singapore's future
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what do yoiu think will be singapore's future?
more and more ppl migrate elsewhere, ultimately leaving the country without any people?
or singapore becoming even more dynamic, more important for world? e.g. better than hong kong or worse than singapore of 1819?
new competition from around the world do you think singapore can make it? how far can it make it? -
Blue part: If there's in, there's always out. People migrate elsewhere, but elsewhere people migrate here.Originally posted by protonhybrid:what do yoiu think will be singapore's future?
more and more ppl migrate elsewhere, ultimately leaving the country without any people?
or singapore becoming even more dynamic, more important for world? e.g. better than hong kong or worse than singapore of 1819?
new competition from around the world do you think singapore can make it? how far can it make it?
I feel that unless major changes are made to health and education systems, we will be seeing more people migrating out of Singapore. First of all, these two systems cost a lot. And they are known to make people bankrupt. Just health alone can do the job, not to mention education. For health, I wouldn't say free healthcare to the extent like NHS. But I would say more subsidies to help out. The current system is being improved on, but we still have to pay a lot.
For education, changes have be made to help the ITE and Polytechnic students. They have lesser chance of entering local universities and we forced them out of Singapore to study. Some of them might be even staying there for good, not a good idea since Singapore's main resource is humans. Despite a chance in policy, lots of them still can't make it. Local universities fees are also very expensive. The recent changes to commercialize them doesn't help. -
Don't worry my friend, Singapore will make it if we make the necessary mindset change. The govt will see to it.
There are 500 million people in this resource rich region, how can we not make it? -
In time, there'd probably be 50% mix of locals and foreigners here. If things don't improve, Singapore will largely be populated by foreigners.
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Maybe the irony of it all will be these foreigners who eventually take up citizenship here will be the ones who will vote out the incumbent party.Originally posted by ShutterBug:In time, there'd probably be 50% mix of locals and foreigners here. If things don't improve, Singapore will largely be populated by foreigners.
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Originally posted by Salman:
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Don't worry my friend, Singapore will make it if we make the necessary mindset change. The govt will see to it.
There are 500 million people in this resource rich region, how can we not make it?
"500 million people LESS the 'whiners' with brains, and the SINGLE 'no-brainer' whiner. "
You are not PAPa's favorite PAPpy - not with your poor attitude towards the MUSLIMS that form a significant part of the 500 MILLION in this resource rich region. .
Can you so confidently speak for PAPa ? .
Can "the govt see to it" ? .
Changing the mindset of a "no brainer" is simple - as there is only a 'void' space in the cranium; but too big a carvenous void can be costly for "the govt to see to it" - as it becomes too costly to fill that carvenous void with any material available. .
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how many people migrated in a year?
I remember only few thousands a year.
What a big deal??
2.Do u know every year 5,000 to 10,000 become citizens of Sg.
Now there are 300,000 PR here.
Ppl come and go are normal
u guys looks too gray. -
Yesiree.Originally posted by lionnoisy:how many people migrated in a year?
I remember only few thousands a year.
What a big deal??
2.Do u know every year 5,000 to 10,000 become citizens of Sg.
Now there are 300,000 PR here.
Ppl come and go are normal
u guys looks too gray.
One day, PRs will form the dominant portion of the population.
They will be calling the shots in terms of the direction the country is heading. -
Singapore only have a very short history, therefore in 40 years time there will be another new generation of born in singapore Singaporeans. and in 20 years time, we are likely to see more angmoh kids speaking singlish and hokkien, and chinese speaking with english slang etc.Originally posted by charlize:Yesiree.
One day, PRs will form the dominant portion of the population.
They will be calling the shots in terms of the direction the country is heading. -
No matter what happens, Singapore will still be the favourite country/place in South East Asia. Many people living in this region are attracted to Singapore. Especially the Indonesians. With people like them putting their wealth in Singapore, Singapore will surely "maju". No doubt about that.
Migration wise, people come and go. Thats the way of life. In fact, people started moving around since ancient times.... Therefore, this is nothing new.
But comparing with Hong Kong, Singapore CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER outbeat HK. Hong Kong is like a "gateway" to China for many foreign investors and the recent results showed that Hong Kong is ranked No.1 as the World's Freest Economy whereas Singapore is a couple of No. below that. And on top of that, the lifestyle in Hong Kong is much better than compared to Singapore. Eg, the food is hell lot of better in HK... Bigger market=more business opportunities etc. -
we will be very much like Japan where all the young people are overseas and only old people are left in Singapore.
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I have heard of a few cases of Singaporeans migrating overseas and then come back again.Originally posted by free thinker:No matter what happens, Singapore will still be the favourite country/place in South East Asia. Many people living in this region are attracted to Singapore. Especially the Indonesians. With people like them putting their wealth in Singapore, Singapore will surely "maju". No doubt about that.
Migration wise, people come and go. Thats the way of life. In fact, people started moving around since ancient times.... Therefore, this is nothing new.
But comparing with Hong Kong, Singapore CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER outbeat HK. Hong Kong is like a "gateway" to China for many foreign investors and the recent results showed that Hong Kong is ranked No.1 as the World's Freest Economy whereas Singapore is a couple of No. below that. And on top of that, the lifestyle in Hong Kong is much better than compared to Singapore. Eg, the food is hell lot of better in HK... Bigger market=more business opportunities etc. -
Hmm,but den if everybody has a degree den wads e big dealOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Blue part: If there's in, there's always out. People migrate elsewhere, but elsewhere people migrate here.
I feel that unless major changes are made to health and education systems, we will be seeing more people migrating out of Singapore. First of all, these two systems cost a lot. And they are known to make people bankrupt. Just health alone can do the job, not to mention education. For health, I wouldn't say free healthcare to the extent like NHS. But I would say more subsidies to help out. The current system is being improved on, but we still have to pay a lot.
For education, changes have be made to help the ITE and Polytechnic students. They have lesser chance of entering local universities and we forced them out of Singapore to study. Some of them might be even staying there for good, not a good idea since Singapore's main resource is humans. Despite a chance in policy, lots of them still can't make it. Local universities fees are also very expensive. The recent changes to commercialize them doesn't help. No value liao,e degree... 
Healthcare part shld be implemented. -
As foreign talent?Originally posted by Gazelle:I have heard of a few cases of Singaporeans migrating overseas and then come back again. -
Haaah ahahahaa!Originally posted by charlize:Maybe the irony of it all will be these foreigners who eventually take up citizenship here will be the ones who will vote out the incumbent party.
That's a hilarious probability!
heheheheee.... -
Yes indeed, Singapore is safe, clean, and well structured. BUT, life's becoming tougher, and worse, life becomes uncertain in old age!Originally posted by free thinker:No matter what happens, Singapore will still be the favourite country/place in South East Asia. Many people living in this region are attracted to Singapore. Especially the Indonesians. With people like them putting their wealth in Singapore, Singapore will surely "maju". No doubt about that.
Migration wise, people come and go. Thats the way of life. In fact, people started moving around since ancient times.... Therefore, this is nothing new.
But comparing with Hong Kong, Singapore CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER outbeat HK. Hong Kong is like a "gateway" to China for many foreign investors and the recent results showed that Hong Kong is ranked No.1 as the World's Freest Economy whereas Singapore is a couple of No. below that. And on top of that, the lifestyle in Hong Kong is much better than compared to Singapore. Eg, the food is hell lot of better in HK... Bigger market=more business opportunities etc.
You're only valid while you're young. -
What about the majority?Originally posted by Gazelle:I have heard of a few cases of Singaporeans migrating overseas and then come back again. -
majority is still in singaporeOriginally posted by will4:What about the majority? -
I meant those local went to immigrate to Australia. I heard some sucessful in their career.Originally posted by Gazelle:majority is still in singapore
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Hong Kong people smarter. They tend to think much further ahead of Singaporean. They have a bigger appetite to risk taking.Originally posted by free thinker:No matter what happens, Singapore will still be the favourite country/place in South East Asia. Many people living in this region are attracted to Singapore. Especially the Indonesians. With people like them putting their wealth in Singapore, Singapore will surely "maju". No doubt about that.
Migration wise, people come and go. Thats the way of life. In fact, people started moving around since ancient times.... Therefore, this is nothing new.
But comparing with Hong Kong, Singapore CAN NEVER and WILL NEVER outbeat HK. Hong Kong is like a "gateway" to China for many foreign investors and the recent results showed that Hong Kong is ranked No.1 as the World's Freest Economy whereas Singapore is a couple of No. below that. And on top of that, the lifestyle in Hong Kong is much better than compared to Singapore. Eg, the food is hell lot of better in HK... Bigger market=more business opportunities etc.
Look at the Silicon Valley, the engineer tend to be more from Taiwan or
Hong Kong. -
Can't be helped.Originally posted by will4:Hong Kong people smarter. They tend to think much further ahead of Singaporean. They have a bigger appetite to risk taking.
Look at the Silicon Valley, the engineer tend to be more from Taiwan or
Hong Kong.
The Singapore educational, social and political system ensures that people don't take risk.
Singapore has a long way to go before even being compared to the HK people. -
I agreed on this point n HK movie also drama series better than local.Originally posted by charlize:Can't be helped.
The Singapore educational, social and political system ensures that people don't take risk.
Singapore has a long way to go before even being compared to the HK people.
Look at Jacky Chan also well known in other country. -
HK people thinking different from local. Local tend to complain over small thing.Originally posted by charlize:Can't be helped.
The Singapore educational, social and political system ensures that people don't take risk.
Singapore has a long way to go before even being compared to the HK people.
There is an article they complained the Australian not hardworking.
If they also hardworking, no chance to relax. -
Perhaps the degree can be a more specialized one? Like in Australia, instead of Degree in Computer Science, they have a degree in IT (Networking). Computer Science is broad, but IT (Networking) is specific.Originally posted by Chelzea:Hmm,but den if everybody has a degree den wads e big deal No value liao,e degree... Healthcare part shld be implemented. -
Its good thing Singaporeans only complain. Should we be like the Hong Kongers, we will demostrate and protest.Originally posted by will4:HK people thinking different from local. Local tend to complain over small thing.
There is an article they complained the Australian not hardworking.
If they also hardworking, no chance to relax.
Complaining in fact contributes to political stability.