. He didn't get that name for nothin buddy.
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Would it not be surprising if the "10%" title is worth something more than that of a "no brainer, one-liner" ?Originally posted by Salman:How can a corrupt guy be handsome? I think he looks like shits. Mahathir is known worldwide as mr.10%. He didn't get that name for nothin buddy. -
Really? So what does that 10% mean to you?
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Anyone can tell me and figure out what a "curve" half-bridge looks like from above?
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Frankly the causeway to Singapore army is nothing. We don't need it in military sense, because only an idiot would try to send an army using it when the other side will sure to mine it , and put every damn artillery and gun at it.Originally posted by tiggersgd:its more than just a new bridge to faciliate commerce activities for the msians (sea ports) or that the 'river' may flow 'better?!!' blar blar blar...
have we also forgotten that during the WWII when the japanese cross the causeway with relative ease towards singapore? yes, i mean from another approach, its about msian national defence towards singapore in the event of the unlikely.
having an S approach towards the end of the johor causeway should prove somewhat difficult for any army to maneuver across the curve.
having the height not only so that it will become another physical obstacle (besides the S curve), it is so that the other side (msian) may have an advantage to whatever it is going to launch. remember singapore is a small country and any heighten structure can be a potent source of forward observation.
A modern army like singapore alway have opinion of crossing where ever they like, which is alway an element of surprise which defenders will not able to predict where. -
Originally posted by alien2:
will the new bridge be broader than the causeway, can handle the train service and allow water pipe to run across??
Quoted from[b]the bridge is redundant......
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under common sense or nonsense or what's your own selfish reasons? Money or friendship ? There are over 1000 buses daily moving into Spore to carry workers from across the way. and the old causeway is too narrow and needed a new bridge after more than so many year of waiting.. what you think all Malaysians who come here to work want? Be considerate and think of our neighbors first![/b]
with a new bridge that is elevated and much longer, it will be more difficult for those who walk across, think of them first.
use your common sense, don't even know how the bridge look like and want to talk so much.
give money to buy friendship, we don't need this kind of friendship. -
Originally posted by alien2:
the bridge is redundant!!
Quoted from[b]the bridge is redundant......
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under common sense or nonsense or what's your own selfish reasons? Money or friendship ? There are over 1000 buses daily moving into Spore to carry workers from across the way. and the old causeway is too narrow and needed a new bridge after more than so many year of waiting.. what you think all Malaysians who come here to work want? Be considerate and think of our neighbors first![/b]