the way students dress in uniform when outside school
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so wad do u consider as dress properly.....
me as a student i understand dat students nowadays do not like to tuck in their uniform, but however dey "fold" it in or juz attached a drawstring to the bottom of their shirt or blouse n make it seems to like tuck in......but den i dun reallie dunerstand y some schools dey dun allow it n insist dat students muz tuck in their shirt, when folding in or attaching a a drawstring will also make the student look neat or even dressed smarter...... -
whats your point here?
is it to show us how noble you are that you wear your school uniform proudly?
or just to make a point that school should do away with school inform since so many kids dun wear it proudly? -
whats your point here?
is it to show us how noble you are that you wear your school uniform proudly?
or just to make a point that school should do away with school inform since so many kids dun wear it proudly?
firstly, its nt noble to wear uniform proudly cos its wad all students shld do in the 1st place...theres nothing for me to show off cos many others also do the same...
my main pt is tat if u dun wear ur uniform smrtly, then dun tell ppl u r proud of ur sch or sch uniform...sounds so hypocritical...i am nt devaluing gd grades...i am also nt saying tat smart uniform dressing is the onli way to show a person's character. we noe tat ppl always look at outward appearance. so looking at the uniform dressing is a very common thing. like i said, members of the public wun noe wad kind of person u actually r since they dunno u. but ur uniform which they can see clearly wil tend to give them a certain impression abt u n ur school's discipline. -
is it the school or the individual's result that makes a student proud?
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my point is to show dat different pple has different view points abt "dressing" properly.......Originally posted by digicharat:whats your point here?
is it to show us how noble you are that you wear your school uniform proudly?
or just to make a point that school should do away with school inform since so many kids dun wear it proudly? -
and my point is that if u are gonna enforce so harshly on outer apperance than the next generation will depend on this as their tool for judging other people's characters! imo dats wrong.
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oh man. and i am sure really meant it when they taught us to not judge a book by its cover
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like it or not, we gotta admit that sloppy uni dressing is becoming a fashion. tucking out of shirts, baggy pants, short skirts combined with fancy bags, accessories and shoes are how students getting rid of the dull schoolboys schoolgirls look. the way how students dress is how they differentiate from other students. as the "smart and neat" dressing do not appeal to them, they turn to sloppy dressing. well, if it's so, why not? however, if they put up an ah beng ah lian appearance, tt's another matter. firstly, does sloppy dressing really protray a bad image of the student? personally, i dont think so. to me, it's just another way of dressing, nth else. secondly, if students like how they dress, their self-confidence will grow and when self-confidence grows, the students can accomplished many things. u may laugh, but this is true, apply this to urself and see. lastly, sloppy dressing is and does not cause any social problems, so why are u complaining?
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hihi, i think u miss the point.. what despondent is trying to say, is thatOriginally posted by stellazio:why should u let ur dressing define u?
does this means that all succesful business men have to wear suits??
bill gates doesn't seem to like wearing suits..but do people comment on his dressing??
seriously why bother about how others think of us?
if there's no school uniform, den it doesn't matter, but if there is, wear it "properly".. in fact the uniform is not just simply the set of clothes but the way it's worn as well.. if each was t wear it his style, where's the uniformity?
u ask if all business men have to wear suits?.. well definitely not. (just like if there's no rule saying muz wear uniform, u dun have to.)
but if u were to wear a suit, wear it properly,
dun leave 5 buttons unbuttoned, tie hanging loosely, swung to one side of the neck, one sleeve rolled up, the other isn't..
the pants, one leg roll up, the other isn't...
what despondent's trying to say, is if biz men will to wear suit dis way, might as well stick to something casual -
actually what I think is damn funny is when I look at the sec sch kids today, and see them walk around with their hair not tied up, shirt poofed out, skirt folded at the waist to make it shorter, pants pulled down to the hips etc etc
and they think they look cool...
but actually 10 years ago we all dress like that liao loh...... no difference also. -
yup thanx alot mastdfj....tats wad i been trying to say...well, partially...its either u wear it n wear it propery or dun wear at all...full casual or full cormal definitely looks betta than half here half there
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Tell me which pharse do adults say and follow ...Originally posted by fishyang:oh man. and i am sure really meant it when they taught us to not judge a book by its cover
So, by saying this, another pharse is "a leopard doesn't change its spots"
So, should we follow it too, and not give others another chance?
I hope to hear from another POV...
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Mirrors, mirrors.Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:actually what I think is damn funny is when I look at the sec sch kids today, and see them walk around with their hair not tied up, shirt poofed out, skirt folded at the waist to make it shorter, pants pulled down to the hips etc etc
and they think they look cool...
but actually 10 years ago we all dress like that liao loh...... no difference also.
I was wearing my baggy pants in the 90s too.Oh how the pant legs scuffed the floor and how my oversized shirt was always hanging out the back.
No prizes for guessing which school.
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Also, what is an image of a good student? SO what if they dress slopply. Does that mean a good result student cannot have other dress sense. This is what is wrong with society i think, all too often people just look on the surface of stuff, ok here is a clean look smart looking person, handsome too and judge the person as good thou he may be a pevert or serial killer. A person who dress sloppily maybe be a genius. I feel that society placed too much emphasis on dress. If there is no such constraints, so much more resources can be saved if we don't need to wear tie or jacket, or leather shoes. Just what we feel comfortable in.
Very well said...I think uniforms must be the lamest invention ever. Uniforms does not make us look like students at all...it make us look like nerds. People from the university does not wear uniform, but generally, they look like students and not nerds in every way to me.
Uniform serves no purposes. The same school that teaches us that we should not judge other people by their physical appearances or dressing told us that we should try to look smart and presentable to the society so that we have a higher chance of leaving a good impression and have a higher chance of being accepted to whatever organisation we may apply for.
And I don't think wearing the school uniform sloppishly reflects badly of the school, because at least sloppish uniform looks nicer that uniform tucked ALL THE WAY IN!!!
Don't laugh...my secondary school did make us tuck our uniform all the way in...in a sense all of us looked like retards as a result.
Besides...do we really represent the school when we don't even belong to the school at all? It is the school's 'tai ji' if their reputation is tarnish, not ours...student will be staying in that school not for long anyway...... -
to ruixiangz...
i agree wif u cos u r the bo chap kind n wun say u r proud of ur sch or uniform...i am toking abt those who claim to be proud of their sch n uniform...some of them makes such claims but dun show it at all...man always judge by appearance...tats a fact of life...so we tend to judge base on wad we see...n a sloppy uniform dun show to ppl tat u r proud of ur sch n uniform -
actually it's interesting.. I once asked a group of secondary school students whether uniforms are a good idea or not... and I was really surprised to see some answer Yes.. and one of their reasons was this... that students from low income family could have a standard garment to come to school without worrying that what they wear is not acceptable to their peers, also, when they come to school they shouldnt be thinking about choosing WHAT to wear everyday.
As for wearing uniforms sloppily and looking better.. honestly I thought that way too.. hurhuhur when I was 18... but having a 10 years additional experience, I am aghasted at how horrible it must have looked then. Heng all those who saw me in it also grow up liao
so we are all in the same conspiracy. -
As for wearing uniforms sloppily and looking better.. honestly I thought that way too.. hurhuhur when I was 18... but having a 10 years additional experience, I am aghasted at how horrible it must have looked then. Heng all those who saw me in it also grow up liao so we are all in the same conspiracy.
so r u one of those who feel sloppy dressing is a no no? i notice its normally the older ones who wil be aghasted by sloppy dressing...n some r sloppy during their younger days...onli when they come out to work do they change their mentality -
Well... I still dress sloppily... but I think as you come out and work... your tastes change.
You can look reasonably good when you are dressed sloppily if your attire is MEANT to be casual - jeans, cut off shorts, tshirts. I love t-shirts with shaggy edges and all that. And if I can get away with wearing beach sandals to work, I do that. (actually I just wear a tshirt and 3/4 pants with beach sandals to work hurhurhur)
But while I think that wearing ur uniform tucked out and all that is more COMFORTABLE (I won't say folding the waist a few times to make your skirt shorter is comfortable. I also won't say that letting your long hair down and feeling damn freakin hot under the collar is comfortable - you PRETEND it is comfortable, but you suffering cos you think it looks better)... to think that it LOOKS BETTER is not true.
It MAY look good on people who are ALREADY good looking, but then, good looking people look good even in leotards! And for the rest of us, who can't claim to be good looking, heheheheh .... I guess what I have learnt in those years to trust the sheer force of my personality to assert itself, and don't need to try TOO hard in other ways cos hor... ultimately, it's confidence that matters.
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yea...to add on to that...some people might wear clothes just to attract attention etc...more work for the discipline master/mistress to decide which types of clothes are suitable...maybe in uni they are more matured so they are given the benefit of wearing their own clothes?Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:actually it's interesting.. I once asked a group of secondary school students whether uniforms are a good idea or not... and I was really surprised to see some answer Yes.. and one of their reasons was this... that students from low income family could have a standard garment to come to school without worrying that what they wear is not acceptable to their peers, also, when they come to school they shouldnt be thinking about choosing WHAT to wear everyday.
As for wearing uniforms sloppily and looking better.. honestly I thought that way too.. hurhuhur when I was 18... but having a 10 years additional experience, I am aghasted at how horrible it must have looked then. Heng all those who saw me in it also grow up liao so we are all in the same conspiracy. -
So far, 11yrs (12 if u wana include this yr) of wearing uniform is not a chore. Can u imagine waking up every morning to think "what to wear today?" I think the school doesn't want us to give another excuse for being late.Originally posted by ruixiangz:Very well said...I think uniforms must be the lamest invention ever. Uniform serves no purposes.
Uniform can add on the safety. The Columbine High School massacre highlights a pretty simple thing. A normal outfit of t-shirt and jeans can allow u to store abt 5-6 guns. Outsiders with ill intentions can easily enter the school compound if there was no uniform. Afterall, he looks like everyone else.
Schools are supposed to keep us safe. We should allow schools to have such a loophole.
Then u can say, schs can hire guards and etc. But how safe will be? Look at the guards in ur sch and come to a conclusion. -
despondent, your (this) thread make it onto today edition of lian he zao bao, a chinese newspaper.
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Haha I don't want to sound like some comformist nerd but heres my input...
I feel ultimately right, all those rules, CCAs and theories you learn in school, 99% percent are useless when you grow up. However, what they train is the brain's ability to conceptionize difficult issues, discipline and awareness. Its the mental training and values that matter, especially finding direction in the chaotic adult world of no black and white.
Its like Wushu. I mean, today we all use M-16s and fire ICBMs with nukes. What can Wushu do??? The trick lies in the mental and psychological training. Wushu and many martial arts are supposed to instill discipline and mental focus in the mind, that could prove useful in stressful conditions, whether in Business or leadership.
Now, what about uniform? It can be argued we should have personal freedom, we can wear uniform in whatever way we want. But ultimately, the message is to instill a sense of discipline in certain issues that seem useless. Like if you represent an organisation, political or business wise, sometimes your boss gives you an instruction you may not understand, but to coordinate complex operations sometimes you just need to follow. I do not approve of following instructions blindly, but sometimes life is so chaotic you need to plunge thru the mess and take step by step. Life is sometimes liddat lo.
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juz wanna add sth else...
1st i wanna ask: wads the definition of the word "uniform"? if students dress anyway they like in uniform...wheres the uniformity? i am nt against students wanting to look cool...BUT nt in school uniform...when we face the society, its nt how we tink of ourselves tat matters, its how others tink of us tat matters...
i would like to bring out tis pt: pls do nt blame the school rules or the weather(being very hot). these r mere excuses...if there r students who can observe smart uniform dressing despite these factors, it onli shows the problem is nt wif the school or the weather but rather the personality n mindset of the students themselves...human beings are like tat...we blame evrything ard us except ourselves...weather lah, school lah, uniform itself lah...etc -
Rules are not meant to be followed. We are not machines. what is the fucking use when we become regurgitating machines. At the end of the day, your boss looks at whether you are innovative and productive not whether you are a mindless robot. Discipline is buitshit once you leave school n the army. Serious.Originally posted by cheem-.-:Haha I don't want to sound like some comformist nerd but heres my input...
I feel ultimately right, all those rules, CCAs and theories you learn in school, 99% percent are useless when you grow up. However, what they train is the brain's ability to conceptionize difficult issues, discipline and awareness. Its the mental training and values that matter, especially finding direction in the chaotic adult world of no black and white.
Its like Wushu. I mean, today we all use M-16s and fire ICBMs with nukes. What can Wushu do??? The trick lies in the mental and psychological training. Wushu and many martial arts are supposed to instill discipline and mental focus in the mind, that could prove useful in stressful conditions, whether in Business or leadership.
Now, what about uniform? It can be argued we should have personal freedom, we can wear uniform in whatever way we want. But ultimately, the message is to instill a sense of discipline in certain issues that seem useless. Like if you represent an organisation, political or business wise, sometimes your boss gives you an instruction you may not understand, but to coordinate complex operations sometimes you just need to follow. I do not approve of following instructions blindly, but sometimes life is so chaotic you need to plunge thru the mess and take step by step. Life is sometimes liddat lo.
Thats the real purpose of school and uniform and rules actually. Or so I believe.