Australia bars Singapore Airlines from flying trans-Pacific
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Why has our govt continue to take this lying down.
Maybe we could slap a ban on the import of dairy products from Australia! Only then will the Aussies know the meaning of protectionism! -
May i know whats their reason for doing so?
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They could at least allow us to fly to LA via Sydney instead of barring all SIA flights from trans-pacific routes.
Maybe Canberra is still feeling sore about Van Ngyuen, who knows. Anyway, there is already a similar thread here. -
Then what? import buffalo milk from india?Originally posted by spurs88:Why has our govt continue to take this lying down.
Maybe we could slap a ban on the import of dairy products from Australia! Only then will the Aussies know the meaning of protectionism!
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No...develop our education sector further with more tie-ups with reputable universities overseas so that Singaporeans and foreign students can get a degree in Singapore instead of going to Australia. Aggressively compete with Australian universities for students...that is a better approach.
If you want revenge against the Aussies, search all of them for drugs at Changi airport...maybe we might get to hang a few more of them
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We can search all we want, but may not find drugs on them at all. Do you suppose we trump up charges against them?Originally posted by oxford mushroom:No...develop our education sector further with more tie-ups with reputable universities overseas so that Singaporeans and foreign students can get a degree in Singapore instead of going to Australia. Aggressively compete with Australian universities for students...that is a better approach.
If you want revenge against the Aussies, search all of them for drugs at Changi airport...maybe we might get to hang a few more of them 
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You all can read about the issue here
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060221/1/3yu1p.html
I believeit has little to do with the drug case, but more to do with competition with their national carrier, Qantas.
But he said the government viewed the trans-Pacific route as a "key national asset" and would only negotiate access to the route "when it is in the national interest.
"In terms of the Singapore Airlines' request for access (to Australia-US routes), the government has decided not to grant them access at the present time," he said.
"If access is negotiated in the future, it will be limited and it will be phased."
Qantas, which earns as much as 20 percent of its profits from its Sydney-Los Angeles services, had argued that it would be disadvantaged if state-backed airlines such as Singapore Airlines were allowed to fly the route -
No, we don't have to do that. There are adequate supply form NZ and US!
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Qantas will always say loading not very good, only 60%... Isn't other rts the same?
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SIA is denied the lucrative trans-oceania route simply because Aussies fear SIA's pull factor will reduce profits for national flag carrier Quantas.
Truth be told, with the launch of the Boeing 777-ER and the upcoming dreamliner 787, boasting extra-long range capabilities, airlines may eventually bypass SG, reducing our international hub into little more than a spectator with the likely increase in direct flight destinations.
At this stage, one has to understand the position of the australian govt. Financially, the move sucks. -
would you allow quantas to fly to beijing via s'pore if you know what quantas will drive sia out of business? c'mon people...learn to use some common freakin sense.
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I think Singapore needs "open" allies to contribute something and enjoy the open route access from Singapore to the rest of Asia.
The problem with Quantas is it doesn't contribute, closes the AU-US route access and enjoy our open route Asia access.
They may call they're pro-Asia but obviously, it's not. -
the australians are probably angry at singapore for hanging the drug addict last year despite their prime minister begged singapore government not to do so
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this is strategic competition after all ... and they do have enough clout to level the playing field their way ...
you think the aussie goverment would be that stupid to just spread their legs wide open and let SIA in onto a lucrative cash cow like that ? ...
the airline industry is still very much a national industry around the world, even though many airlines are not privately held ... just look at the number of airlines bearing countries' names ... air-rights are still mostly negotiated on a goverment to goverment basis ... lots of airlines wouldn't have survive thus far with their current quality of service without some sort of goverment intervention, and monopoly or near exclusivity for certain lucrative route is just part of this strategy ...
I think the SIA not getting the permissions for the australia-US route is probably something to be expected long ago ... -
I wonder what are they going to discuss since they said there is something Singapore wants from Australia, and there are things Australia wants from Singapore
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=179499 -
Singapore ministers want to go australia for a round of golf and red wine.Originally posted by elindra:I wonder what are they going to discuss since they said there is something Singapore wants from Australia, and there are things Australia wants from Singapore
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=179499
Australian ministers want to come singapore for a round chilli crab and tiger beer -
Do you have any evidence to support this preposterous accusation?Originally posted by iveco:They could at least allow us to fly to LA via Sydney instead of barring all SIA flights from trans-pacific routes.
Maybe Canberra is still feeling sore about Van Ngyuen, who knows. Anyway, there is already a similar thread here.
Everyone has their reasons for doing something. Singapore too, forbids singaporeans to attent International Schools... Are they afraid that MOE's system is inferior and thus feeling sore about western curriculum?
So what if they decided to bar SIA? They have every right to do so!
Singapore also hanged Van... And she has every right to do so too. -
Why would the government ban Australian products over such small issues?Originally posted by spurs88:Why has our govt continue to take this lying down.
Maybe we could slap a ban on the import of dairy products from Australia! Only then will the Aussies know the meaning of protectionism!
Australia is a sovereign and independent country! She can choose what do or not to do in her territory. Singapore too, has her own way of handling things... eg, that Van guy who got hanged due to Singapore's Law.
So please don't be so xiu/hei or xiao qi. The world isn't as simple as you think it is. -
Sorry to disappoint you.Originally posted by vito_corleone:would you allow quantas to fly to beijing via s'pore if you know what quantas will drive sia out of business? c'mon people...learn to use some common freakin sense.
A few carriers actually do choose to by-pass Singapore now. Such example is KLM. They fly from Amsterdam to Jakarta. They used to make a stop-over at Changi. But now no longer, they do it in KLIA ( Kuala Lumpur ) instead. In fact, some European carriers are doing the same. I don't see why Quantas should stop in Singapore when KL is only 15 mins away... And i am sure that KLIA would be more than happy to recieve Quantas. . . -
we should not go an eye for an eye.
we are a small country with no resources. blowing things out of proportion will do us no good.
i support our govt's decision to keep cool like they always do. -
It depends which route you talking about. Australia to Europe route is just too long for a non-stop unless you are sitting in business or first class. As for KLM, I think they still fly to singapore.Originally posted by free thinker:Sorry to disappoint you.
A few carriers actually do choose to by-pass Singapore now. Such example is KLM. They fly from Amsterdam to Jakarta. They used to make a stop-over at Changi. But now no longer, they do it in KLIA ( Kuala Lumpur ) instead. In fact, some European carriers are doing the same. I don't see why Quantas should stop in Singapore when KL is only 15 mins away... And i am sure that KLIA would be more than happy to recieve Quantas. . . -
SP Ausnet owns their power plants in victoria. Its runned by SIngapore power.
lets raise our prices on their utilities so they know the meaning of pain. -
I agree with you that they still fly to Singapore. Amsterdam-Singapore, Singapore-Amsterdam. What i meant to say is that those flights from Amsterdam to Jakarta. They used to make a stop-over in Singapore. Now they do it in KLIA. So, Quantas can do the same for theirs if they want to make a stop-over in a SEA city before going to China. Especially if they do not feel comfortable about landing in Changi.Originally posted by Gazelle:It depends which route you talking about. Australia to Europe route is just too long for a non-stop unless you are sitting in business or first class. As for KLM, I think they still fly to singapore. -
Simple. We should bar Qantas from flying to Singapore. They will likely retaliate by barring SIA from flying to Australia.
Who has more to lose? Of course Australia. Thousands of Singaporeans go to Australia each year, for tourism, to study etc. We are bringing lots of foreign revenue into Australia. Stop all this, and the Aussies will feel the pinch. -
The reason for KLM to fly out of Sepang is due to its code sharing with MAS.Originally posted by free thinker:Sorry to disappoint you.
A few carriers actually do choose to by-pass Singapore now. Such example is KLM. They fly from Amsterdam to Jakarta. They used to make a stop-over at Changi. But now no longer, they do it in KLIA ( Kuala Lumpur ) instead. In fact, some European carriers are doing the same. I don't see why Quantas should stop in Singapore when KL is only 15 mins away... And i am sure that KLIA would be more than happy to recieve Quantas. . .