Malaysia will ask us to do otherwise.Originally posted by Salman:I agree, just because the bumis are racists in Msia does not mean we must be like them. Our Malays have proven that they can rise up against competition. Let us be a model for Msia.
Originally posted by Salman:How condescending and pompous can one be ?
I agree, just because the bumis are racists in Msia does not mean we must be like them. Our Malays have proven that they can rise up against competition. Let us be a model for Msia.
wow strong words.......Originally posted by Atobe:How condescending and pompous can one be ?
" OUR MALAYS HAVE PROVEN " ? - as if though they have to fulfill some rites of passage test to qualify them to be Singaporeans ?
Is this not a remark made out of a sense of superiority over another ethnic group ?
Is this not an INDIRECT FORM OF RACISM ?
By the statement made, are we implying that we should INDIRECTLY expect our Malay brothers and sisters to prove that they are not racist "IN PRACTICE" ?
Who are you to pass judgment over another Singaporean - who are you to be in any authoritative position to make such a remark towards whiichever ethnic group ?
Can we be a model for anybody, when we require the HDB Racial - Ethnic Quota system to be in place ?
Why do we need the GRC system ?
We cannot trust the instinct of the various ethnic groups to transcend their backgrounds and have NATIONALISTIC INTEREST in our mind - as SECOND NATURE or INSTINCTIVE ?
It has been more then FORTY YEARS since Singapore became INDEPENDENT, and the fact that we need the existence of such racial bias policy to be in place to check deviation - will certainly make it suspect if SINGAPORE can be a model as you have dream to be ?
We cannot escape from racism. We can, however, put in place legal recourse to allow minorities to find redress should they feel discriminated against. But if the entire govt policy is a celebration of racism and to claim superiority of one religion over another, be it catholism in the dark ages or islam in another age, then why do we still lie to ourselves and say that there is freedom of religion and that there is no racism?Originally posted by Atobe:How condescending and pompous can one be ?
" OUR MALAYS HAVE PROVEN " ? - as if though they have to fulfill some rites of passage test to qualify them to be Singaporeans ?
Is this not a remark made out of a sense of superiority over another ethnic group ?
Is this not an INDIRECT FORM OF RACISM ?
By the statement made, are we implying that we should INDIRECTLY expect our Malay brothers and sisters to prove that they are not racist "IN PRACTICE" ?
Who are you to pass judgment over another Singaporean - who are you to be in any authoritative position to make such a remark towards whiichever ethnic group ?
Can we be a model for anybody, when we require the HDB Racial - Ethnic Quota system to be in place ?
Why do we need the GRC system ?
We cannot trust the instinct of the various ethnic groups to transcend their backgrounds and have NATIONALISTIC INTEREST in our mind - as SECOND NATURE or INSTINCTIVE ?
It has been more then FORTY YEARS since Singapore became INDEPENDENT, and the fact that we need the existence of such racial bias policy to be in place to check deviation - will certainly make it suspect if SINGAPORE can be a model as you have dream to be ?
This is not an issue of “one race is superior over another”.Originally posted by SilverPal:We cannot escape from racism. We can, however, put in place legal recourse to allow minorities to find redress should they feel discriminated against. But if the entire govt policy is a celebration of racism and to claim superiority of one religion over another, be it catholism in the dark ages or islam in another age, then why do we still lie to ourselves and say that there is freedom of religion and that there is no racism?
Notice that you are not even addressing the main issue of this thread which is: The malaysian govt is adopting a bigoted view that one religion is superior over another. One race is superior over another.
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Like for example? Proof please.Originally posted by claudetnt:Salman:
"BTW, how is the HDB quota bias against any race when it applies to all races? "
However, its not applied Equally and Fairly to all the Races!
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puiOriginally posted by Salman:I think all people are equal. If Malays, Khmers or Vietnamese will pay the price and compete, they too can succeed.
The NEP policies in Msia is very racist.
Since that incident, I’ve seen that all properties advertised in the newspapers have such a small print – X percent discount for bumiputeras, regardless of the type of property being sold.Read more stories there or search bumis status
If this is a scheme to help the lower-income group, I wouldnÂ’t be so upset. The fact that this scheme is applied based on ethnicity is simply revolting. I have to toil and work hard to buy my own home. Why am I made to subsidise my bumi neighbour just because our skin colours are different?
Salman, I wouldn't know if this is qualified under racism. Even if it is, we cannot have any say on it because we are not their citizens. Malaysia shall rule their country as they deem fit. For now, we leave it as it is and what Malaysia call Malay rights.Originally posted by Salman:List of racial discriminations in Malaysia, practiced by government as well as government agencies:
This list is an open secret. Best verified by government itself because it got the statistics.
This list is not in the order of importance, that means the first one on the list is not the most important and the last one on the list does not mean least important.
This list is a common knowledge to a lot of Malaysians, especially those non-Malays (Chinese, Ibans, Kadazans, Orang Asli, Indians, etc) who are racially discriminated.
Figures in this list are estimates, and please take it as a guide only. Government of Malaysia has the most correct figures. Is government of Malaysia too ashamed to publish their racist acts by publishing racial statistics?
This list covers a period of about 48 years since independence (1957).
List of racial discriminations (Malaysia):
Out of all the 5 major banks, only one bank is multi-racial, the rest are controlled by Malays
99% of Petronas directors are Malays
3% of Petronas employees are Chinese
99% of 2000 Petronas gasoline stations are owned by Malays
100% all contractors working under Petronas projects must be bumis status
0% of non-Malays staffs are legally required in Malay companies. But there must be 30% Malays staffs in Chinese companies.
5% of all new intake for government police, nurses, army, is non-Malays.
2% is the present Chinese staff in Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF), drop from 40% in 1960.
2% is the percentage of non-Malays government servants in Putrajaya. But Malays make up 98%
7% is the percentage of Chinese government servants in the whole government (in 2004), drop from 30% in 1960
95% of government contracts are given to Malays
100% all business licensees are controlled by Malay government e.g. Taxi permits, Approved permits, etc
80% of the Chinese rice millers in Kedah had to be sold to Malay controlled Bernas in 1980s. Otherwise, life is make difficult for Chinese rice millers
100 big companies set up, owned and managed by Chinese Malaysians were taken over by government, and later managed by Malays since 1970s e.g. UTC, UMBC, MISC, etc
At least 10 Chinese owned bus companies (throughout Malaysia, throughout 40 years) had to be sold to MARA or other Malay transport companies due to rejection by Malay authority to Chinese application for bus routes and rejection for their application for new buses
2 Chinese taxi drivers were barred from driving in Johor Larkin bus station. There are about 30 taxi drivers and 3 are Chinese in October 2004. Spoiling taxi club properties was the reason given
0 non-Malays are allowed to get shop lots in the new Muar bus station (November 2004)
8000 billions RM is the total amount the government channeled to Malays pockets through ASB, ASN, MARA, privatisation of government agencies, Tabung Haji etc, through NEP over 34 years period
48 Chinese primary schools closed down since 1968 – 2000
144 Indian primary schools closed down since 1968 – 2000
2637 Malay primary schools built since 1968 – 2000
2.5% is government budget for Chinese primary schools. Indian schools got only 1%, Malay schools got 96.5%
While a Chinese parent with RM1000 salary (monthly) cannot get school-text-book-loan, a Malay parent with RM2000 salary is eligible
Originally posted by lionnoisy:They are true. But I just wonder why I never hear Malaysia reporting deficit in their financial report.
[b]discount only for bumiputeras
Read more stories there or search bumis status
Is it true that Bumi can enjoy lower interest rate when
borrowing housing loan or they can get a loan in a life time
to do big projects?If so,is it the main reasons of so many
uncompleted projects in MY.Just looking across the causeway,
there are many pilings near the shore and the abandoned LOT One
shopping centre.[/b]