My vote for the coming elections
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I will vote for anyone who will promise me a less stressful life, affordable healthcare, and no casino.
My life is too stressed, and I will be paying a big sum for my mom's hospitalisation ,,,,, ( 2 months in hospital)........I feel the rich are getting richer....job promotions are reserved for scholars,,,,,,,too many foreigners......
I am ashamed my country has to resort to gambling to earn money........so how to vote? -
If our country didnt have the integrated resorts, our GDP could be greivously hurt. Without the casinos, our property market still be in the slump. Think of the greater good please.
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You mean we are so lousy that only gambling can help us?
You mean we had it all wrong in the past?
You mean there is no hope at all, unless we sell our morals? -
If no casino, surely vote for them. There are other ways to earn money. Anyway, too young to vote. By the time I can vote, there will always be walkovers. Because of LHL. He's in my GRC.
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yea but the bad side of casino is tat once u started to gamble, u cannot stop. if you win abit, u will keep on playing until u lose. than u go ur atm n withdraw more $$ hoping to fight back ur losses. most of the ppl will lose and go borrow their family, fren, loan sharks. those retirees will take their cpf money to gamble and most of the time will lose and they will b left with NOTHING!!!. so their cpf money goes into the government's pocket!!! all our heart earn money also goes into the government's pocket!!!Originally posted by shade343:If our country didnt have the integrated resorts, our GDP could be greivously hurt. Without the casinos, our property market still be in the slump. Think of the greater good please. -
So you will vote for them BECAUSE of the casino ?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:If no casino, surely vote for them. There are other ways to earn money. Anyway, too young to vote. By the time I can vote, there will always be walkovers. Because of LHL. He's in my GRC.
Why so ?
Anyone can build those casinos - surely any political party can build those casinos based on similar conditions ?
You will vote for them so that they can have a controlling share of the casino business and pay their own cronies more Million Dollar salaries ? -
well for me,it is actually like will you want to face any possible consequences if you do not vote for them?
i have the privilege of having my area actually contested in the last election,and guess what there are serial numbers on each person's vote slip,so meaning it is possible to be traced on who you actually voted for?
Not that it has actually affected me as the opposition party candidate in my area is that Dr Chee whom i do not have any liking for,but even if someone in my area actually like him,they may think twice on voting him due to possible traceable voting.... -
The serial numbers on voter slip is a "NON-ISSUE' and has been a 'fear' that the Ruling Party has allowed to fester despite all the assurance given by the Ruling Party and the Opposition Parties.Originally posted by Aveme:well for me,it is actually like will you want to face any possible consequences if you do not vote for them?
i have the privilege of having my area actually contested in the last election,and guess what there are serial numbers on each person's vote slip,so meaning it is possible to be traced on who you actually voted for?
Not that it has actually affected me as the opposition party candidate in my area is that Dr Chee whom i do not have any liking for,but even if someone in my area actually like him,they may think twice on voting him due to possible traceable voting....
Firstly, the "serial number" serves as a "controller' to prevent false ballot paper being stuffed into ballot boxes by any one party.
Secondly, while it can allow both the Ruling Party and the Opposition Party to verify the ballot paper as being 'real' or 'otherwise' - any attempt to trace the voter will require the ballot box being seized from the High Court and from the Election Officials.
Thirdly, even if the above remote situation can be a possibility - what can the Ruling Party do to all the hundred over thousand voters from this constituency ?
Forthly, any punitive action taken against the constituency will probably take the form of removal of communal and social amenities - such as demolishing existing markets and community halls that the constituents have been accustomed to - as had occurred in Seletar Estate, which gave the Opposition strong support and the Ruling Party winning the election by the narrowest margin ever.
Fifthly, the other punitive action that the Ruling Party will take is to dilute the heavily influenced Opposition supporters in any single constituency by redrawing the election boundary, and eliminating your ward or constituency altogether - dividing and merging your constituents to meld into other wards or constituency that favor the Ruling Party.
It is by succumbing to such unnecessary fear of the "Serial Numbers" that have got us to be enslaved to the arrogant rule of the present Ruling Political Party.
If others have made sacrifices to stand up and be counted for the sake of our future, can we not make a little sacrifice by NOT SUBMITTING to the fear of some 'digits' printed at the back of the voting slip - which had its original objective of preventing fraud in the election process ? -
I'm looking forward the debat speechs, but seem like no good Opposition Party aorund.....
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promise only mah... politicians say say you also believe....
if only promise... the same party will always win loh -
Me old enuff carry gun defend country,but cannot vote yet,,,
Si mi logic?? -
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Fascist logic.Originally posted by Chelzea:Me old enuff carry gun defend country,but cannot vote yet,,,
Si mi logic??
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well said atobe.
indeed we needless fear about this serial nos thing that we hear say long ago.
and i can reassure you that i still fine now.
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Well why then a serial number to authenticate the voting slip?Surely something like a symbol/stamp/special type of paper used for the voting slip would be better?What is so special about serial numbers that make it the only choice for authentication?Originally posted by Atobe:The serial numbers on voter slip is a "NON-ISSUE' and has been a 'fear' that the Ruling Party has allowed to fester despite all the assurance given by the Ruling Party and the Opposition Parties.
Firstly, the "serial number" serves as a "controller' to prevent false ballot paper being stuffed into ballot boxes by any one party.
Secondly, while it can allow both the Ruling Party and the Opposition Party to verify the ballot paper as being 'real' or 'otherwise' - any attempt to trace the voter will require the ballot box being seized from the High Court and from the Election Officials.
Thirdly, even if the above remote situation can be a possibility - what can the Ruling Party do to all the hundred over thousand voters from this constituency ?
Forthly, any punitive action taken against the constituency will probably take the form of removal of communal and social amenities - such as demolishing existing markets and community halls that the constituents have been accustomed to - as had occurred in Seletar Estate, which gave the Opposition strong support and the Ruling Party winning the election by the narrowest margin ever.
Fifthly, the other punitive action that the Ruling Party will take is to dilute the heavily influenced Opposition supporters in any single constituency by redrawing the election boundary, and eliminating your ward or constituency altogether - dividing and merging your constituents to meld into other wards or constituency that favor the Ruling Party.
It is by succumbing to such unnecessary fear of the "Serial Numbers" that have got us to be enslaved to the arrogant rule of the present Ruling Political Party.
If others have made sacrifices to stand up and be counted for the sake of our future, can we not make a little sacrifice by NOT SUBMITTING to the fear of some 'digits' printed at the back of the voting slip - which had its original objective of preventing fraud in the election process ?
And i and the majority of voters are not as well informed as you are on the legality of such issue,so the fear is that you will have a blackmark somewhere in some files held by the govt and may affect your chances later in getting a flat or other stuff that have to go thru the govt.
So unless there is really some credible oppostion party whom the people really think can take over from PAP,you can be sure that people will err on the side of caution and not risk any possible consequences. -
i dont think the casino initiative will work. a lot of casino operators have pulled out frm the tenders rite??
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I say no casino then vote for them. I really cannot imagine having other political parties to lead us. Bad as my reply is, but I really feel insecure.Originally posted by Atobe:So you will vote for them BECAUSE of the casino ?
Why so ?
Anyone can build those casinos - surely any political party can build those casinos based on similar conditions ?
You will vote for them so that they can have a controlling share of the casino business and pay their own cronies more Million Dollar salaries ? -
Although I still can't vote at my age, but I can feel the same way as you.Originally posted by Dr Who:I will vote for anyone who will promise me a less stressful life, affordable healthcare, and no casino.
My life is too stressed, and I will be paying a big sum for my mom's hospitalisation ,,,,, ( 2 months in hospital)........I feel the rich are getting richer....job promotions are reserved for scholars,,,,,,,too many foreigners......
I am ashamed my country has to resort to gambling to earn money........so how to vote? -
My Opinion:
I won't vote for the SDP
The Chairman, Mr Chee Soon Juan is spoiling the image of Singapore and not doing any good for Singapore.
He just complain about Singapore problems to other countries -
Agree.Originally posted by gorby107:My Opinion:
I won't vote for the SDP
The Chairman, Mr Chee Soon Juan is spoiling the image of Singapore and not doing any good for Singapore.
He just complain about Singapore problems to other countries -
Originally posted by Aveme:
Irregardless of any type of paper - special or not / symbol / stamp / to be placed on the Voting Slip - there is no guarantee that the same cannot be obtained by someone due to a leak in security.
Well why then a serial number to authenticate the voting slip?Surely something like a symbol/stamp/special type of paper used for the voting slip would be better?What is so special about serial numbers that make it the only choice for authentication?
And i and the majority of voters are not as well informed as you are on the legality of such issue,so the fear is that you will have a blackmark somewhere in some files held by the govt and may affect your chances later in getting a flat or other stuff that have to go thru the govt.
So unless there is really some credible oppostion party whom the people really think can take over from PAP,you can be sure that people will err on the side of caution and not risk any possible consequences.
Serial Numbers recorded according to the voters' particulars is the surest way of preventing fraud at the ballot box.
The fear of fraud is surely felt by the Ruling Party - as much as the Opposition Party fear that they have to design a foolproof system that will prevent fraud.
If the design of the voting slip with serial numbers could instill doubt to the confidentiality of the vote, this will be an added bonus that was never intended in the first instance.
The Ruling Party will gladly let this fear to fester, so that all who fear about their vote being known, will quietly placed a vote for the Ruling Political Party without too much force or cajoling being needed.
We owe it to ourselves to ignore the fear towards the serial number behind the voting slip, so as to ensure that a clear message will be given to the Ruling Party that they cannot ride rough shod over Singaporeans. -
Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
The present situation of your imagination being unable to accept having other political parties to lead us - can only confirm the darkest fear that after FORTY YEARS of controlling all Life in Singapore, it has resulted in a successful operation to psychological enslave the Singapore Citizens to a common propaganda that feed on the fear of Citizens towards the unknown.
I say no casino then vote for them. I really cannot imagine having other political parties to lead us. Bad as my reply is, but I really feel insecure.
You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.
Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)
The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one.
Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915) -
Originally posted by gorby107:
Firstly, he is not the Chairman, but the Secretary-General of the SDP.
My Opinion:
I won't vote for the SDP
The Chairman, Mr Chee Soon Juan is spoiling the image of Singapore and not doing any good for Singapore.
He just complain about Singapore problems to other countries
Do we need CSJ to spoil the image of Singapore when the policies of the Singapore Government a.k.a the Ruling Political Party has created so much bad publicity for Singapore and Singaporeans.
Can CSJ make any impact as a single individual, or does international news agency provide a bigger luxuy
Over the last forty years, bad publcity towards the Singapore Government a.k.a the Ruling Political Party has been given by the Internation Press for the bad decisions that were made - arresting of social workers from the Catholic Church; Bankrupting Opposition Party members; White Elephants receiving Police Attention; any more that has slipped away ? -
If there is a security leak in the first place,serial number authentification could also be tampered with?For me it does seems so that the voting slip is designed specifically to introduce fear even if they try their best to tell us it is not.Originally posted by Atobe:Irregardless of any type of paper - special or not / symbol / stamp / to be placed on the Voting Slip - there is no guarantee that the same cannot be obtained by someone due to a leak in security.
Serial Numbers recorded according to the voters' particulars is the surest way of preventing fraud at the ballot box.
The fear of fraud is surely felt by the Ruling Party - as much as the Opposition Party fear that they have to design a foolproof system that will prevent fraud.
If the design of the voting slip with serial numbers could instill doubt to the confidentiality of the vote, this will be an added bonus that was never intended in the first instance.
The Ruling Party will gladly let this fear to fester, so that all who fear about their vote being known, will quietly placed a vote for the Ruling Political Party without too much force or cajoling being needed.
We owe it to ourselves to ignore the fear towards the serial number behind the voting slip, so as to ensure that a clear message will be given to the Ruling Party that they cannot ride rough shod over Singaporeans.
And well supposedly even if we can ignore the fear factor,it will still need a very credible opposition party for people to want to vote the other way.Ignoring fear does not means one will be irrational.Having oppostion party candidates like this Dr Chee who only know how to complain while not coming up with any good solutions and also trying to make singapore look bad by complaining to foreign parties does not in the end give much choice for voters to vote anyway? For me,i will definately vote for this present goverment even if i may not have a positive impression of them than to vote for some clown