Jobless Rate Is Too Low, Only 2.5%
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This will affect the competitiveness of local industries because of the shortage of labour!
PAP is truely at fault this time and LKY is personally responsible.
This is the last straw! There is only so much that the whiners can tolerate!
Lets vote opposition this time! -
what talking you?
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where the hell u pluck the figure from??
u still in dreamland huh -
Kenashi did not read front page of ST and he dare to ask where did the figures come from.
Thats the whoile problem with all these spoilt whiners. They have no idea of what is happening in singapore, they are devoid of reality, they love to spin Singapore into their own private views, they want to create reality based on their biased views and they are a bunch of arrogant liars that insist that everyone disagrees with them or be banned from the forum. -
it was annouced yesterday.Originally posted by Kenashi:where the hell u pluck the figure from??
u still in dreamland huh
Honestly I dont quite understand why is salman complaining. If we keep reading news about illegal immigrant trying to sneak into singapore, that means there is no problem with supply of cheap labor. -
talk about arrogant, no one can beat u lahOriginally posted by Salman:Kenashi did not read front page of ST and he dare to ask where did the figures come from.
Thats the whoile problem with all these spoilt whiners. They have no idea of what is happening in singapore, they are devoid of reality, they love to spin Singapore into their own private views, they want to create reality based on their biased views and they are a bunch of arrogant liars that insist that everyone disagrees with them or be banned from the forum.
no time to read, i'm too busy
i don't believe the jobless rate is at 2.5% no matter what they said -
Oh yes, fight fight fight.
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ding ding dingOriginally posted by ditzy:Oh yes, fight fight fight.
Round 1
ditzy vs Salman
Fight!!
Me go out of the ring n eat popcorn -
Does the MOM jobless figure include:-
(1) Long-unemployed exceeding 6 months, 12 months, 24 months etc who were once employed but who are still searching for jobs and cannot find jobs?
(2) Self-employed doing odd jobs or some lowly-paid part-time jobs.
If MOM unemployed figure does not include (1) and/or (2) in its jobless count, isn't it a case of statistic being used to give good presentation?
So citizens and the professors who were accused of misquotes of MOM figures are also deemed confused by talking about the no. of actual or presumed unemployed.
Can MOM check up the dictionary and enlighten the public in what he is talking about?
If (1) and (2) are excluded wholely or partly from jobless count, then the MOM jobless should not be called jobless but Current Unemployed (CU) in order not to NKF or mislead the public. -
Thats why I say you are in denial devoid of reality.Originally posted by Kenashi:talk about arrogant, no one can beat u lah
no time to read, i'm too busy
i don't believe the jobless rate is at 2.5% no matter what they said -
now u know what a whiner is all aboutOriginally posted by Gazelle:it was annouced yesterday.
Honestly I dont quite understand why is salman complaining. If we keep reading news about illegal immigrant trying to sneak into singapore, that means there is no problem with supply of cheap labor.
too low complain
too high oso complain
they live just to whine their lives away -
15% including old folks, children, housewife
My estimated % agreeable? -
whine whine whineOriginally posted by Salman:Thats why I say you are in denial devoid of reality. -
Good point.Originally posted by robertteh:Does the jobless figure include:-
(1) Long-unemployed exceeding 6 months, 12 months, 24 months etc who were once employed but who are still searching for jobs and cannot find jobs?
(2) Self-employed doing odd jobs or some lowly-paid part-time jobs.
If MOM unemployed figure does not include (1) and/or (2) in its jobless count, isn't it a case of statistic being used to give good presentation?
So citizens and the professors who were accused of misquotes of MOM figures are also deemed confused by talking about the no. of actual or presumed unemployed.
Can MOM check up the dictionary and enlighten the public in what he is talking about?
If (1) and (2) are excluded wholely or partly from jobless count, then the MOM jobless should not be called jobless but Current Unemployed (CU) in order not to NKF or mislead the public.
Perhaps you shld go find out and tell it to us.
What in your view would then be a good definition of unemployed and why? -
Those not contributing CPF "NOW" should be considered jobless
Possible anyone get that figure from CPF? 
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Go read some of the postings on the unemployment rate in YP.
Apparently, the unemployment rate fell because the MOM included foreign workers into the labour force thereby creating a larger labour force (and hence smaller unemployment figure).
Talk about manipulating the data to suit your needs. -
Guess no one bothered to read up yesterday and this morning's paper.
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i only read chinese newspaperOriginally posted by ditzy:Guess no one bothered to read up yesterday and this morning's paper. -
Unaudited figures no pakay. -
Quite simply, figures are there to be manipulated to anyone's benefit.
They are seldom accompanied by initial conditions, market assumptions, or control indicators for reference purposes. There is no way to determine the accuracy of the results however you front it.
The figures are always judged from one's POINT OF VIEW. -
only 'smart' people like you believes everything that the govt says.Originally posted by Salman:Thats why I say you are in denial devoid of reality.
know the meaning of the word propaganda? -
hmm...
they should consider educated people doing odd jobs as a case of wasting talent
sometimes statistics dont show us the inside story
perhaps a survey should be done on school graduates to see if the above is true -
now you are talking rubbish because you know your argument is weak.Originally posted by Salman:Good point.
Perhaps you shld go find out and tell it to us.
What in your view would then be a good definition of unemployed and why? -
Even many employed people are wasted talent, you find them all over the world.Originally posted by abao:hmm...
they should consider educated people doing odd jobs as a case of wasting talent
sometimes statistics dont show us the inside story
perhaps a survey should be done on school graduates to see if the above is true
Many working people will also consider themnselves wasted talent. So how do we account for that? Is the world using this as a measure? Why not? -
How is my argument weak? Please explain so people can understand you.Originally posted by dragg:now you are talking rubbish because you know your argument is weak.