In her 40s, back with a degree - but no job
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trying to pull my leg again?
sorry i have already edited the text.
i mean to say i take the least MCs at my former office. -
Originally posted by ShutterBug:Those of you who are currently gainfully employed and young, don't be too ready with a snappy and smart answer or statement. The day will come when you reach 40, and you lose the cushy job you are so comfy and familiar with.
Yes, no one owes anyone a living, but if medical costs is the main reason employers are not hiring older people, then it's the government's fault. They should reduce medical costs for older people who MUST work to support themselves.
Everybody ages, so don't be snappy with comments.
Fully agree!! The way I see the over 40s around me getting out of job, I making preparation for myself. In the meantime, I am making those younger than me prove that they can indeed run faster, and if running fast means working smarter. And you have to give up some values, like loyalty, which I think companies these days do not deserve.Originally posted by ShutterBug:In short; I suggest that the government buck up and make hiring older workers for employers less of a financial strain, by subsidizing thei medicals.
At the rate babies are produced these days, I'd say Singapore is going to be choked full of old folks in the decades to come!
An article in Lianhe Zhaobao highlighted that in the near future, the majority votes are in the hands of the aged citizens. Hope this is a good reminder to the government. -
my fruit seller has phd in maths..
must be workin to pay off the student loan -
My friend pursuing his phd say he scared to work thats why he continue studying. Ask him what he intends to do after his phd, he say dunno.
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let me guess .... NS training right ? ...Originally posted by SBS9828X:i no.1 in getting mc
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the govt seems to be more interested in engaging the new generation.Originally posted by sgdiehard:Fully agree!! The way I see the over 40s around me getting out of job, I making preparation for myself. In the meantime, I am making those younger than me prove that they can indeed run faster, and if running fast means working smarter. And you have to give up some values, like loyalty, which I think companies these days do not deserve.
An article in Lianhe Zhaobao highlighted that in the near future, the majority votes are in the hands of the aged citizens. Hope this is a good reminder to the government. -
Wrong.Originally posted by dragg:the govt seems to be more interested in engaging the new generation.
They just want to make more money.
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i think the lady need to get in line with reality of the working world and not use a degree as an excuse to get job. Relevant industryand non relevant degree holders are plentiful. not to mention those with ordinary MBA.
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Look, even if she has a PhD, at 40 she'll still be hard put to land a job anywhere.
Basically, we have a sick economy here. Employers are fearful of older workers because of HIGH MEDICAL COSTS!!!
So, watch out, all you out there. Age will do you in, if our government doesn't do something effective about it. -
Fully agree.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Look, even if she has a PhD, at 40 she'll still be hard put to land a job anywhere.
Basically, we have a sick economy here. Employers are fearful of older workers because of HIGH MEDICAL COSTS!!!
So, watch out, all you out there. Age will do you in, if our government doesn't do something effective about it. -
The work market is getting better n maybe the lady is trying to get work she liked.Originally posted by AF2005:i think the lady need to get in line with reality of the working world and not use a degree as an excuse to get job. Relevant industryand non relevant degree holders are plentiful. not to mention those with ordinary MBA.
Job market is very competitive.
Employer is fearful overqualified employees might niot stayed long in a work. -
what the purpose for the uni studies at age 40s? personal achievement or better career prospect? if it latter, then she ought to know at that age without relevant working experience but a degree aint gona take you far.
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Most of us will probably have some experience by the time we hit the 40s. It is rare for someone to have no experience in any fields and just have a degree (I expect a Master or more). Excluding learning disabilities, this is rare.Originally posted by reyes:what the purpose for the uni studies at age 40s? personal achievement or better career prospect? if it latter, then she ought to know at that age without relevant working experience but a degree aint gona take you far. -
from st forum.
Blow the whistle on discrimination against older workers
I REFER to the letter, 'In her 40s, back with a degree - but no job' (ST, Feb 3), by Ms Sharon Lee Soh Leng.
Blow the whistle on discrimination against older workers
It is one of those sad stories that make people sometimes lose faith in the prevailing hiring practices and workplace accreditation systems.
It is ironic that some companies and organisations spend so much money and effort on getting recognised for workplace excellence - for example through achieving the People's Developer Standard, and by coaching and developing staff to reach greater professional heights -but do not act consistently upon their beliefs when it comes to hiring older workers who have taken up the Government's challenge to upgrade their skills. The myth that younger employees are better, healthier and more energetic must be debunked. There are scores of younger workers who cannot take the heat and job-hop all too often.
What the older workers lose out in terms of age, they more than make up in experience, character and maturity of thought.
To improve herself, Ms Lee would, most probably, have had to leave the security of her previous job, pluck herself from a familiar environment and be deprived of the warmth and smiles of loved ones. Despite all these, she triumphed and this speaks of the tenacity, courage, resilience and passion in her.
To live a fulfilling life without regrets, one must follow the heart, dare to dream and be willing to embark on the journey of self-renewal and unlimited possibilities. I recall how I felt encouraged when listening to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong make his inaugural National Day Rally speech at the NUS University Cultural Centre two years ago. To paraphrase from memory, he said the Government would give us wings so that we might fly, be exposed to the world, blossom, and then come back enriched and contribute to Singapore.
Yet it seems to me that when some of us like Ms Lee fly back to make our contributions, we become disillusioned and have our wings clipped and dreams dashed.
Our society cannot move forward if employment practices limit human potential. I urge the authorities to tighten the process of monitoring organisations that do not adhere to the guidelines spelt out in the code of responsible employment practices which advocate that staff should be treated fairly and be recruited based on skills, experience and capability.
The whistle must be blown on companies that discriminate, based on age or otherwise, and the appropriate penalty meted out.
Lena Soh Kwee Kim (Ms) -
I would say, well said, to Ms Lena Soh Kwee Kim.
But are they listening? Will our government do SOMETHING about it?
Or let the problem stew until it "boils-over"?
Do note that in 20 years time, there will be so much more older Singaporeans based on todays birth rates. And where do they turn to in making a living?
Even if you have children, your children may be up to their necks in trying to make a living to say nothing of taking care of you as aged parents. Of course, this statement I make, excludes those born with silver or gold spoons. -
if you have a job cling to it.
only those who lose their jobs will have a hard time looking for one when they past 40.